Mary: The newspapers which covered the Monterey/Pacific Grove area are located in the Monterey Public Library on microfilm. I will be there next week and can look up obits for you. Do you have one for William? As far as Delia, do you have an exact date of death? If not, it will be more difficult. During that time period the newspapers may be weekly, and deaths or articles about them are not always listed in one place, so the whole newspaper must be searched. Have you tried to find Delia in the pre-1905 death records of either county? If not, I can look at those for you. --Sheila P. In a message dated 4/21/00 11:53:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mjefferson@gci.net writes: > Good day from a brand new subscriber. > > I have been tracking a Johnson family from Hollister to Pacific Grove to > Lompoc. William Johnson died in Pacific Grove 5 October 1928. His wife Delia > J. died either in Hollister or Pacific Grove in 1898. Both were buried in > Hollister. > > My question, what newspaper would have carried the obituary or obituaries if > Delia died there also. Is there a local genealogy society that would look up > this obituary for a donation? > > Thank you all. > > Mary Jefferson mjefferson@gci.net > Juneau, Alaska > > "A synonym is a word you use when you > can't spell the other one." Baltsar Gracian > >

Searched the new CADI cds and couldn't find a Blaine Byal dying in 1945. You have a typo on the death date you give below. . I would say that this is your Blaine Byal.... BYAL BLAINE HENRY 08/31/1896 mother's maiden name KIRKPATRICK father BYAL born NB died Monterey 06/05/1948 ss554222938 age at death 51 other Byal listings from 1940-49 BYAL ELIZABETH E 09/27/1873 BALLARD 2OH19 12/06/1945 0172 BOYD FREDDIE DEE dob 10/06/1929 mother's maiden name BYAL father BOYD bp OK died Fresno 04/25/1949 ss545380159 age 19 Here's the Ruth you asked about.... BYAL RUTH dob 11/13/1919 mother WARSAW father BOYCE bp NY died Sacramento 03/29/1989 ss573096356 age 69 These are the Byal births in CA 1905-1995 Last name, first name, middle, date of birth, sex, mother's maiden name, county of birth BYAL,DOROTHY,E,10/03/1920,FEMALE,ARBOUGH,IMPERIAL BYAL,RICHARD,M,08/26/1924,MALE,ARBAUGH,LOS ANGELES BYAL,ROBERT,JASON,03/19/1944,MALE,SCHAFFRAN,LOS ANGELES GAY,RICHARD,BENJAMIN,12/10/1944,MALE,BYAL,RIVERSIDE Maybe this is a granddaughter to Blaine: LEFF,ALICIA,DEBRA,02/22/1945,FEMALE,BYAL,MONTEREY BYAL,TIMOTHY,ERLEIGH,12/08/1946,MALE,SCHAFFRAN,LOS ANGELES BYAL,CHRISTOPHER,DAVID,05/27/1948,MALE,SCHAFFRAN,LOS ANGELES BYAL,JULIANA, ,06/19/1949,FEMALE,SHULTZ,LOS ANGELES GAY,LARRY,ROBERT,10/25/1949,MALE,BYAL,SAN BERNARDINO BYAL,SUSAN,KATHLEEN,08/27/1952,FEMALE,SHULTZ,LOS ANGELES TRAUCHT,PAULA,LEE,03/12/1952,FEMALE,BYAL,LOS ANGELES GAY,JOHN,RAYMOND,10/08/1954,MALE,BYAL,RIVERSIDE BYAL,ROBERT,H,10/22/1958,MALE,SHOBER,ALAMEDA BYAL,ERNEST,H,10/23/1961,MALE,SHOBER,ALAMEDA BYAL, , ,02/11/1968,FEMALE,RUNGE,LOS ANGELES FREELAND,TODD,E,11/15/1970,MALE,BYAL,CONTRA COSTA BYAL,JASON,R,11/07/1972,MALE,RUNGE,LOS ANGELES BYAL,REBECCA,R,02/20/1976,FEMALE,BYAL,SAN MATEO BYAL,CRAIG,ANTHONY,07/13/1982,MALE,COX,ALAMEDA BYAL,ZACHARY,JENSEN,04/02/1982,MALE,JENSEN,SACRAMENTO POOLE,TIMOTHY,JOHN,08/29/1987,MALE,BYAL,SAN DIEGO AVILA,ANGELIQUE,KRISTLE,07/02/1989,FEMALE,BYAL,ALAMEDA POOLE,HEATHER,ANNE,02/11/1989,FEMALE,BYAL,SAN DIEGO AVILA,SERGIO,ELIAS,09/21/1990,MALE,BYAL,ALAMEDA BYAL,KELLYE,MARIN,06/05/1992,FEMALE,MYERS,SANTA CLARA LEE,STELLA,BYAL,10/12/1992,FEMALE,KU,LOS ANGELES Colleen Norby -----Original Message----- From: Karen Mills Rossi <kmsrossi@pe.net> To: CAMONTER-L@rootsweb.com <CAMONTER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, April 20, 2000 2:07 PM Subject: [CAMONTER] Byal >Posted on: Monterey County Queries >Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ca/Monterey?read=279 > >Surname: BYAL, KIRKPATRICK, MILLS >------------------------- > >Searching for Blaine BYAL, younger brother of Aldah Margaret BYAL MILLS. >Blaine & Aldah were the only children born to Milton BYAL and his wife, >Stella KIRKPATRICK BYAL in Nebraska. > >Aldah was born on January 18, 1892 and I assume that Blaine was born several >years later. The family relocated to California around 1910. Aldah married >Arthur Russell MILLS in Riverside, California on June 16, 1915 and remained >in Riverside until her death in 1974. > >Blaine is listed as having been at the wedding ... but no other information >is known. There is a California Death Index listing for a Blaine H. BYAL, >died June 5, 1945 in Monterey County. Spouse intials are listed as "O B". > >Perhaps this Blaine is the one I am seeking? Any information would be greatly >appreciated. > >Also found a listing for a Ruth BYAL b. Nov. 13, 1919 and d. Mar. 30, 1989 >in Sacramento, California. Could this possibly be a daughter of Blaine? > >Thank you! > >

