> > > Have searched for 15 years about the ancestry of one John J Campbell of > Darlington, SC. He was born in SC according to all records in which I > find > him, 1845/9. His father was from NC or Ireland depending on census > records. > He lived his entire live in Darlington, except for a trip to VA to pick up > his son upon his discharge fom the Coastal Artillery Unit of the US Army > in > 1910. Maybe this was why he was not on the 1910 census. He died in > Darlington on 20 Jun 1911 from injuries received in a fall from a ladder > while lighting a lamp over the dining room table. He married Cynthia Jane > Elmore. The first listing of John Campbell was when Cynthia joined the > Wesley Chapel Methodist Church in 1876 as Cynthia Campbell. His death > date > is confirmed in a Bible Record of the William Robert Hudson Bible, who > married Cynthia's sister Mary Elis Elmore. These two families were close. > However, all inquiries of this family have led to a ZERO. > No Deeds > No Tax Lists > Not in 1850, 1860 or 1870 census > Nothing on him listed in the Darlington Co Historical Society > No obit in Darlington > No Nothing. > > Does anyone have any information on my gggrandfather? Does anyone have > any > other suggestions? > > Cal Campbell

I find two John Campbell's in Frederick county MD in 1790... This census was subscribed on 20th day of Apr 1791. I believe this is when it was transcribed by the taker (it's in alphabetical order, so neighbors can't be determined). Headings are: Name of Head of Family - Free White Males of 16 and upwards, including head of family - Free white males under 16 years - Free white females, including head of family - 0ther/all free persons - slaves Page 157 John Campbell 4-2-7-0-4 (note: There were two men named Craybill on this page, one was a John) Page 165 Amm Campbell 1-1-2-0-0 Abraham Capell 1-1-2-0-0 (included the above with thought Amm may be an Ambrose.. May be Amn or Anm or Ann) Page 166 John Campbell 1-0-1-0-0 Martha Campbell 1-2-3-0-0 NOTE: There are quite a few Johns in 1790 MD Marriages of John Campbells in Frederick co MD 1655-1850 Name Gender Marriage Date Spouse County John Campbell Male 16 Mar 1784 Mary Carter Frederick John Campbell Male 23 Dec 1796 Elizabeth Hobbs Frederick John Campbell Male 23 Dec 1802 Barbara Liday Frederick John Campbell Male 06 Oct 1812 Polly Helterbridle Frederick John Campbell Male 04 Jan 1828 Susan Rusk Frederick John Campbell Male 29 Oct 1832 Ann Holmes Frederick John B. H. Campbell Male 19 Jun 1845 Ann U. Richardson Frederick John, Jr. Campbell Male 09 Apr 1796 Ann Cumming Frederick ************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Database: Maryland Marriages, 1667-1899 January 24, 2006 Name Spouse Marriage Date County State JOHN B. H. CAMPBELL ANN U. RICHARDSON 19 Jun 1845 Frederick MD JOHN CAMPBELL POLLY HELTERBRIDLE 06 Oct 1812 Frederick MD JOHN CAMPBELL SUSAN RUSK 04 Jan 1828 Frederick MD JOHN CAMPBELL ANN HOLMES 29 Oct 1832 Frederick MD JOHN CAMPBELL MARY CARTER 16 Mar 1784 Frederick MD JOHN CAMPBELL ELIZABETH HOBBS 23 Dec 1796 Frederick MD JOHN CAMPBELL BARBARA LIDAY 23 Dec 1802 Frederick MD JOHN Jr. CAMPBELL ANN CUMMING 09 Apr 1796 Frederick MD Source Information: Dodd, Jordan, Liahona Research, comp. Maryland Marriages, 1667-1899. [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2000-. Original data: See the extended description for original data sources listed by county. **************************** Database: U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 Name: John M. Campbell Gender: male Birth Place: al Birth Year: 1795 Spouse Name: Elizabeth ??? Spouse Birth Place: MD Spouse Birth Year: 1799 Number Pages: 1 Source Information: Yates Publishing. U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 [database online]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: This unique collection of records was extracted from a variety of sources including family group sheets and electronic databases. Originally, the information was derived from an array of materials including pedigree charts, family history articles, queries, letters, Bible records, wills, biographies, and manuscript genealogies. For specific original source information contact Yates Publishing, providing them with the Source Number, Source Type, Number of Pages, and Submitter Code information listed for each individual. ********************************************* Database: 1800 United States Federal Census January 24, 2006 12:35 AM ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- View Record Name Residence (City,County,State) Year View Census John Campbell Frederick, Frederick, MD 1800 John Campble Liberty, Frederick, MD 1800 John Campl Woodsboro, Frederick, MD 1800 Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1800 U. S. Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, Utah: MyFamily.com, Inc., 2004. Original data: United States. 1800 United States Federal Census. M32, 52 rolls. National Archives and Records Administration, Washington D.C. *********************** Hope this helps some -----Original Message----- From: Nancy Knight [mailto:nnite@cox.net] Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 6:31 PM To: CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: John Campbell?? Can anyone tell me anything about a John Campbell who was on the 1780 tax list of Frederick County, Maryland? Nancy

Can anyone tell me anything about a John Campbell who was on the 1780 tax list of Frederick County, Maryland? Nancy

