ORWonddering what are the Campbell-KIDs going to do when OR if there information of A Heditary-AILMENT detected- traceable to a particular ethnic-grouup- JUST WONDERING. CUZ A T

J. Campbell's, a J.A.; J.B.; J.C.; J.R.; J.R. Sr.; J.S. And J.T. HELLO CAMPBELL FAMILY COUSINS; YA;LL LIVE NEAR ENOUGH TO LYNCHBURG VIRGINIA to be in the Lynchburg Va. phone book> I am a descendant of an Amherst county Campbell: I am in the process of working my Campbell family genealogy. I am hoping that there is connection to BOSS JOSH Campbell, who was my second great father< his Son <James Preston ,uncle jim Buck> was a 1/2 Brother to my Grt Grand Father Jesse Washington Campbell. If ya have a connection please Contact CZ A T _atpowelljr@aol.com_ (mailto:atpowelljr@aol.com) <I am inclined to wonder if this JR Campbelll is Uncle Jim Bucks Grand Son. SEE YA IN PRINT. CUZAT

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____________________________________ From: Atpowelljr@aol.com To: Atpowelljr@aol.com Sent: 4/8/2013 4:54:46 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Re: I BELIEVE IT TO BE A GOOD TIME FOR A REHASHING OF OUR OLD OPINION CUZ AT In a message dated 4/8/2013 4:38:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Atpowelljr@aol.com writes: COUSINS IT has bn several YEARS, THINK IT MIGHT be A good time to check on OUR IDEAS OF OLD & see what? OR IF we have FOUND WHAT WE WERE WERE SEEKING???? OH they were GREAT IDEAS AT THE TIME, WHAT HAVE WE Learned DIFFERENT than we THOUGHT <REMEMBER This was Before CAROLINE COUNTY> NOW DO WE KNOW THAT our IDEAS were that GREAT??? OK, LISTS, We thought that they were great IDEAS, AT THE TIME? LIST; Please give US a chance to relook<ANY COMENT> CUZ AT _Database for George Campbell Information_ (http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CAMPBELL/2005-12/1135724564) by _STEVEN.CAMPBELL@sbcglobal.net_ (mailto:STEVEN.CAMPBELL@sbcglobal.net) * _Re: [CAMPBELL] Database for George Campbell Information_ (http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CAMPBELL/2005-12/1135726699) by "Lynden Harris" < _bharris@ntelos.net_ (mailto:bharris@ntelos.net) > * _Re: [CAMPBELL] Database for George Campbell Information_ (http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CAMPBELL/2005-12/1135738025) by pam holeton < _pam_39_1960@yahoo.com_ (mailto:pam_39_1960@yahoo.com) > * _Re: [CAMPBELL] Database for George Campbell Information_ (http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CAMPBELL/2005-12/1135742396) by Jim Campbell < _jim-c@charter.net_ (mailto:jim-c@charter.net) > * _Re: [CAMPBELL] Database for George Campbell Information_ (http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CAMPBELL/2005-12/1135747411) by "Marvin" < _marv3@redrivernet.com_ (mailto:marv3@redrivernet.com) > * _Database for George Campbell Information_ (http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CAMPBELL/2005-12/1135742161) by _STEVEN.CAMPBELL@sbcglobal.net_ (mailto:STEVEN.CAMPBELL@sbcglobal.net) * _Re: [CAMPBELL] Database for George Campbell Information[PLEASE READ A T POWELL_ (http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CAMPBELL/2005-12/1135763968) by _Atpowelljr@aol.com_ (mailto:Atpowelljr@aol.com) * _Re: [CAMPBELL] Database for George Campbell Information[PLEASE READ A T POWELL_ (http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CAMPBELL/2005-12/1135765017) by "Lynden Harris" < _bharris@ntelos.net_ (mailto:bharris@ntelos.net) > * _RE: [CAMPBELL] Database for George Campbell Information[PLEASE READ A T POWELL_ (http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CAMPBELL/2005-12/1135765901) by "Margie Campbell" < _margecam@comcast.net_ (mailto:margecam@comcast.net) > * _George Campbell - 1800 Census for USA_ (http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CAMPBELL/2005-12/1135766269) by "Margie Campbell" < _margecam@comcast.net_ (mailto:margecam@comcast.net) > * _Re: [CAMPBELL] Database for George Campbell Information[PLEASE READ A T POWELL_ (http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CAMPBELL/2005-12/1135768991) by _Atpowelljr@aol.com_ (mailto:Atpowelljr@aol.com) * _Re: [CAMPBELL] Database for George Campbell Information[PLEASE READ A T POWELL_ (http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CAMPBELL/2005-12/1135770197) by "Lynden Harris" < _bharris@ntelos.net_ (mailto:bharris@ntelos.net) >