Posted on: Monterey County Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ca/Monterey?read=279 Surname: BYAL, KIRKPATRICK, MILLS ------------------------- Searching for Blaine BYAL, younger brother of Aldah Margaret BYAL MILLS. Blaine & Aldah were the only children born to Milton BYAL and his wife, Stella KIRKPATRICK BYAL in Nebraska. Aldah was born on January 18, 1892 and I assume that Blaine was born several years later. The family relocated to California around 1910. Aldah married Arthur Russell MILLS in Riverside, California on June 16, 1915 and remained in Riverside until her death in 1974. Blaine is listed as having been at the wedding ... but no other information is known. There is a California Death Index listing for a Blaine H. BYAL, died June 5, 1945 in Monterey County. Spouse intials are listed as "O B". Perhaps this Blaine is the one I am seeking? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Also found a listing for a Ruth BYAL b. Nov. 13, 1919 and d. Mar. 30, 1989 in Sacramento, California. Could this possibly be a daughter of Blaine? Thank you!

Hi Linda, I checked the Monterey County/San Benito County telephone book. There are numerous listings for "Valencia", but none for a Joaquin B. Valencia. Hope this helps, Anita C. Monterey County

I'm not related, just a volunteer. Checked the CA death index for Joaquin Valencia and could not find that person dying in CA from 1990-1997. Do you think he is still alive? If not, do you have any idea when he was last heard from? I have access to CADI 1940-97 and could look at other years for you. If you are trying to locate a lost relative or friend, who lives in California, DMV's message forwarding service may assist you. There is a nonrefundable fee of $5 for this service, and here is how it works: You complete a Message Forwarding Service form INF 1211B. DMV will forward the message you wrote, if a positive match is found on the database. The response by the recipient is strictly voluntary. The department reserves the right to review the message for content and to reject any message that, in the opinion of the department, appears to be contrary to public interest. Rejected messages will be returned to the requester. For more information call (916) 657-8098 site to download the form is www.dmv.ca.gov/forms/inf1211.pdf <http://www.dmv.ca.gov/forms/inf1211.pdf> The form is as follows; Page 1 Instruction for sender of message. Requires name, address, phone #. Infor regarding the person you wish to contact: 1. full name, birthdate or approx age, OR 2. full name, driver license or ID card # OR 3. Vehicle License Plate or VIN # OR 4. Vessel CF (HIN) A $5.00 non-refundable service fee, payable by check or money order made payable to DMV. Messages addresssed to minors will not be forwarded. Address of where to send message PAGE 2 Your message. -----Original Message----- From: Linda <ROCLJC@aol.com> To: CAMONTER-L@rootsweb.com <CAMONTER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, April 17, 2000 1:19 PM Subject: [CAMONTER] Valencia >Posted on: Monterey County Queries >Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ca/Monterey?read=278 > >Surname: Valencia, Charlan, Cadieux >------------------------- > >I am looking for my grandfather his name is Joaquin B. Valencia. He was >born in Mexico City in 1909. Is this any relation to you? >