I will now set forth a report to date, summary of all 4 exact matches for the Campbell descendants of George, Abraham, Richard, and Fountain Campbell. #1. George Campbell b. about 1720, d. 1791 Amherst Co VA, he arrived in Amherst Co VA from Albemarle Co VA, perhaps he never moved, but due to county boundaries/names changes he went from Albemarle to Amherst Co VA. Married to Catherine, aka Caty. He left a Will, but did not name all 13 kids, but thanks to the court case his unnamed kids brought, we now know the name of all 13 kids. He lived on a Farm which sat on both sides of the Piney River, so after 1808 part of his original farm would be known as Nelson Co VA. DNA test #47499, Group 2c, this test was done by Cecil Campbell, direct descendant of George Campbell, thru his son William. familyhstryman@aol.com The children are: Ambrose, Joel, George, John, William, Samuel, James, Edward, Henry, Lucy, Mary, Sarah, Cathy. This is the group I belong to personally, I come from John, George, and possibly Henry. #2. Abraham Campbell b. about 1794, Russell Co, VA d. 12-28-1858 Johnson City, Washington Co., TN. DNA test #7678, Group 2c, test done by James Campbell, direct descendant of Abraham Campbell, Mary Campbell Ballard, d/o James, mball10195@aol.com Abraham Campbell married Winifred Alice Sevier, aka Winnie, d/o John Sevier (s/o Valentine?) Is this man the First Govenor of Tennessee? Winnie married in 1818 at Russell Co VA, she was born 1795 Halifax Co, NC, she d. 8-30-1885 Mendota, Russell Co VA. This information comes from the research of Linda Roy LDRoy516@aol.com, she did post this in the past to CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com , it should be in the archives. For a very full and long report by Linda Roy on the Campbell line, in which she takes the line back to Ireland, please see this website, it does need adobe, but there is an alternative to veiw it as HTML, without adobe, I found this website on www.google.com. http://www.jessee.org/newsletter/newsletter19/JesseeFamilyNewsletter19F...pdf According to the research of Linda Roy, this Abraham Campbell b. 1796, is s/o Henry b, about 1761 d. before 1850, s/o Abraham b. 1735-40 d 1805 Pittsylvania Co VA, s/o John b. 1700 Ireland d. near Stauton, Augusta Co VA, s/o Robert b. 1677 IR d. 1768 Augusta Co VA, s/o Duncan (or John), married to Mary McCoy or Ramsey. This Abraham Campbell is said to have been a Campbellite Minister (this is a religious group) His 8 children are: William Harvey; George Washington; Richard Henry; Abraham S.; John Wesley; David P.; James C.; Nancy E. #3. Lt. Col. Richard Campbell b. 1730-45 VA d. 9-8-1781 Eutaw Springs, SC. DNA test #12203, Group "2c", done by Felipe Antonio Campbell, direct descendant of Richard Campbell, email address for contact are: Lucila Campbell Roche ELan7@webtv.net or Jean Campbell Bunch SJeanbug@aol.com Richard maried Rebecca Hawkins, sister of Betsey Hawkins, the wife of John Sevier (s/o Valentine?) (Is this the 1st Gov. of TN?) (Winnie Sevier, the d/o John Sevier, married Abraham Campbell) Benjamin Hawkins is related to Rebecca and Betsey Hawkins. The 5 children of Richard Campbell are: Major John Campbell b. about 1750 d. about 1836, married 8-1789 at Shenandoah Co VA to Nancy Shirley, who was 3rd cousin to Gen George Washington. Lt. Archibald Campbell, who died with out children. Lt. Joseph Campbell, was in US Army, died 1805 at Ft. Stoddard, as of 1803 had a wife and a son. Richard Campbell, who was dead as of 1805 (died prior to, or during 1805) Jonathan Campbell, who was discharged from the Army. According to records at the County of Dunmore, VA Richard Campbell was buying land 12-27-1774, in the Deed Book. According to County of Dunmore, VA document dated May 1780 states that Valentine Sevier has a son named John Sevier. (is this the 1st Gov. of TN?) Richard Campbell has a Rev War Pension file #347-450-22, dated Feb. 1799, also listed as #2500-450. Richard Campbell left a will signed 9-22-1778 at Shenandoah Co VA. #4. Fountain Campbell b. 1803 Amherst Co VA, died ???, married Clarinda Collins. This DNA test was #22678, group 2c, test by Sam Campbell, direct descendant of Fountain Campbell, sgt_sam_wash_co@yahoo.com Can you please give us the names of the children of Fountain Campbell? I am very sorry I can not find them, if you gave them previously. That concludes this report, to date. If you are related, or have questions, or have further info, please POST that info here on the mailing list, because if you send a PRIVATE email to some researcher, the REST of us all will NOT be able to SEE it and we will be in the DARK. So please keep all the ancestry info on this mailing list, so that it will remain freely shared among us all, and we can all work together as a joint group. These 4 Campbell men are exact matches on DNA, that means that they share some common ancestor. So if we stick together we might just stumble upon that shared ancestor, that we all descend from. Also, if you know of any men named Campbell, ask them to do a DNA test for your group, and let's see if we are related? There is another test which is in the works now, which will also represent a direct descendant of George and Caty Campbell group, results are not in yet. Best regards, Lilly Martin, d/o Joe Martin, s/o Etta Keller, d/o Susie Jane Campbell, d/o Henry W. Campbell, and Nancy Jane Campbell, both of Temperance, Amherst Co VA.