COUSINS IT has bn several YEARS, THINK IT MIGHT be A good time to check on OUR IDEAS OF OLD & see what? OR IF we have FOUND H E WERE SEEKING???? OH they were GREAT IDEAS AT THE TIME, WHAT HAVE WE Learned DIFFERENT than we THOUGHT <REMEMBER This was Before CAROLINE COUNTY> NOW DO WE KNOW THAT our IDEAS were that GREAT??? OK, LISTS, We thought that they were great IDEAS, AT THE TIME? LIST; Please give US a chance to relook<ANY COMENT> CUZ AT _Database for George Campbell Information_ (http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CAMPBELL/2005-12/1135724564) by _STEVEN.CAMPBELL@sbcglobal.net_ (mailto:STEVEN.CAMPBELL@sbcglobal.net) * _Re: [CAMPBELL] Database for George Campbell Information_ (http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CAMPBELL/2005-12/1135726699) by "Lynden Harris" < _bharris@ntelos.net_ (mailto:bharris@ntelos.net) > * _Re: [CAMPBELL] Database for George Campbell Information_ (http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CAMPBELL/2005-12/1135738025) by pam holeton < _pam_39_1960@yahoo.com_ (mailto:pam_39_1960@yahoo.com) > * _Re: [CAMPBELL] Database for George Campbell Information_ (http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CAMPBELL/2005-12/1135742396) by Jim Campbell < _jim-c@charter.net_ (mailto:jim-c@charter.net) > * _Re: [CAMPBELL] Database for George Campbell Information_ (http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CAMPBELL/2005-12/1135747411) by "Marvin" < _marv3@redrivernet.com_ (mailto:marv3@redrivernet.com) > * _Database for George Campbell Information_ (http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CAMPBELL/2005-12/1135742161) by _STEVEN.CAMPBELL@sbcglobal.net_ (mailto:STEVEN.CAMPBELL@sbcglobal.net) * _Re: [CAMPBELL] Database for George Campbell Information[PLEASE READ A T POWELL_ (http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CAMPBELL/2005-12/1135763968) by _Atpowelljr@aol.com_ (mailto:Atpowelljr@aol.com) * _Re: [CAMPBELL] Database for George Campbell Information[PLEASE READ A T POWELL_ (http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CAMPBELL/2005-12/1135765017) by "Lynden Harris" < _bharris@ntelos.net_ (mailto:bharris@ntelos.net) > * _RE: [CAMPBELL] Database for George Campbell Information[PLEASE READ A T POWELL_ (http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CAMPBELL/2005-12/1135765901) by "Margie Campbell" < _margecam@comcast.net_ (mailto:margecam@comcast.net) > * _George Campbell - 1800 Census for USA_ (http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CAMPBELL/2005-12/1135766269) by "Margie Campbell" < _margecam@comcast.net_ (mailto:margecam@comcast.net) > * _Re: [CAMPBELL] Database for George Campbell Information[PLEASE READ A T POWELL_ (http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CAMPBELL/2005-12/1135768991) by _Atpowelljr@aol.com_ (mailto:Atpowelljr@aol.com) * _Re: [CAMPBELL] Database for George Campbell Information[PLEASE READ A T POWELL_ (http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CAMPBELL/2005-12/1135770197) by "Lynden Harris" < _bharris@ntelos.net_ (mailto:bharris@ntelos.net) >

HELLO CUSINS, This is what I am sure is the MAIN Reason for the distrust of The family stories in the local HERITAGE BOOKS THERE is nothing wrong with the Family Story, IT IS that we see different members of the families VERISON THERE OF CUZ AT CUZ AT, You are SO RIGHT, when it comes to cousins having different information about each other's families. 2nd, 3rd, 4th cousins, etc. all could have different information about the families because birth and death information was usually only written down ONCE (either mama's or grandma's bible) so word of mouth information back during those times usually changed in variation, as often as it was told. Tony Myers Lakeland, Florida 813-244-2710