Posted on: Monterey County Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ca/Monterey?read=278 Surname: Valencia, Charlan, Cadieux ------------------------- I am looking for my grandfather his name is Joaquin B. Valencia. He was born in Mexico City in 1909. Is this any relation to you?

Hi Shirley, I don't know anything about the Bourgess family but D.W. POTTER was one of my collateral ancestors. His full name was David Willis Potter and he was my grandmother's cousin. D.W. was born near Salinas, CA and as an adult owned a blacksmith shop in San Lucas. D.W.'s son, Clyde, recently died at age 91. Hope this helps, Anita C. monterey County Shirley Rienecker wrote: > Posted on: Monterey County Queries > Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ca/Monterey?read=277 > > Surname: Bourges, Dewlaney, Williams > ------------------------- > > Adelmer Dewlaney bought land (1/4 section #19 in township 20)from the Southern > Pacific RR in 1889 bordering the beginning of Wildhorse Canyon near San > Lucas. In 1898 he also homesteaded (1/4 section # 1 township 21) in Long > Valley near San Lucas. In 1895 he married Louise F Bourgess in Peach Tree > at the top of Long Valley. They left the area by 1900 to head to Norther > Cal. If anyone could relay any infomation about the families and the properties > history. The Bourges faher was John B Bourgess. His land was across the > river from San Lucas off the Oasis Road.We do not know what happened to > the rest of the Bourges family. Alfred and Alice Bourges signed the marriage > papers and a D.W. Potter was the Justice of the Peace at Peach Tree. If > anyone has the 1880 or 1890 Fed census that would list both families and > it would help give info. Thank you.

Posted on: Monterey County Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ca/Monterey?read=277 Surname: Bourges, Dewlaney, Williams ------------------------- Adelmer Dewlaney bought land (1/4 section #19 in township 20)from the Southern Pacific RR in 1889 bordering the beginning of Wildhorse Canyon near San Lucas. In 1898 he also homesteaded (1/4 section # 1 township 21) in Long Valley near San Lucas. In 1895 he married Louise F Bourgess in Peach Tree at the top of Long Valley. They left the area by 1900 to head to Norther Cal. If anyone could relay any infomation about the families and the properties history. The Bourges faher was John B Bourgess. His land was across the river from San Lucas off the Oasis Road.We do not know what happened to the rest of the Bourges family. Alfred and Alice Bourges signed the marriage papers and a D.W. Potter was the Justice of the Peace at Peach Tree. If anyone has the 1880 or 1890 Fed census that would list both families and it would help give info. Thank you.

Posted on: Monterey County Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ca/Monterey?read=276 Surname: Burton, Webb, Hiatt, Kuntz ------------------------- Cathy: I have posted the obit for Philip A. Burton to the Monterey County obit board. If you would like the paper copy, please give me your address and I will mail it to you. I am posting below the transcribed death certificate for Philip Allen Burton, from the Monterey County Recorder's Office. --Sheila P. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Source: Monterey County Recorder's Office, Reel 3/89 27 001009 Name: Philip Allen Burton SS: 570-58-5692 Date of Death: 24 June 1989 Time of Death: 0135 Place of Death: Salinas Valley Memorial Hospital, 450 East Romie Lane, Salinas, California Residence: 112 - 8th Street, Greenfield, California 93927 In County: 7 years In State: not given Age: 48 Date of Birth: 19 June 1941 Birthplace: ND Sex: M Race: White, U.S. citizen Occupation: Radio announcer, KRKC Radio; in this occupation for 20 years Marital Status: divorced Spouse: -- Father: Robert Burton Birthplace: ND Mother: Pauline A. Webb Birthplace: ND Cause of Death and contributing: lung cancer, due to smoking; severe chronic lung disease with broncheolasis Dr.: Mark J. Klein, Salinas Length of treatment: 5/4/1987 - 6/23/1989 Funeral Home: Healey Mortuary Disposition and Date: CR 30 June 1989; not embalmed Cemetery: Family Storage, P.O. Box 1251, Greenfield, California Informant: Carma J. Degner, niece; 112 - 8th Street, Greenfield, California Military: none Education: 12 years