Lilly, On the Rev. War pension records of George's two sons, John and William, they both stated that they moved from Albemarle Co. to Amherst Co. when they were small boys. This indicates to me that the family did in fact physically pick up and move some time in the late 1750's from one county to another. Steve Lilly Martin <malik@scs-net.org> wrote: I will now set forth a report to date, summary of all 4 exact matches for the Campbell descendants of George, Abraham, Richard, and Fountain Campbell. #1. George Campbell b. about 1720, d. 1791 Amherst Co VA, he arrived in Amherst Co VA from Albemarle Co VA, perhaps he never moved, but due to county boundaries/names changes he went from Albemarle to Amherst Co VA. Married to Catherine, aka Caty. He left a Will, but did not name all 13 kids, but thanks to the court case his unnamed kids brought, we now know the name of all 13 kids. He lived on a Farm which sat on both sides of the Piney River, so after 1808 part of his original farm would be known as Nelson Co VA. DNA test #47499, Group 2c, this test was done by Cecil Campbell, direct descendant of George Campbell, thru his son William. familyhstryman@aol.com The children are: Ambrose, Joel, George, John, William, Samuel, James, Edward, Henry, Lucy, Mary, Sarah, Cathy. This is the group I belong to personally, I come from John, George, and possibly Henry. #2. Abraham Campbell b. about 1794, Russell Co, VA d. 12-28-1858 Johnson City, Washington Co., TN. DNA test #7678, Group 2c, test done by James Campbell, direct descendant of Abraham Campbell, Mary Campbell Ballard, d/o James, mball10195@aol.com Abraham Campbell married Winifred Alice Sevier, aka Winnie, d/o John Sevier (s/o Valentine?) Is this man the First Govenor of Tennessee? Winnie married in 1818 at Russell Co VA, she was born 1795 Halifax Co, NC, she d. 8-30-1885 Mendota, Russell Co VA. This information comes from the research of Linda Roy LDRoy516@aol.com, she did post this in the past to CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com , it should be in the archives. For a very full and long report by Linda Roy on the Campbell line, in which she takes the line back to Ireland, please see this website, it does need adobe, but there is an alternative to veiw it as HTML, without adobe, I found this website on www.google.com. http://www.jessee.org/newsletter/newsletter19/JesseeFamilyNewsletter19F...pdf According to the research of Linda Roy, this Abraham Campbell b. 1796, is s/o Henry b, about 1761 d. before 1850, s/o Abraham b. 1735-40 d 1805 Pittsylvania Co VA, s/o John b. 1700 Ireland d. near Stauton, Augusta Co VA, s/o Robert b. 1677 IR d. 1768 Augusta Co VA, s/o Duncan (or John), married to Mary McCoy or Ramsey. This Abraham Campbell is said to have been a Campbellite Minister (this is a religious group) His 8 children are: William Harvey; George Washington; Richard Henry; Abraham S.; John Wesley; David P.; James C.; Nancy E. #3. Lt. Col. Richard Campbell b. 1730-45 VA d. 9-8-1781 Eutaw Springs, SC. DNA test #12203, Group "2c", done by Felipe Antonio Campbell, direct descendant of Richard Campbell, email address for contact are: Lucila Campbell Roche ELan7@webtv.net or Jean Campbell Bunch SJeanbug@aol.com Richard maried Rebecca Hawkins, sister of Betsey Hawkins, the wife of John Sevier (s/o Valentine?) (Is this the 1st Gov. of TN?) (Winnie Sevier, the d/o John Sevier, married Abraham Campbell) Benjamin Hawkins is related to Rebecca and Betsey Hawkins. The 5 children of Richard Campbell are: Major John Campbell b. about 1750 d. about 1836, married 8-1789 at Shenandoah Co VA to Nancy Shirley, who was 3rd cousin to Gen George Washington. Lt. Archibald Campbell, who died with out children. Lt. Joseph Campbell, was in US Army, died 1805 at Ft. Stoddard, as of 1803 had a wife and a son. Richard Campbell, who was dead as of 1805 (died prior to, or during 1805) Jonathan Campbell, who was discharged from the Army. According to records at the County of Dunmore, VA Richard Campbell was buying land 12-27-1774, in the Deed Book. According to County of Dunmore, VA document dated May 1780 states that Valentine Sevier has a son named John Sevier. (is this the 1st Gov. of TN?) Richard Campbell has a Rev War Pension file #347-450-22, dated Feb. 1799, also listed as #2500-450. Richard Campbell left a will signed 9-22-1778 at Shenandoah Co VA. #4. Fountain Campbell b. 1803 Amherst Co VA, died ???, married Clarinda Collins. This DNA test was #22678, group 2c, test by Sam Campbell, direct descendant of Fountain Campbell, sgt_sam_wash_co@yahoo.com Can you please give us the names of the children of Fountain Campbell? I am very sorry I can not find them, if you gave them previously. That concludes this report, to date. If you are related, or have questions, or have further info, please POST that info here on the mailing list, because if you send a PRIVATE email to some researcher, the REST of us all will NOT be able to SEE it and we will be in the DARK. So please keep all the ancestry info on this mailing list, so that it will remain freely shared among us all, and we can all work together as a joint group. These 4 Campbell men are exact matches on DNA, that means that they share some common ancestor. So if we stick together we might just stumble upon that shared ancestor, that we all descend from. Also, if you know of any men named Campbell, ask them to do a DNA test for your group, and let's see if we are related? There is another test which is in the works now, which will also represent a direct descendant of George and Caty Campbell group, results are not in yet. 