_Find A Grave Search Results_ (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GScid=2144886) PLEASE LEFT CLICK> MAY BE NO KIN BUT THEY ARE Campbell's CUZ AT

What I am specifically referring to is the given name of our old George Campbells wife – that we call Catherine, Caty, and Cathy. CUZ BH, GRANNYS Fist Name didn't Seem to be the PROBLEM, The Fact that GRANNYY has been in the Family over 200 years with out a MAIDEN NAME is what I thought wass THE PROBLEM???? CATTY, CATHY, CATHERINE, GRANNY BUUT WHO WS Grany Before she became OUR OLE GEORGE CAMPBELL, LIFE MATE??? CUZ AT

CLL, You mention a McAuley (sp) in reference to a Campbell. My great great great grandfather Silas Campbell married a Maria Mcauley in Ontario Canada. Many of the Mcauley siblings moved to Michigan around 1840ish. Any of this sound familiar to you? Looking for a possible connection. Thanks Jim Campbell

PLEASE TAKE A GOOD LOOK SEE IF YOU HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN SOME OF THE NICK NAMES. that were used in OUR Child hood????? HOW true, & that could be a big reason some of them HERITAGE BOOK STORIES do not JIVE . THE below poster is A Stinnett Family Cousin, & a VERY through Researcher. Many of the posters in the HERITAGE BOOKS, Have lived with those OLD Familly Stories for years. CUZ AT CUZ AT, You are SO RIGHT, when it comes to cousins having different information about each other's families. 2nd, 3rd, 4th cousins, etc. all could have different information about the families because birth and death information was usually only written down ONCE (either mama's or grandma's bible) so word of mouth information back during those times usually changed in variation, as often as it was told. As you said, there were so many children with such similar names; brothers and sisters almost always had children named after either mom, dad, grandma, grandpa or some variation thereof. As far as Census Records, it is extremely hard to even TRUST those records. I have found throughout the last 25 years that because people themselves, tend to use variations on their own names through the years; Census records list these variations and then these other family members (so called genealogists) want to take these names as 'Gospel' truth. How many times has Lizzie been shown on a Census record but was truly born Elizabeth, or somewhere during her life she went by Beth, Bettie, Betty or Bessie and one or more of these names show up on 2 or 3 different Census Records. So then people start showing multiple wives for the same husband. The same with Jon, John, Jonathon, and Johnathon; as well as so many other names that have common variations with multiple different spellings. Over the course of 3, 4, or 5 Census counting's people see all these 'different' names and think this family has 15 or 20 different children, or maybe 2, 3 or 4 different spouses and then when someone like me comes along and tries to explain about all these 'variations' because I am one of these researcher's that always looks for these variations in families over the course of 30, 40 or 50 years before I set try to set them in 'stone'; then the other person want's to call ME the lunatic and tell me I'm wrong with my information and that THEY have the right information in their family tree. They couldn't possibly believe that a "Polly Mason" (as an example) could really be Sarah Mason in true life when a Census record has her listed as "Polly Mason". But they didn't bother to take into account part of another family story that talks about her being "Sallie" and another record having her listed as "Sara". They also don't want to realize that Polly and Molly were used as common nicknames for several different common women's names; not just Sarah. You can't just look at 1 or 2 Census records for a family and get a true reflection of he family. Children use different names throughout their lives. Census records contain more nicknames than true given names, than any other genealogical record out there. Whoever is filling out the form at the time, will usually write in whatever the child is currently being called at that particular time in their life. So, don't go 'swearing' by your records unless you know for a fact that they CAN and ARE written in STONE. I have found so many State Records these days, that even list incorrect information; and worse yet, is a lot of the information indexed on Ancestry.com. Tony Myers Lakeland, Florida 813.244.2710 tonymyers.ancestry@gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: stinnett-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 3:00 AM To: stinnett@rootsweb.com Subject: STINNETT Digest, Vol 8, Issue 30 Today's Topics: 1. JUST BECAUS IT DOES NOT MATCH YOURS IS NO SIGHN TAT IT IS WRONG. CUZ AT (Atpowelljr@aol.com)

