This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VW.2ADE/976.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Your an angel for trying to help me it is greatly appreciated. I believe it was a museum I visited you had to go up a lot of steps. Anyway it was in the MERCED SUN-STAR. She made headlines on March 28, 29 and front page on the 30th. At first they said it was an accident than a grand jury was called upon and referred to it as a possible murder. I couldn't find any results oif the grand jury. It also said she was a singer but I never knew that I was told a waitress. It's all very baffling to me. Helen

Ralph, The San Joaquin Valley Argus 1870--1890 was the only newspaper that covered Merced area in that time period. I can check next week for Addison Ostrander. Sometimes the Mariposa newspapers covered events in Merced Co, you can search William Disbrow's database at the Mariposa GenWeb........Alma William Disbrow's Vital Database http://www.cagenweb.com/mariposa/ 04/26/2002 8:32:42 AM Pacific Daylight Time, RClouse2@aol.com writes: << Addison OSTRANDER d. 5 Oct 1872, Plainsburg, Merced Co. The Merced Co. papers here in Sacramento do not go back that far so I'm hoping someone could provide me with a death notice/obit (including name of paper, date, page/column number)...please. I'll be happy to cover costs or do lookups here in exchange. Thank you for your assistance. Ralph Clouse, Sacramento >>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VW.2ADE/976.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Made a few phone call's..First to the Coroner, their records only go back to 1948. I spoke to the Co. Recorder to see if the State would have more information on the circumstances of the cause of death and she said no. I called Sarah at the Merced Courthouse Museum, explaining I was looking for any records from the Co. Coroner that would include "Inquiry Autopsy" to the cause of death...when she gets a free moment she'll check...probably within a week or so. I didn't call Ivers and Alcorn, I'm sure there records would only contain a copy of the death cert and information pertaining to her funeral.. What was the name of the newspaper you found the article in?, I'll check a few weeks past her death date....Wish I could have found more......Alma

Addison OSTRANDER d. 5 Oct 1872, Plainsburg, Merced Co. The Merced Co. papers here in Sacramento do not go back that far so I'm hoping someone could provide me with a death notice/obit (including name of paper, date, page/column number)...please. I'll be happy to cover costs or do lookups here in exchange. Thank you for your assistance. Ralph Clouse, Sacramento

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VW.2ADE/976.1.1 Message Board Post: Yes I have her death certificate and it states "Inquiry Autopsy" 5 degree burns. The newspaper article dated March 28, 1939 suggests the sheriff thought it could be murder related. I was only there a weekend and wanted to cover as much ground as possible so didn't go much farther in the newspaper files. I did go to the Funeral Home, Ivers and Alcorn. A nice gentleman, small with a hunch back, helped me. He was looking for Eberhardt when in fact her name was Myers. When he reread the newspaper and found the name Myers he said he was too small and couldn't reach the files so he would send some one else to look. It took a women no more than five minutes to come and tell me she couldn't find anything. I did rewrite them after my return, and enclosed a self addressed envelope with no reply. Yes I know, the Historical Society was nice and explained their difficulty and did say records I needed were probaly in storage with no help to find them for me. Yes I know this is a long shot but no one in the family ever talked about my Mother or anything actually. I just feel I need to know.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VW.2ADE/977 Message Board Post: Thank you for your time/and the phone of superior courts number. They said they have the info. on 1888 on microfilm. I dont mind waiting if you have a busy week regards checking it out. I dont know the logistics of "your territory" so to speak...and will write them etc. if I need to. Regards, Carol