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Regarding the missing marriage bonds for many marriages in old Amherst County, I was reminded to read Lenora Higginbotham Sweeny's accounting in her book AMHERST COUNTY, VIRGINIA IN THE REVOLUTION: INCLUDING EXTRACTS FROM THE "LOST ORDER BOOK" 1773-1782: "Several times we visited Amherst and searched for the missing volumes but to no avail.....In any event, it was only to hear again the old story that "The Order Book covering the Revolutionary period had either been destroyed or carried away during the Civil War." Somehow I could never accept this statement, and decided to make a diligent search for it under the seats of the Court Room, where I had been told by Miss Vera Joyner, Deputy Clerk of Amherst County, books and papers thought to be of no importance had been stored when the new Court House was built. After moving stacks of old ledgers and papers covered with the accumulated dust of years, peering through the misty cobwebs, lo! I spied "THE LOST ORDER BOOK!" With it was found a mass of papers containing, among other things, marriage bonds, unrecorded deeds and wills and a number of chancery suits of the eighteenth century." Note--marriage bonds. Further in her preface, Ms. Sweeny tells about "papers scattered on the floor of the outbuilding mixed with plaster and mortar....I found three marriage bonds...." These are two examples of the old records being tossed aside or scattered about by the "keepers of the records in old Amherst"! We are, indeed fortunate to have any records at all to research! Frances Campbell DID state in her application for pension that she and John Campbell were married in 1779. Shirley Craft Descendant of John and Frances (Wright?)Campbell, John and Susannah (Wright)Massie, Notley Warren and Frances (Dillard) Maddox, John and Sarah (?) Bowling ---- all of Amherst County, Virginia -----Original Message----- From: Steven Campbell [mailto:stevencampbell2@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 7:45 PM To: CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CAMPBELL] Amherst Marriage Index I found something very interesting/funny in the Revolutionary War pension records. The records were from the 1820's and 1830's and usually filed by the wife of the veteran. On two of the Campbell pension records, the wife claimed to have been married on a certain date; however, when the state checked the county clerk's office in Amherst Co. for the marriage record, it couldn't be found. So, they had to have another witness appear, in both cases, to confirm the couple's marriage date. My point being, even in the 1820's, records which were only 40 to 50 years old at the time were already missing from the county clerk's index. Nearly 200 years later, we're lucky to have access to as many records as we do. I believe John's marriage record was one of these cases, according to the pension. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos - Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and we'll bind it! ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429

Dear A.T. Powell and all others, I thought that the Feb 1779 marriage date for John Campbell and Frances was probably from the Rev. War Pension file, and now Steven Campbell has confirmed that. So I feel we can believe that John and Frances were married before he went into service in 1781. He entered the service in 1781, and entered at Amherst Co VA, so this means he was living in the area where his father George Campbell lived at. I still think that who ever Frances is, she is most likely a LOCAL girl, from Amherst Co VA. The 1787 Personal property tax record at Amherst Co VA shows several men named John Campbell, and I believe one of them was John Campbell b. 1750, the son of George, and married to Frances. I need to ask you, are you reffering to Benjamin Wright, the son of Francis Wright and Mary Hawkins, of Amherst Co VA? If you are thinking that this same Benjamin Wright could be the father of Frances, the wife of John Campbell, then we should look at him closer. Benjamin Wright is my own ancestor, and John Campbell and Frances are also my own ancestors, so this story does mean something to me persoanlly. Benjamin Wright was named as son in the Will of Francis Wright, probated in 1767 at Amherst Co VA. Benjamin Wright was buying land in Amherst Co in 1771, and continued to be recorded in documents concerning land in Amherst Co VA. He wrote his will in 1799, and it was probated in 1799 at Amherst Co VA. In 1800 his estate was appraised in Amherst Co VA, and John Campbell was named as one of 3 appraisers, this does not mean he was related, the other 2 men were Notley Warren Maddox, and George Gillaspie. The children of Benjamin Wright are thought to be: Phebe,Moses, Elizabeth, Oney, Martha, Susannah, Sally, Matilda, Jesse. If Benjamin did have an extra marital affair, and produce a daughter named Frances, with a womanof the Sorrells family, this could be in Amherst Co VA. Or this could be in a neighboring County such as Augusta, Rockbridge, or Albemarle, or others in the close vicinity. What I mean to say is this: that Benjamin Wright is the correct age to be the father of Frances, he was definately a neighbor of John Campbell, s/o George. Benjamin Wright was having children