Amen! I don't know how many times I've fought the "Bales McCauley Campbell" vs "Bales McColley Campbell" vs "Matthew Bales Campbell" vs the Bales McColly Campbell" vs the "BM Campbell" fight. It's all the same man...he just justed used different variants of his name at different times in his life. And as for stories, a lot of things "change" in 100 years (heck, some stories change minute to minute). Thanks Cousin! CLL ---- Atpowelljr@aol.com wrote: > In answer to soo much disbelief. We have so mamy cusins that are so ready > to drive personal stories in the ground, just because the personal stories > do not match what you/we have?? When many of those posters of the persona > l stories in print< <???> the poaters of your dobted stories have lived > with the information that you so quickly rjected for a life time< from > grannys bible & Ole trunk . Cousins when are you & I going to wake up to the FACT > THAT because every thing that we see is wrong just because it des not > match what we have, SOME of it YES but for sre not AL of what the other poster > presented is incorret. Attention cousins,just lets look at ourrecord alngg > with so much that we disbelieve> our Campbell family researchers have had > <Granny CATTY, around sicce 1723 & have not learned her MaIden Name<???> > REALY NOW, that is no reason that many of thee Heriatage book posters are > incorrect. i often wonder when our crrent reseachers will ever understand that > just beause yor & my information does not match gives a gaurente that > either of us has to be wrong<???> > > Just becausetwo posters have different names does not make either wrong. > for instanse< Head of families in Amherst , County Va> > Head oF Famiies-VIRGINIA, 1783- Amherst County, VA<There are TWO Duncan > Campbell's & three John Campbell"s, What I believe is this; our current > researchers are TOO quck to shoot the mesenger; Like me, iDESCEND From one John > Campbel from the late 1700TH Centry, ONE John Campbell in the mid 1800th > Centry & have a first cousin John Campbell from the last 1/2 of the 20TH > CENTRY. > I do not believe for a minute that evety one elae is wrong just because > theier posting does match the other person. > > EXAMPLE, I went to a Campbell family REUNION a few years back, I stared to > ask questions about family, I got to Grand Parents, that is exalty what i > got< GRANNY & Grand PA, & THIS ANSWER FROM Campbell cousins my age, NO NOT > Campbell_kids but JUST THE SAME THEY WERE Campbell's. TRUE, Eveery thing > that does not match is not wrong< just because it does not match what > we/you have. > > Cousins think, sure we are related to <A George Campbell, but is that THE > GEORGE Campbell that is in question?; > Just what do you USE TO say that ttisi certian george campbel that you > read abot in the heriatge book has to be wrong, ; We have, g g g g g,g &g > Grand pa George <g,g, g,g,g,Grand pa & g. g. g. g. Grand pa Campbells, & many > Cousin George Campbell's & you dIS BELIEVE EVERY THING THAT OUR COUSINS > HAVE POSTED IN THE Heritage books. > MY quetion, why do you shoot the mesenger, WHN WE/YOU KOW THAT THERE AE SO > MANY OF THE SAME FIRST & LAST nammes that are the same????. i HAVE THE > OFIICAL head of house hold INAmherst ounty VA IN 1783 AND ALSO THE Amhesrt > County CENSUS FOR 1850 & BOTH SHW MANY OF THE LOCAL FAMILESS WITH THE SAME > FIRST & LAST NAMES & i FIND CURRENT RESEARCHERS TELLING Posters that theier > strries are wrong because you have one thing posted & their heritage book > story does not match what you have<????> CUZ AT > <atpowelljr@aol>com> > _______________________________________ > > Remember to search the archives use this address > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=CAMPBELL > > Browse the archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/CAMPBELL/ > > Contact the List Manager > mailto:campbell-admin@rootsweb.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAMPBELL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In answer to soo much disbelief. We have so mamy cusins that are so ready to drive personal stories in the ground, just because the personal stories do not match what you/we have?? When many of those posters of the persona l stories in print< <???> the poaters of your dobted stories have lived with the information that you so quickly rjected for a life time< from grannys bible & Ole trunk . Cousins when are you & I going to wake up to the FACT THAT because every thing that we see is wrong just because it des not match what we have, SOME of it YES but for sre not AL of what the other poster presented is incorret. Attention cousins,just lets look at ourrecord alngg with so much that we disbelieve> our Campbell family researchers have had <Granny CATTY, around sicce 1723 & have not learned her MaIden Name<???> REALY NOW, that is no reason that many of thee Heriatage book posters are incorrect. i often wonder when our crrent reseachers will ever understand that just beause yor & my information does not match gives a gaurente that either of us has to be wrong<???> Just becausetwo posters have different names does not make either wrong. for instanse< Head of families in Amherst , County Va> Head oF Famiies-VIRGINIA, 1783- Amherst County, VA<There are TWO Duncan Campbell's & three John Campbell"s, What I believe is this; our current researchers are TOO quck to shoot the mesenger; Like me, iDESCEND From one John Campbel from the late 1700TH Centry, ONE John Campbell in the mid 1800th Centry & have a first cousin John Campbell from the last 1/2 of the 20TH CENTRY. I do not believe for a minute that evety one elae is wrong just because theier posting does match the other person. EXAMPLE, I went to a Campbell family REUNION a few years back, I stared to ask questions about family, I got to Grand Parents, that is exalty what i got< GRANNY & Grand PA, & THIS ANSWER FROM Campbell cousins my age, NO NOT Campbell_kids but JUST THE SAME THEY WERE Campbell's. TRUE, Eveery thing that does not match is not wrong< just because it does not match what we/you have. Cousins think, sure we are related to <A George Campbell, but is that THE GEORGE Campbell that is in question?; Just what do you USE TO say that ttisi certian george campbel that you read abot in the heriatge book has to be wrong, ; We have, g g g g g,g &g Grand pa George <g,g, g,g,g,Grand pa & g. g. g. g. Grand pa Campbells, & many Cousin George Campbell's & you dIS BELIEVE EVERY THING THAT OUR COUSINS HAVE POSTED IN THE Heritage books. MY quetion, why do you shoot the mesenger, WHN WE/YOU KOW THAT THERE AE SO MANY OF THE SAME FIRST & LAST nammes that are the same????. i HAVE THE OFIICAL head of house hold INAmherst ounty VA IN 1783 AND ALSO THE Amhesrt County CENSUS FOR 1850 & BOTH SHW MANY OF THE LOCAL FAMILESS WITH THE SAME FIRST & LAST NAMES & i FIND CURRENT RESEARCHERS TELLING Posters that theier strries are wrong because you have one thing posted & their heritage book story does not match what you have<????> CUZ AT <atpowelljr@aol>com>