Sally: I have copied and posted the obituary for Robert B. Holstrom to the Monterey County obit board at <http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ca/MontereyObits>. If you would like the paper copy of the obit, please send me your address privately. Here is a transcription of his death certificate. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Source: Monterey County Recorder's Office Reel 24/255 2700 1540 Name: Robert Brady Holstrom SS 326-12-8931 Date of Death: 28 October 1980 Time of Death: 0955 Place of Death: Silas B. Hayes Army Community Hospital, Gigling Road, Fort Ord, California Residence: 472 Monroe St. Apt #1, Monterey, California In County: not asked In State: not asked Age: 59 Date of Birth: 11 December 1920 Birthplace: Illinois Sex: M Race: White Occupation: U.S. Army Retired; length of occupation 28 years Marital Status: Married Spouse: Margaret Clark Father: George Holstrom Birthplace: Sweden Mother: Jeanette Murray Birthplace: Scotland Cause of Death and contributing: cardiac arrest; cardiomyopathy Dr.: James V. Meli Jr., D.O., Silas B. Hayes Army Community Hospital Length of treatment: 10/5/1980 - 10/28/1980 Funeral Home: Paul Mortuary Disposition and Date: Burial 1 November 1980 Cemetery: Forest Lawn Memorial Park, Erlanger, Kentucky Informant: Margaret Holstrom , wife; address above --Sheila P. In a message dated 1/26/00 6:47:13 PM Pacific Standard Time, w6uyf@earthlink.net writes: > The following was posted by Sally <sallyt@mw.sisna.com> on Mon, 24 Jan > 2000 > on the Monterey County GenConnect Query Forum: > > > Surname: Holstrom > > I was wondering if there is someone out there who can copy the > information off of my Uncles > Obituary. He died in Monteray October 20, 1980. Also wondering if anyone > could share anything > regarding this person.I am trying to find out where he was buried. I > have been told he was sent to > Kentucky to be buried, but where. Any help would be appreciated. > > - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------ > >