in the same basic time frame as what we would consider to be Frances' birth year. So it well could be true, but we should ask more questions with any Sorrell researchers who are from the Amherst Co VA vicinity. I feel that Frances was a local girl, born and raised either in Amherst Co VA, or not too far away. John and Frances were married prior to his going into service, so I don't think he was traveling anywhere to get married, I don't think she was from some far removed place. Now I could be wrong, but from the marriage date, and the military service entry date, that places John Campbell in Amherst Co VA, not far from his father George Campbell. Unless he had some special reason to go off roaming around in 1779, I feel he was probably married fairly close to home. Definately, I would say that the Revolutionary War did not have an effect on his marriage, because he was married prior to his War Duty. Concerning the Marriage Index at the Library of Virginia, not all the marriages are on the index. I have the index, and I have heard from many, many people, who have a real live copy of a courthouse marriage record, in VA, and it was not on the index. Why are some marriages ommitted, or missed? I don't know, it is frustrating to know that not all are on the index, so I suggest more searches to be done for the exact date of February 1779, and we might just find a record which states Frances is the daughter of XYZ , and we will finally know the truth. In conclusion, I think that your theory could hold water, but right now there is nothing to support it, so we can only guess at this point. Do we know how many SORRELL families were in the area as of 1760? We still need to find some researcher who has files on the various Amherst Co Sorrell families, to see what light they may shed on this question. Best regards, Lilly Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Campbell" <stevencampbell2@yahoo.com> To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 8:56 PM Subject: Re: [CAMPBELL] RE- JOHN CAMPBEL & ELIZABETH WRIGHT > AT, that's not true. John Campbell's pension record, of which a summary I > have previously posted on here, clearly states that (according to > Frances), they were married in Feb. 1779 in Amherst Co. > > > Atpowelljr@aol.com wrote: COUSINS, > I never said that the John Campbell - Elizabeth Wright Marriage in YORK > COUNTY WAS OURS, BUT No one & I Mean NO one has ever found a Record of A > marriage > of John Campbell & Frances ANY WHERE, NOW I have talked to LOIS Campbell > in > Alexandra, > Va & she SAYS that there is no Record of Our John Campbell Having Married > < > Frances> listed in the Amherst County, Va, > Marriage records on Reel # 37 of Amherst County VA. Marriages From 1761 > to > 1853 that is in the State Library here in Richmond VA, > JUST asking, What Proof do you have that Benjamin Wright was in Amherst > County VA ON DEC/24/1787/

I found something very interesting/funny in the Revolutionary War pension records. The records were from the 1820's and 1830's and usually filed by the wife of the veteran. On two of the Campbell pension records, the wife claimed to have been married on a certain date; however, when the state checked the county clerk's office in Amherst Co. for the marriage record, it couldn't be found. So, they had to have another witness appear, in both cases, to confirm the couple's marriage date. My point being, even in the 1820's, records which were only 40 to 50 years old at the time were already missing from the county clerk's index. Nearly 200 years later, we're lucky to have access to as many records as we do. I believe John's marriage record was one of these cases, according to the pension. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos – Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and we’ll bind it!

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AT, that's not true. John Campbell's pension record, of which a summary I have previously posted on here, clearly states that (according to Frances), they were married in Feb. 1779 in Amherst Co. Atpowelljr@aol.com wrote: COUSINS, I never said that the John Campbell - Elizabeth Wright Marriage in YORK COUNTY WAS OURS, BUT No one & I Mean NO one has ever found a Record of A marriage of John Campbell & Frances ANY WHERE, NOW I have talked to LOIS Campbell in Alexandra, Va & she SAYS that there is no Record of Our John Campbell Having Married < Frances> listed in the Amherst County, Va, Marriage records on Reel # 37 of Amherst County VA. Marriages From 1761 to 1853 that is in the State Library here in Richmond VA, JUST asking, What Proof do you have that Benjamin Wright was in Amherst County VA ON DEC/24/1787/ I will still have to Hold onto the Belief that Frances WAS the Results of a Common Law Union Between Benjamin Wright & A Sorrells WOMAN, UNTIL THERE is MORE Proof OTHER WISE. A Child from a Common law Union usually went with the Mother, BUT SUPPOSE MAMA DIED IN Child birth?? I fail to understand the reluctance of the posibility. OH I know there is NO MARRIAGE RECORD in Amherst County. IS IT possible that GRAND PA JOHN & GRAND MA Frances WERE a Common Law Union, I would rather Hope Not BUT no one has ever found a Marriage Of them & Are Shooting Down all other Possibilities. I was JUST trying to Give Grand Ma Frances a Maiden NAME. < SO OH WELL> CUZ A T & Leona < atpowellj@aol.com> ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever.