I've "rescued" an old photograph of Jonathan M. MCKAY which was taken at the G. H. Thornbrue Studio in Adel, Iowa. The photograph appears to have been taken in the 1880's with Jonathan's birthdate indicated as "born Aug 11 1858" on the back of the photograph. Based on limited research I was able to locate the following information regarding Jonathan and his family: Jonathan M. MCKAY was b. 1859 in Des Moines, IA to parents Donald MCKAY (b. 1831 in Scotland) and Catharine RAMAGE (b. 18 Jan 1834 in Franklin, PA). Census records provide the following details: 1860 census of Des Moines Township, IA: Jonathan RAMAGE, age 50, a Farmer, born PA Eliza RAMAGE, age 50, born PA Marice RAMAGE, age 24, a Farmer, born PA Benjamin F. RAMAGE, age 22, a Farmer, born PA James RAMAGE, age 20, born PA Mary RAMAGE, age 18, born PA Jonathan RAMAGE, age 16, born PA Albert RAMAGE, age 12, born PA Samuel RAMAGE, age 9, born PA Donald MCKAY, age 29, a Brick Mason, age Scotland Catharine MCKAY, age 26, born PA Jonathan M. MCKAY, age 1, born IA 1870 census of IA: Donald MCKAY, age 40, a Stone Mason, age Scotland Catharine MCKAY, wife, age 36, Keeping House, born PA Jonathan MCKAY, son, age 12, at Home, born IA Frank D. MCKAY, son, age 10, born IA Madaline MCKAY, dau, age 8, born IA Ronald MCKAY, son, age 7 months, born IA 1880 census of Adel, IA: Donald MCKAY, age 51, a Butcher, born Scotland, parents born Scotland Kate MCKAY, wife, age 46, Keeping House, born PA, parents born PA John MCKAY, son, age 21, at Home, born IA Frank MCKAY, son, age 19, Works on Farm, born IA Maddie MCKAY, dau, age 17, at Home, born IA Renny MCKAY, son, age 10, at Home, born IA 1900 census of Adel Township, IA: John M. MCKAY, age 42, born Aug 1857, married 8 years, born IA, parents born Scotland/PA, a Janitor Eugenie MCKAY, wife, age 38, born Jun 1861, married 8 years, 5 children/4 living, born IA, parents born IN/MO Miles L. CAMPBELL, son, age 11, born Aug 1883, born IA, parents born IN/IA, at School Roscoe D. CAMPBELL, son, age 10, born Jul 1889, born IA, parents born IN/IA, at School Chester B. MCKAY, son, age 6, born Aug 1893, born IA, at School Eva E. MCKAY, dau, age 5, born May 1894, born IA 1910 census of Twin Lakes Township, IA: John MCKAY, age 51, married 18 years, born IA, parents born Scotland/PA, a Laborer Emma MCKAY, wife, age 48, married 18 years, 5 children/4 living, born IA, parents born IN Chester MCKAY, son, age 17, born IA, a Lather Eva MCKAY, dau, age 15, born IA, a Hair Dresser I am hoping to locate someone from this MCKAY Family so that the photograph can be returned to its rightful place, with family. If you are a member of this family, or you know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley

Hi A.T., My reply had nothing to do with Campbells, it was another family name. I love to read heritage books and have purchased quite a few of them myself. No doubt there are some truths in them BUT I do not simply believe everything that I read that has been written by a person. Over the years I have had the pleasure to correspond with many of these submitters and I have developed my own sense of trust for what has been written in these books. I trust the work of some more than others and I think most people feel the same! As far as naming pattern, yes it is worthy of some consideration but it is not a definite. You will find many families that do not have a son named for the father or grandfather! Ancestry, LDS, and heritage books can provide many clues, some truths, and alot of items that require further research. Many times I look through all of these when looking for a person but, speaking for myself, I very seldom believe everything I read in them! Look how many times we've taken some of these trees and family histories and found them to be accurate in some areas and totally "guess work" in the older generations. Good example is our old George Campbell and Moses Campbell. Many trees and histories about them and many have been proven wrong by the Campbell Kids. How many times did you and others claim that there could be no relationship between some of these mountain Campbells due to a "caste" system and that some members of a family were farmers and others court clerks, judges, military men, etc. DNA has shown us that there was a relationship between many of these families. That in itself is a good example of how research/technology has changed our thinking about these families. Yet, we still don't have the answers to many of our questions!! Long story short, these heritage books are a great read, have some truth and alas, some questionable data. The people submitting these articles have done the best they can with the information they have at the time. We all know that many theories have been debunked by research of the Campbell Kids. Take care, Sylvia

