This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VW.2ADE/979.1 Message Board Post: Patti, Birdie B. & Elaine both died in San Francisco Co's..it would be faster to order the death cert's..this should give more information on where to search for an obituary...Here's a link on how/where to order a dc........Hope this helps....Alma http://www.vitalrec.com/ca.html Birdie B. Swords died: April 16, 1938 age: 46 yrs sp: JS ? County of death: (90) San Francisco Co. EICHMAN ELAINE DOROTHY 01/09/1918 VANCE SWORDS F ARKANSAS SAN FRANCISCO(38) 09/12/1997 556-05-5241 79 yrs EICHMAN JOHN RAYMOND 1942 09 29 SWORDS MALE SAN FRANCISCO EICHMAN STEPHEN ROY 1945 10 28 SWORDS MALE SAN FRANCISCO