Tessa: Here are transcriptions of the death certificates for Nellie McAlpine and Louise Krives, from Monterey County. Haven't gotten to the obits yet. Source: Monterey County Recorder's Office, 001298 3 90 27 Name: Nellie Louise McAlpine SS 362-28-4246 Date of Death: 30 July 1990 Time of Death: 1755 Place of Death: Residence Residence: 216 Crocker, Pacific Grove, California 93950 In County: 27 years In State: not listed Age: 67 Date of Birth: 29 October 1922 Birthplace: MI Sex: F Race: White, U.S. Citizen Occupation: Chief Librarian, Fort Ord; 30 years in this occupation Marital Status: never married Spouse: N/A Father: Alexander McAlpine Birthplace: MI Mother: Alice Krives Birthplace: England Cause of Death and contributing: respiratory failure; bronchogenic carcinoma; chronic renal failure; polycystic kidney disease; hypertension Operations: right thoractomy 2/17/1988 Dr.: Jon Kitaji, Monterey Length of treatment: 10/16/1985 - 7/26/1990 Funeral Home: Paul Mortuary, Pacific Grove Disposition and Date: CR/Sea 8/1/1990; not embalmed Cemetery: Sea off Point Lobos, Carmel, California Informant: Beverly McAlpine, cousin; 216 Crocker, Pacific Grove, CA 93950 Education: 17 years +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Source: Monterey County Recorder's Office, Reel 22/693 2700 135 Name: Louise Krives SS: 383-05-1298 Date of Death: 24 January 1979 Time of Death: 0840 Place of Death: Community Hospital of Monterey, Highway 1 and Holman Highway Residence: 216 Crocker Avenue, Pacific Grove, California In County: not asked In State: not asked Age: 81 Date of Birth: 30 August 1897 Birthplace: England Sex: F Race: White, American, U.S. Citizen Occupation: Bookkeeper, O"Halloran's Florist; 10 years in this occupation Marital Status: never married Spouse: N/A Father: Charles E. Krives Birthplace: England Mother: Louisa Forsbrey Birthplace: England Cause of Death and contributing: pneumonitis; pulmonary fibrosis; chest deformity since birth Dr.: George Thompson, Monterey Length of treatment: 9/22/1967 - 12/18/1979 Funeral Home: Paul Mortuary Disposition and Date: Cremation 1/25/1979; not embalmed Cemetery: The Little Chapel-by-the-Sea, Pacific Grove, California Informant: Nellie McAlpine, niece; 216 Crocker Avenue, Pacific Grove, Calif. 93950 --Sheila P. In a message dated 4/11/00 3:51:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, norby@ainet.com writes: > > From the CA Death Index: > MCALPINE NELLIE LOUISE > born 10/29/1922 > mother's maiden name KRIVES > bp MI died Monterey county 07/30/1990 ss362284246 age 67 > > KRIVES LOUISE > 08/30/1897 > 2RE Monterey county 01/24/1979 ss383051298 age 81 > > MCALPINE ALICE C > 11/22/1898 > 2RE Santa Cruz county 07/05/1977 ss368120417 age 78 > > > If you need clarification on any point, please include the previous message > in your response. > > Colleen Norby > Rootsweb sponsor > > ø,¸¸,ø*°´°*ø,¸¸,ø*°´°*ø,¸¸,ø*°´°*ø,¸¸,ø*°´°*ø,¸¸,ø > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tessa Solomon <tsolomon60@hotmail.com> > To: CAMONTER-L@rootsweb.com <CAMONTER-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 9:28 AM > Subject: [CAMONTER] COUSINS? > > > >Posted on: Monterey County Queries > >Board URL: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ca/Monterey?read=274 > > > >Surname: KRIVES, McALPINE > >------------------------- > > > >Searching for American Cousins - willing to submit geneology > >information (once gathered) > >I discovered two sisters, Louise Krives (born 8-30-1897 in London England) > >Alice Krives McAlpine (born 11-22-1898 London). > >Lived in Detroit Michigan where father (Charles) operated a Bakery. Their > >mother - Louisa Forsbrey was my father's aunt. > > > >Alice's daughter - Nellie served in WWII as a librarian and visited London > >Relatives (my father's sisters Lou and Gladys Touchard). > > > >SSN death notices show Louise died Jan 1979 and Alice Jul 1977 in Monterey > >zip 93950. Would appreciate any obits. or clues to living relatives. I'm > >living in Texas now and would like write/contact. Found a Nellie McAlpine > >born 10-29-1922, died 30 Jul 1990 who might be Alice's daughter. > > > >Willing to compensate for research. > > >

Hi Everyone, Sometime back I saw requests for information about the McMenamin surname. THe following excerpts appeared in today's [Friday, April 14, 2000] "The Monterey County Herald": Actor Emmett dies in N.Y. Born McMenamin in Monterey, his wife was also an actress Robert EMMETT, born Robert McMENAMIN and known during his screen and stage career as Bob Emmett, died Satrday, April 8, after surgery for acute appendicitas at St. Vincent's Hospital in New York City. He was 78. At the time of his death, Emmett lived with his wife, the actress Kim Hunter … in the Greenwich Village apartment they occupied since the birth of their son, Sean, in 1954. They were married in 1951, after meeting as actors in the road company of "Two Blind Mice," starring Melvyn Douglas. A playwright and actor with many television credits, Emmett is perhaps best known as the head writer for the 1962-63 Emmy award-winning satirical television news show "That Was The Week That Was." The son of former Monterey Mayor and longtime Monterey County clerk, Emmett McMenamin, he was born Sept. 28, 1921, in Monterey. … …In changing his name for the theater he chose his fsther's first name as his surname, something his brother GEORGE had done when he was in radio. … Emmett is survived by his wife, Kim Hunter; two children, Kathryn and Sean emmett, both of Stamford, Conn.; six grandchildren; and a brother, Emmett McMenamin Jr. of Del Ray Oaks [CA]. NOTE: The obituary details Emmett's entire educational, military, and professional career. If anyone is interested in the entire obituary, with photo, let me know. Hope this helps someone, Anita C. Monterey County