In a message dated 3/25/2013 4:41:39 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Atpowelljr@aol.com writes: My example is a family history included in the Amherst and Nelson heritage books citing 50 years of research on the family they submitted. After reading it I knew that it contained errors and so many omissions! But, I contacted the lady and we exchanged information and I thought I'd found a cousin that I shared so much in common with. Well, that nice lady took my information, made a new website and claimed credit for everything she posted! I started getting notes from friends about this new site that sure looked like the work I'd done for years so I visited the site and yes, there it was! I talked with the lady and you know she never admitted that it was my research! Now, I try not to associate my name with that website cause she has added so much speculation and hunches to it that I sure don't want to claim it. ATTENTION PEADE; LOOK closely at this BIT, to an extent CORRECT? THERE wee, 12 Campbell articall's in the first Amherst Heritage BOOK, 13 in the second Amherst Book, 24 Campbell Articals in the Nelson Book, 6 Campbell Articals in the Rockbridge Boo, & 3 in the APPOMATTOX County Heriatage BOOK, AND I VENTUER to believe the most of what is writen in those CAMPBELL FAMILY Articials, Because I have not forgoten the CHILD NAME PRACTICE, I wrote 2 of the articals in The first ahrst Book, ^ tat are in the 2nd book, Onein nelson county 7 onein the appomattoX heritage BOOKS, One thing If not every time I likr to Remember to insert this: <ACORDNG TO MY INFORMATION> COUSINS, PLEEASE, with as many Campbell's as therre are with the SAME first & Last name, <???> one is going to say that THIS OR THAT IS WRONG<???> COUSINS, Sme of tose Articals were Writen from the top of the Writers Head, Some frm Grannys Trunk & SOME of them throuughly RESEARCHED. My late Mother Had three brothes; AND Neither of them Had A Cambel Family Name. MY parents Had 11 Children 24 MALE Grand Childrren With NO ONE Named after MY FaTHER, THE ARTICALS in the heritage books are MORE often than not CORRECT it is that TWO different groups of people are being Discussed. WHO Have THE same first & LAST NAMES> ANY time that I have foundsome thng in tha amherst &Nelson county va Heritage Books i contact <CUZ Marlene Fitsgerald in Amhert Court House 7 get the adress of the POSTER & Try to Contact the POSTER, OH YEA <ASK & ANSWER QUESTIONS SOME ONE KNOWS> AH HA, the Poster Could very well be A Cousin that ya been looking for?/ Example # ONE: George Campbell # ONE, To George Campbell # 2 AKA George Campbell, Jr. HE Marries Another George campbell's Daughter; NOW there ae three George campbell's in the family; Son # one is Named afer Daddys Daddy Georgee Cmpbell, Son # 2 named after Mamas Daddy, SON # three named After DADY The ae now 6 George Campbells in The FAmily. NOW say that this Second george campbell raises 6 Boys &6 GIrls, and they weent out 7 raised thee same # of Children as so often named their falies with many of the SAME NAMESS<???> NOW we read these stories in the Heritage BOOKS, RIGHT of we see so many Campbell's with he SAME NMES, BUT SAME First & Last Names<???>, WE, shout WRONG< WRONG< WRONG< HOLD IT: SURE the Names & Dates do not MATCH, IT IS OUR MISS CALAULATION, The problem is that we are thinking about one family & that Person is describeing their family which is near like the family that we are thinking ABOUT AND NOW what about that bit aboout SHOOTING the Mesenger??? WE are talking about People wth the same FIRST & LAST Names, BUT are they the same people???? UH HUH, but so Often NOT CUZ AT

My example is a family history included in the Amherst and Nelson heritage books citing 50 years of research on the family they submitted. After reading it I knew that it contained errors and so many omissions! But, I contacted the lady and we exchanged information and I thought I'd found a cousin that I shared so much in common with. Well, that nice lady took my information, made a new website and claimed credit for everything she posted! I started getting notes from friends about this new site that sure looked like the work I'd done for years so I visited the site and yes, there it was! I talked with the lady and you know she never admitted that it was my research! Now, I try not to associate my name with that website cause she has added so much speculation and hunches to it that I sure don't want to claim it. ATTENTION PEADE; LOOK closely at this BIT, to an extent CORRECT? THERE wee, 12 Campbell articall's in the first Amherst Heritage BOOK, 13 in the second Amherst Book, 24 Campbell Articals in the Nelson Book, 6 Campbell Articals in the Rockbridge Boo, & 3 in the APPOMATTOX County Heriatage BOOK, AND I VENTUER to believe the most of what is writen in those CAMPBELL FAMILY Articials, Because I have not forgoten the CHILD NAME PRACTICE, I wrote 2 of the articals in The first ahrst Book, ^ tat are in the 2nd book, Onein nelson county 7 onein the appomattoX heritage BOOKS, One thing If not every time I likr to Remember to insert this: <ACORDNG TO MY INFORMATION> COUSINS, PLEEASE, with as many Campbell's as therre are with the SAME first & Last name, <???> one is going to say that THIS OR THAT IS WRONG<???> COUSINS, Sme of tose Articals were Writen from the top of the Writers Head, Some frm Grannys Trunk & SOME of them throuughly RESEARCHED. My late Mother Had three brothes; AND Neither of them Had A Cambel Family Name. MY parents Had 11 Children 24 MALE Grand Childrren With NO ONE Named after MY FaTHER, THE ARTICALS in the heritage books are MORE often than not CORRECT it is that TWO different groups of people are being Discussed. WHO Have THE same first & LAST NAMES> ANY time that I have foundsome thng in tha amherst &Nelson county va Heritage Books i contact <CUZ Marlene Fitsgerald in Amhert Court House 7 get the adress of the POSTER & Try to Contact the POSTER, OH YEA <ASK & ANSWER QUESTIONS SOME ONE KNOWS> AH HA, the Poster Could very well be A Cousin that ya been looking for?/ Example # ONE: George Campbell # ONE, To George Campbell # 2 AKA George Campbell, Jr. HE Marries Another George campbell's Daughter; NOW there ae three George campbell's in the family; Son # one is Named afer Daddys Daddy Georgee Cmpbell, Son # 2 named after Mamas Daddy, SON # three named After DADY The ae now 6 George Campbells in The FAmily. NOW say that this Second george campbell raises 6 Boys &6 GIrls, and they weent out 7 raised thee same # of Children as so often named their falies with many of the SAME NAMESS<???> NOW we read these stories in the Heritage BOOKS, RIGHT of we see so many Campbell's with he SAME NMES, BUT SAME First & Last Names<???>, WE, shout WRONG< WRONG< WRONG< HOLD IT: SURE the Names & Dates do not MATCH, IT IS OUR MISS CALAULATION, The problem is that we are thinking about one family & that Person is describeing their family which is near like the family that we are thinking ABOUT AND NOW what about that bit aboout SHOOTING the Mesenger??? WE are talking about People wth the same FIRST & LAST Names, BUT are they the same people???? UH HUH, but so Often NOT CUZ AT