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Dear Cousin A. T., and all others, I read what your theory is, and also visited the Sorrells webpage which Marge shared with us. I wish I was a Sorrells, because they have got that name all the way back to the days of the Knights of the Roundtable in England! Oh well, we Campbell are still looking..... Concerning Frances, who was the wife of John Campbell b. 1750 VA, d. 1838 Amherst Co VA. John Campbell was the son of George and Caty Campbell of Amherst Co VA. John entered the Army in 1781 at Amherst Co VA. He would be 31 years old at that date. Was he single or married? He served for 4 months and was at the Seige of Yorktown. That Seige was exactly what date? I could look that up on my Encyclopedia CD, but probably many of you know it by heart, I don't. He was also on the Guilford Expedition, which is the Courthouse at Guilford, which is now called GREENSBORO, NC. Was Frances a Tar-Heel girl, of North Carolina? The marriage record between Frances and John has never been found, but it could exist, we just didn't look in the right place yet. However, the date February of 1779 is always given for the date of the marriage between John and Frances. Was that date stated on his Revolutionary War Pension Application? I know they did in fact ask for marriage dates, so maybe this is where that 1779 date comes from. If the date 1779 is correct, that means that John and Frances were married before he entered service (Army), and he would have been about 29 years of age when he married. This would have been before he went to Yorktown to fight. In 1779 he should have been living in Amherst Co VA, either on his father's land, or on his own farm land perhaps given to him by his father, or land he bought himself. The marriage record you found for a John Campbell and Elizabeth Wright, d/o Benjamin Wright of Yorkhampton Paris, dated 1787 does not seen to fit to our John Campbell. I think this is a totally separate man. The name WRIGHT in Colonial Virginia is very, very numerous, and they do not all relate together. Wright is a very common English name, and even in Amherst Co alone there are many Wright family lines, some are separate, and don't relate. In Amherst Co my ancestor Francis Wright died, and he did have a son Benjamin Wright, but in the year 1787 this Benjamin Wright was in Amherst Co VA, and not in Yorkhampton Parish, and he had a daughter Elizabeth, and she married Benjamin Camden, of the Amherst-Nelson Co Camden line. What I mean to say, is the name Campbell and Wright were common in Colonial Virginia, and in the year 1787, the year of that marriage record you found, I don't see any connection between our John Campbell of Amherst Co VA, and the Benjamin Wright family in Yorkhampton Parish, VA. I think, that if the February 1779 marriage date fo Frances and John is TRUE, and was reported by John himself, or some credible source, then I believe that date would most likely find John and Frances both living in Amherst Co VA, and that Frances was most likely a LOCAL girl, and not from a far-off place. They probably married somewhere close to Amherst Co VA, if not in Amherst Co itself. The FIRST child I have recorded for them is my own ancestor James W. Campbell b. 1784. Now, 1779 and 1784 is a space of 5 years. Pretty long time to be married with out having a baby, but of course that can happen. Or she could have had babies which died young, or she could have had a baby before James which I just don't have listed. That is all possible. We do have listed 10 kids, so there is room for a few more which we don't know about. Or the other possibilty would be that the marriage date of 1779 is NOT correct, and that John and Frances did get married while he was away in the Army in 1781. In that case she could be a girl from a far-off family, not a local girl. I have no idea as to who Frances is, or from where. I have never heard or seen any convincing story or evidence that she was from anywhere except Amherst Co VA. Common sense would say John Campbell married a local girl, and was married prior to joining the Army, as he was by then 31 years old, and that is late to marry in those days. That scenerio would support the 1779 marriage date, but does not explain why their first baby was not born until 1784, 5 years later. So were there any girls named Frances in the Amherst Co area who are listed in some genealogy, but never have a marriage listed for them? Was she Wright, Camden, Thompson, Massie, Ramsey, etc. We could sit up all night listing every well known family line in Amherst Co, and still not get it right, but eventually if we discuss and share enough, I think something should pop-up. Best regards, Lilly Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: Atpowelljr@aol.com To: CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com Cc: powell2140@comcast.ne ; malik@scs-net.org Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [CAMPBELL] Re: Reply to Mr. Mick, re: Genetic Memory WELL please Type into your Search; Marriage Bonds, <1772-1792>In York County Va. in the results Click on to Abstracts of License Bonds <1772-1792 York County. This is an 11 page Print out: on Print out Page- There is on that Page, <page 57> NOTE>; 24th Dec. '87. John Campbell to Elizabeth Wright, Daughter of Benjamin Wright of Yorkhampton Parish; Security, Thos. Dawson. THERE was one John Campbell on theTax roll in York County in 1790. NOW TRUE: this may Create more questions than it Answers, BUT COUSINS do you have any thing Better to Work on to give Grand MA a Maiden Name? In a Sorrells