Tessa: I can check for obits for all three. The Monterey ones will be earlier than the one in Santa Cruz. Will let you know what I find. --Sheila P. In a message dated 4/11/00 3:51:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, norby@ainet.com writes: > From the CA Death Index: > MCALPINE NELLIE LOUISE > born 10/29/1922 > mother's maiden name KRIVES > bp MI died Monterey county 07/30/1990 ss362284246 age 67 > > KRIVES LOUISE > 08/30/1897 > 2RE Monterey county 01/24/1979 ss383051298 age 81 > > MCALPINE ALICE C > 11/22/1898 > 2RE Santa Cruz county 07/05/1977 ss368120417 age 78 > > The location of death listed above is the COUNTY of death. To determine the > CITY of death you will need to order the death certificate or find a > volunteer to transcribe the information at the county recorder's office. > Here's the info site for CA vital records: http://vitalrec.com/ca.html Make > sure you visit the link for the county of death listed - quite often it's > much faster to deal with the county for a copy of the death certificate than > it is with the state. If you do order from the state, fax your order. It's > the fastest way to get the certificate and you can order up to 5 > certificates for the $7.00 credit card surcharge. > > PLEASE check out the SSDI if a soc. sec. number appears in the death listing > above http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi > If you find a social security number listed that matches, PLEASE use the > Post-em feature in the right column to share the information from the CADI > so others may have access to the data also. You can leave any other > information at this site and maybe someone will contact you. (The password > is something you create so no one can edit your entry) > > If you need clarification on any point, please include the previous message > in your response. > > Colleen Norby > Rootsweb sponsor > > ø,¸¸,ø*°´°*ø,¸¸,ø*°´°*ø,¸¸,ø*°´°*ø,¸¸,ø*°´°*ø,¸¸,ø > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tessa Solomon <tsolomon60@hotmail.com> > To: CAMONTER-L@rootsweb.com <CAMONTER-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 9:28 AM > Subject: [CAMONTER] COUSINS? > > > >Posted on: Monterey County Queries > >Board URL: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ca/Monterey?read=274 > > > >Surname: KRIVES, McALPINE > >------------------------- > > > >Searching for American Cousins - willing to submit geneology > >information (once gathered) > >I discovered two sisters, Louise Krives (born 8-30-1897 in London England) > >Alice Krives McAlpine (born 11-22-1898 London). > >Lived in Detroit Michigan where father (Charles) operated a Bakery. Their > >mother - Louisa Forsbrey was my father's aunt. > > > >Alice's daughter - Nellie served in WWII as a librarian and visited London > >Relatives (my father's sisters Lou and Gladys Touchard). > > > >SSN death notices show Louise died Jan 1979 and Alice Jul 1977 in Monterey > >zip 93950. Would appreciate any obits. or clues to living relatives. I'm > >living in Texas now and would like write/contact. Found a Nellie McAlpine > >born 10-29-1922, died 30 Jul 1990 who might be Alice's daughter. > > > >Willing to compensate for research. > > >

Friends, My great aunt Elaine CARTER (1907-1993) and her mother, (Marie) Louise RICE CARTER (1876-1945) lived in Carmel in the 1930's and 1940's, and perhaps as early as the late 20's. Elaine worked for the post office, and may have been postmistress there toward the end of that time. Elaine married George O'NEIL and they moved to Camas, WA, near Portland, OR, after some time in Chicago. I think Elaine may also have been a waitress in and around Carmel. She was a bright and interesting woman; I only got to know her in 1975. I would love to know more about them if there is anyone here who might know of them. Wyn (Wyneth Carter Achenbaum) Researching these combinations: CARTER, RICE, LUCKE, HUNTER, SAUNDERS, LANIER, RAGSDALE (Virginia); ORR, PURVIS, HUTCHINSON, GOETSCHIUS (Scotland/Ireland to NYC area); TOWNSEND, RICE, JONES, WRIGHT, SCHALK/SCHAULK, HENSEL (NYS?) KUHN, HEISEY, STATLER, LEITER, BREWBACKER, BRUBAKER, OMMERT, BRANDT (Pennsylvania); HOLMES, DOWNS, WERTZ, HALL, SINNIGEN, POORMAN, PFAUTZ (Pennsylvania); MAINE, TOLLAND, KNIGHT, HEATHCOTE (Pennsylvania); ACHENBAUM, DVORIN; (Russia/Poland to NYC area) BICKING, BALTZ; (Philadelphia area) TREDWAY/TREADWAY, JOHNSON, GILLIAM (Virginia) ...enough to keep me busy! mailto:wyn@ibm.net or mailto:wyna@home.com