OOPS! I used the wrong email to send this...so it may post twice. Marge -----Original Message----- From: Marge_Lmcam [mailto:lmcam@lmcam1.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 12:55 PM To: 'campbell@rootsweb.com' Subject: Early formation in America...Virginia - Thanks A T A pretty good resource on immigration to America is Teppers, New World Immigrants, Vol I & Vol II. I use it a lot. I have also uploaded some early North America Maps from old history books my grandpa gave to my mom (they were his school books). Here is a link to the maps I have (there are probably better copies online at the VA Archives): http://tinyurl.com/EarlyVA-Maps Early VA maps I also have included information from these old history books (well out of print)...about the formation of the United States of America. Marge --

A pretty good resource on immigration to America is Teppers, New World Immigrants, Vol I & Vol II. I use it a lot. I have also uploaded some early North America Maps from old history books my grandpa gave to my mom (they were his school books). Here is a link to the maps I have (there are probably better copies online at the VA Archives): http://tinyurl.com/EarlyVA-Maps Early VA maps I also have included information from these old history books (well out of print)...about the formation of the United States of America. Marge --

_Formation of Virginia Counties_ (http://www.retracing-our-family-legacy.com/reference_formation_va_co.html) PLEASE LEFT CLICK I Know that this is a BIT LONG, BUT, the Cretion of THE SHIRES: VIRGINIA CREATED_________Kentucky County: Thats riight; NOW Please read just what VIRGINIA was in the beginning? I see wondring about wherepeople landed in AMERICA? & what happened to them, Well CUZ, if one laanded in the port of New York Or Tappahanck Va, & traveled to to days OHIO, They before the Late 1700's they were relocating in the Commonwealth OF VIRGINIA, & if the descenants of those who arived while the are of todays; Ky, Ohio, Ind, Ill, Mich & WISC was still in the JURISDICTION OF VIRGINIA The recrd of their Ancestors will be found in the records of the jurisdiction in VIRGGIINIA that was in CHARGE of the OHIO VALLEY AREA, When their Ancestors Arived there, What ever state it might be in NOW, LIKE IT OR NOT, From Va to the MISS. River was in Va untill late 1700'S THAT is why I have found tis information so important & helpful in MY Genealogical RESEARCH. Atlantic Crossings Were Dangerous In the Early Years arrowing were the experiences of people who risked their lives and property to cross the Atlantic Ocean from Europe to America during the Sixteenth to Eighteenth Centuries. The season for passage began in early May and ended in late October with each westerly voyage from England requiring at least seven to eight weeks with good tail winds, and often ten to twelve weeks if the winds were not favorable. A typical journey for refugees fleeing religious persecution in Europe or indentured servants contracting years of labor for the cost of passage would often begin in Rotterdam or Amsterdam and then proceed to England for supplies PLEASE TRY IT CUZ AT