Genealogy Posting, I found where Benjamin Wright Had a Common law Union with one Sorrells woman< <I failed to Copy it & now haven;t found I again. It is a Fact that OUR John Campbell WAS IN Yorktown At the end of the REV-WAR. I believe that John went Back & Married Elizabeth Wright, who was A Daughter from the Common Law Union, BUT when John Campbell got back to Lowesville Va with his Bride, < Her age was Older than a daughter of Benjamin Wright's Lawful Wife Could have Been. SO as not too Embarrass Grand Pa Benjamin Wright, John Campbell's Bride became JUST Frances. NOW there are THOUSANDS of Descendents from this Union OF John Campbell & Frances, <WRIGHT> & I A. T. Powell, Jr. a 6th Generation descendent, believe that Grand MA, GRAMA Frances Should have a Maiden name IF Posiable. OK COUSIN's - Descendents of John Campbell & Frances. __?? . PLEASE Sound OFF- I have Brought it this far- AT atpowelljr@aol.com

COUSINS, I never said that the John Campbell - Elizabeth Wright Marriage in YORK COUNTY WAS OURS, BUT No one & I Mean NO one has ever found a Record of A marriage of John Campbell & Frances ANY WHERE, NOW I have talked to LOIS Campbell in Alexandra, Va & she SAYS that there is no Record of Our John Campbell Having Married < Frances> listed in the Amherst County, Va, Marriage records on Reel # 37 of Amherst County VA. Marriages From 1761 to 1853 that is in the State Library here in Richmond VA, JUST asking, What Proof do you have that Benjamin Wright was in Amherst County VA ON DEC/24/1787/ I will still have to Hold onto the Belief that Frances WAS the Results of a Common Law Union Between Benjamin Wright & A Sorrells WOMAN, UNTIL THERE is MORE Proof OTHER WISE. A Child from a Common law Union usually went with the Mother, BUT SUPPOSE MAMA DIED IN Child birth?? I fail to understand the reluctance of the posibility. OH I know there is NO MARRIAGE RECORD in Amherst County. IS IT possible that GRAND PA JOHN & GRAND MA Frances WERE a Common Law Union, I would rather Hope Not BUT no one has ever found a Marriage Of them & Are Shooting Down all other Possibilities. I was JUST trying to Give Grand Ma Frances a Maiden NAME. < SO OH WELL> CUZ A T & Leona < atpowellj@aol.com>

Bucky Harris had some passenger lists. They had three George Campbells on them, between 1742 and 1744, entering Prince William County VA from Great Britain. On the same ships there were three Catherines: Catherine Duncan, Catherine McClode, and Catherine McDuff. There were no other passengers with the same last name as any of the women, meaning, they weren't being accompanied by their father/mother nor husband. Any chance that once of these woman would be Caty, accompanying her fiancee or future fiancee George Campbell to the New World? Any ideas on how we can find out? --------------------------------- What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos

It works Steven. Paul C. ----- Original Message ----- From: Steven Campbell<mailto:stevencampbell2@yahoo.com> To: CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 1:22 PM Subject: [CAMPBELL] Test---New Email Address I'm trying to see if I can post with my new email address.... --------------------------------- Yahoo! Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get pricing, reviews, & more on new and used cars. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx>

works fine Steven. BH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Campbell" <stevencampbell2@yahoo.com> To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 1:22 PM Subject: [CAMPBELL] Test---New Email Address > I'm trying to see if I can post with my new email address.... > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Autos. Looking for a sweet ride? Get pricing, reviews, & more on > new and used cars. > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

http://www.rootsweb.com/~chalkley/ This will take you to the Lyman Chalkley papers at rootsweb. Marge -----Original Message----- From: Samuel Campbell [mailto:sgt_sam_wash_co@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 7:03 PM To: CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Campbell Lineage of Lt. Colonel Richard Campbell of VA. Lynden, The Abraham Campbell that I can think of in that Time Slot is ; of Mary Campbell / Ballards Lineage & she connects with me in D N A , as she had her Father { James Campbell } do the Test for their Lineage . This Abraham Campbell is on the Tax records of Russell County, VA. in 1794, & is thought to be a son of Henry Campbell. I will send you Mary Campbell / Ballards E-Mail Address if you like . Sam Campbell Lynden Harris <bharris@ntelos.net> wrote: Sam; The last few days has brought forth some anxious new leads!!! With a direct match between you, Cecil and this Lt Colonel Richard Campbell; may be some significant wall is about to break. You are aware of the Lyman Chalkley Chronicles? They are extracted court records from the Augusta County Court between 1745 and 1800. Lyman provides a synopsis of each entry by date of each court document. The Chronicles are bond into 3 volumes. They are indexed well and research is very simple. What you get here is something that you can trust as proof positive. These records are available on line from the Augusta, Rockbridge, Amherst counties web sites or direct from rootsweb. The entire court case is not published but you can pick up enough information to determine if it is applicable to your search. Then head for Staunton and go direct to the actual records. For example, I will quote one case: June 11th 1828. It is certified that Colonel Richard