>From the CA Death Index: MCALPINE NELLIE LOUISE born 10/29/1922 mother's maiden name KRIVES bp MI died Monterey county 07/30/1990 ss362284246 age 67 KRIVES LOUISE 08/30/1897 2RE Monterey county 01/24/1979 ss383051298 age 81 MCALPINE ALICE C 11/22/1898 2RE Santa Cruz county 07/05/1977 ss368120417 age 78 The location of death listed above is the COUNTY of death. To determine the CITY of death you will need to order the death certificate or find a volunteer to transcribe the information at the county recorder's office. Here's the info site for CA vital records: http://vitalrec.com/ca.html Make sure you visit the link for the county of death listed - quite often it's much faster to deal with the county for a copy of the death certificate than it is with the state. If you do order from the state, fax your order. It's the fastest way to get the certificate and you can order up to 5 certificates for the $7.00 credit card surcharge. PLEASE check out the SSDI if a soc. sec. number appears in the death listing above http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi If you find a social security number listed that matches, PLEASE use the Post-em feature in the right column to share the information from the CADI so others may have access to the data also. You can leave any other information at this site and maybe someone will contact you. (The password is something you create so no one can edit your entry) If you need clarification on any point, please include the previous message in your response. Colleen Norby Rootsweb sponsor ø,¸¸,ø*°´°*ø,¸¸,ø*°´°*ø,¸¸,ø*°´°*ø,¸¸,ø*°´°*ø,¸¸,ø -----Original Message----- From: Tessa Solomon <tsolomon60@hotmail.com> To: CAMONTER-L@rootsweb.com <CAMONTER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 9:28 AM Subject: [CAMONTER] COUSINS? >Posted on: Monterey County Queries >Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ca/Monterey?read=274 > >Surname: KRIVES, McALPINE >------------------------- > >Searching for American Cousins - willing to submit geneology >information (once gathered) >I discovered two sisters, Louise Krives (born 8-30-1897 in London England) >Alice Krives McAlpine (born 11-22-1898 London). >Lived in Detroit Michigan where father (Charles) operated a Bakery. Their >mother - Louisa Forsbrey was my father's aunt. > >Alice's daughter - Nellie served in WWII as a librarian and visited London >Relatives (my father's sisters Lou and Gladys Touchard). > >SSN death notices show Louise died Jan 1979 and Alice Jul 1977 in Monterey >zip 93950. Would appreciate any obits. or clues to living relatives. I'm >living in Texas now and would like write/contact. Found a Nellie McAlpine >born 10-29-1922, died 30 Jul 1990 who might be Alice's daughter. > >Willing to compensate for research. >

Posted on: Monterey County Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ca/Monterey?read=274 Surname: KRIVES, McALPINE ------------------------- Searching for American Cousins - willing to submit geneology information (once gathered) I discovered two sisters, Louise Krives (born 8-30-1897 in London England) Alice Krives McAlpine (born 11-22-1898 London). Lived in Detroit Michigan where father (Charles) operated a Bakery. Their mother - Louisa Forsbrey was my father's aunt. Alice's daughter - Nellie served in WWII as a librarian and visited London Relatives (my father's sisters Lou and Gladys Touchard). SSN death notices show Louise died Jan 1979 and Alice Jul 1977 in Monterey zip 93950. Would appreciate any obits. or clues to living relatives. I'm living in Texas now and would like write/contact. Found a Nellie McAlpine born 10-29-1922, died 30 Jul 1990 who might be Alice's daughter. Willing to compensate for research.

Posted on: Monterey County Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ca/Monterey?read=273 Surname: HILL, PECK, DICKENSON ------------------------- I have a printed copy of the biograpy of "Hon. W. J. HILL" printed in "Biographical Notices of Residents" in "History of Monterey County, California, 1881". Perhaps this biography is familiar to our host. Per the biography: "W. J. HILL is the editor and proprietor of the Salinas Index, and present State Senator from the Sixth Senatorial District, embracing Monterey, Santa Cruz, and San Benito counties. He is of Scotch parentage, and was born on the farm of his father, John HILL, near Prescott, Canada West, in the year 1840. He is the eldest of 10 sons and 3 daughters, all of whom, together with his parents are still alive. He came to California by water in 1862, arriving in San Francisco in April of that year. He went to the Cariboo (B.C.) mines and penetrated the wilds of Alaska the same summer, returning to California in the fall." "...his wife being Miss Belle PECK, the first child of American parents born at Stockton...whose grandfather, the late Col. G. D. DICKENSON, in 1847, erected in the town of Monterey the first brick house ever built in California." "They have one child, a bright little boy of seven summers..." I will send a copy to anyone who gives me their snail mail address to mail it to.

Posted on: Monterey County Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ca/Monterey?read=272 Surname: McKINNON, HEBBRON, WALKER, SOTO ------------------------- I have a printed copy of "Biographical Notices of Residents" from "History of Monterey California, 1881". The biography is of "Duncan McKINNON, born in York Co., Canada West, June 15, 1836. His parents were natives of Scotland, and had emigrated from there in May, 1835." I will mail a copy to whomever gives me a snail mail address to send it to. The biography includes Duncan McKINNON's travel to British Columbia hoping to strike it rich in gold mining, his falling ill with smallpox, the threat of murder by Indians falling victim to the imported disease, a return to Canada to a changed home. Per the biography: Duncan McKINNON eventually settled in Monterey Co. with his brother, Anthony, on a parcel rented from J. M. SOTO's Santa Rita Rancho in 1867. By 1874 with the knowledge of farming gained on their mother's farm in Canada after their father's death, the brothers bought 1100 acres of the Sausal ranch for $60,000. The biography states: Alice Maud HEBBRON was 2nd daughter of Mr. & Mrs. J. R. HEBBRON of Natividad, Monterey Co., formerly of London, England. On Jan. 1, 1877, Alice married Duncan McKINNON and on that date at the same place Miss Ida C. HEBBRON, eldest daughter of Mr. & Mrs. J. R. HEBBRON, married J. M. WALKER of Canada. Per the biography by the year of print: Children born to Duncan and Alice McKINNON: Duncan Florent McKINNON born Dec. 6, 1877 and William Elmer McKINNON born May 12, 1880

Posted on: Monterey County Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ca/Monterey?read=269 Surname: Gomes ------------------------- Please give me some info on Gomes. Where are you form. Any where in E. Tauton, or W. Tauton, or Tauton, MA. Thanx for your help.

Hi Rich, I checked the Bradley telephone directory and there is no cemetery listed. That does not mean that there might not be a cemetery, just that it is not listed in the phone book. Monterey County has a lot of little cemeteries known only to the locals. I would suggest calling the Bradley Post Office at 1-831-472-2377. Most of the little post offices in the county are run by long time county residents. They are usually very knowledgable about their local area. Another possible source of localized information is the Bradley Branch Library at 1-831-472-9407. Again, the library staff would be local residents and would know if there is/was a cemetery in the Bradley area, and what happened to it, if anything. Between those two sources, you might even be able to connect up with someone who remembers your ancestors, where they lived, etc. Many South County residents have been there for generations, often on the land their ancestors originally homesteaded. Hope this helps, Anita C. Monterey County Dorman wrote: > > I am new to the list. I am trying to find burial site of Charles Hagan (d > 1898) and Sarah Kilborn Hagan (d Dec 1902). Obituary for Sarah said she was > to be buried by Charles' side in Bradley, Monterey Co. To my knowledge, > there is no cemetary in Bradley. Have looked in San Miguel, San Lucas, San > Ardo and even Paso Robles with no luck. I have heard rumors of a cemetary > that was in Pleyto and maybe moved when San Antonio Lake was made. I live > in So. Calif. and can only visit area once or twice a year so internet is my > main source of information. > > Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > Rich Dorman