Campbell, who was killed at Eutaw, married Rebecca________?sister of Betsy Hawkins; that he left sons, Archibald, Joseph, John, Richard, Jonathan. That's not telling a whole lot but if you go to the court records for that day, they should provide many legal documents, including subpoenas, depositions, and court records that should provide lots of answers. First, you will confirm that he married Rebecca Hawkins; you will know 4 more sons names other than John, and it is hard to tell what else you will find in the records. Since Richard was killed in 1781 and this case is 48 years later, some kind of family problem neeeded solving. Richard Campbell has 6 court cases in Augusta County, including the above, plus 9 more court cases from Shenandoah and Page Counties. The first message that came through regarding Richard had reference to an Abraham Campbell - do you know anything about him? BH From: To: Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 3:50 AM Subject: Re: [CAMPBELL] Re: Reply to Mr. Mick, re: Genetic Memory > HOWDY COUSINS, > I will be 80 YEARS in March 2006- I traveled through this Country, > With an out door Adverising company, Erecting Highway signs, FOR a Two > Period, > 1949 & > 50, I learned shortly that the sooner that I became Native the easier > it was to do Business,. IT works this Way, Y,LL don't Get far in > N-yark Nor Does YOUSE-GUYS HACK It in Ms. > > NOW that was not GENEALOGY, BUT the next time that you are looking for > that elusive Ancestor___??, I have found that when I place my Self as > that person, one will more easily find what one is looking for & > better understand it, Go ahead & laugh, BUT IF there a Genealogical > Connection, one YOU OR I will make it. > > TRY IT. > > NOW; There are about as nany Descendents of John Campbell, > > Wagon-neer> M Frances > > NOW; This Couple are one set of my 4th Grt Grand Parents AND ALL OR > most of their Descendents Have after over 200 years still have Mine & > Many of your Grt Grand Mother without a Maiden name. Remember, JUST > Frances. > > WELL please Type into your Search; Marriage Bonds, <1772-1792>In York > County Va. in the results Click on to Abstracts of License Bonds > <1772-1792 York > County. > > This is an 11 page Print out: on Print out Page- There is on that > Page, < page 57> > > NOTE>; 24th Dec. '87. John Campbell to Elizabeth Wright, Daughter of > Benjamin Wright of Yorkhampton Parish; Security, Thos. Dawson. THERE > was one John Campbell on theTax roll in York County in 1790. > > NOW TRUE: this may Create more questions than it Answers, BUT COUSINS > do you have any thing Better to Work on to give Grand MA a Maiden > Name? > > In a Sorrells Genealogy Posting, I found where Benjamin Wright Had a > Common law Union with one Sorrells woman< > now haven;t found I again. > > It is a Fact that OUR John Campbell WAS IN Yorktown At the end of the > REV-WAR. > > I believe that John went Back & Married Elizabeth Wright, who was A > Daughter from the Common Law Union, BUT when John Campbell got back to > Lowesville Va with his Bride, < Her age was Older than a daughter of > Benjamin Wright's Lawful Wife Could have Been. SO as not too Embarrass > Grand Pa Benjamin Wright, John Campbell's Bride became JUST Frances. > > NOW there are THOUSANDS of Descendents from this Union OF John > Campbell & Frances, & I A. T. 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This is not my Campbell but I found this biography in the Bureau County archives at rootsweb.com. I hope it helps someone. CAMPBELL, Armstrong Armstrong Campbell, Selby, was born in Juniatta County, Penn., January 19, 1822. He is of Scotch descent, a son of John and Nancy (Bard) Campbell. His father was a native of Sherman's Valley, Penn., and his mother of Miflin County. Both died in Huntingdon County, Penn.--he in the fall of 1860, at the age of seventy-three; she in 1870, at the age of eighty-three. They were the parents of two sons and two daughters, viz.: William I., of Selby Township; Eliza, deceased; Armstrong, our subject, Celia Ann Stewart, deceased. When our subject was ten years old he removed with his parents to Huntingdon County, Penn., where he resided until 1854, when he came to Bureau County, Ill., and settled in Selby Township, where he has since resided. He, in partnership with his brother, bought the south half of Section 1, and since 1856 he has resided on the south west quarter of Section 1. He now owns 240 acres in Selby Township, one tract of eighty acres being in Section 11. Mr. Campbell was reared on a farm and has always made farming his occupation. He was married in Pennsylvania, December 19, 1850, to Mary A. Duff. She was born in Huntingdon County, Penn., February 19, 1832, a daughter of John and Barbara (Randolph) Duff, both natives of Pennsylvania. He was born in 1804 and is still living in Huntingdon County, Penn., a retired farmer. His wife was born in May 1807, died June 16, 1884. Mr. and Mrs. Campbell are parents of seven children, viz.: Alexander, born June 20, 1857, died March 20, 1884; Nancy, born October 3, 1858, wife of Ezra Rouse, of Selby Township; William Irvin, born January 31, 1860; Clark, born April 27, 1865. Three children died in infancy. In politics Mr. Campbell is a Republican. He has been a member of the Levi Lusk Lodge, A. F. & A. M., of Arlington, since 1860. He is also a member of the M. B. Society of Princeton. He and wife are members of the Baptist Church. Source: History of Bureau County, Illinois, H. C. Bradsby, Editor. World Publishing Company Chicago 1885

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