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: COYLE, LONGMIRE Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VW.2ADE/974.1.1 Message Board Post: Alma, Thank you so much for your fast work! Reuben is on the 1870 census in both Merced Co. (with "Mad Longmire") and also in Stanislaus Co. (with his children who returned home to Oregon). In 1880, he is in Merced Co. with wife "Magden" and her daughter Sarah Longmire. Then in 1900 "Madura Coyle" is a widow in Merced Co. Thus I am presuming too that they were married between 1870 and 1880 but am unsure as to what county. No one I can find knows when or where he died other than the rumor that he died in central California. I did find a book that said he died in January 1888 but what county I don't know and I don't know if that's correct or not. I'm hoping perhaps Merced or Stanislaus counties or at least that's a start. I'm glad you were able to find Madura. I've looked in the AOL yellow pages and is that Turlock Memorial Park? I was hoping that Reuben would be where ever she was. Oh well. This morning I asked for a look-up for DCT and obit on Madura in Stanislaus and whether there was one for Reuben in Merced or Stanislaus. That's a good idea to try to find one on Sylvester too. However I posted it on the NORCAL mailing list which was probably the wrong place? Guess I'll give it some time and then try the link you gave me if I don't hear anything. Can't tell you how much I appreciate your help! It's hard to ask for look-ups when I can't do anything for you in return. But many thanks and will hear from you next week if you find anything else as you said. Erika

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VW.2ADE/976.1 Message Board Post: Do you have a copy of her death cert? if so, does it mention anything about an inquest or coroners finding's?? Have you checked the Funeral Home that handled the arraignments ?, I've found them to be a good source of info, especially if the death was suspicious in nature. Searching for information that far back is difficult, most records are stored, destroyed or lost. The Historical Society is a great group they simply don't have enough man power or room for all the records they have. If you can give me more information as I mentioned above I'll see what I can find.......Alma

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VW.2ADE/974.1 Message Board Post: Erika, Here's what I found on Sylvester and Madura from the CADeath index. Sylvester Longmire d. Sept 29, 1936 age 60 or 80 yrs...it was hard to read Spouse int. L.J. or L.E. /hard to read Co of death. {50) Stanislaus Co. State File # 57314 Madura L. Coyle d. Feb 24, 1923 age. 86 yrs sp int....none Co of death. (50) Stanislaus Co. State File # 10105 Do you think Rueben died between 1880 - 1900 in Merced Co..?. She's listed as Mad Longmire in the 1870 census in the household of R.C. Coyle...so if they married it had to be between 1870-1880... I can check for a marriage record on these two...also check to see if he has a death cert on file at the recorders office. I called Merced Dist., Evergreen Memorial, Winton Dist., and Turlock Cemetery's, found Madura in the latter..but no Rueben or Sylvester. Have you tried to find obit's on Madura & Sylvester? they may give you some clues on Rueben. Here's a link for Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness Volunteer's http://www.raogk.org/californ3.htm I'll get back next week with any info I find....Alma

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BENEKER, BEAVER, TIPTON, GARCIA THOME, FETTER Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VW.2ADE/967.2.1 Message Board Post: Hi Alma, You did just fine! Many thanks for all that you did find. It really helps a lot... even if it raises several more questions. But, that's one of the rules of genealogy. The different spellings of the names are something I've found a lot of, from the DC's, birth records, Census; all of those names appear variously from time to time, and not always chronologically but whimsically. It makes for a very interesting family story. What's REALLY interesting is that this was a very close-knit family group, with couples divorcing and re-marrying each other's brothers and sisters.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VW.2ADE/976 Message Board Post: I have always been curious about my mother's death so last year I made a trip to Merced to seeif I could find out anything. Well she made the front page of the newspaper. I went all over trying to find out who, what or anything re; her death to no avail. I NEED to know why she died March 28, 1938 with 5 degree burns from a fire in Stevinson, Ca. The paper stated it could be murder but I couldn't find anything further re; this. I went to the historical society and they said they were to short staffed to help because all the fills are in storage and no personell to help. Can someone tell me what I can do next. Any help will be greatfully accepted. Thank you Helen

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VW.2ADE/967.2 Message Board Post: Hi Ed..didn't have that much sucess..I transcribed all that I could find..You'll note the different spellings of the names..Alma >From the Book of Marriages.. Book C., page 54 Marriage date: April 30, 1886 John Francisco Narcisson Native of Azores Islands Aged: 25 yrs Resident of Los Banos, Merced Co., CA Frida Rodemer Native of Germany Aged: 25 yrs Resident of Los Banos, Merced Co., CA Witnesses; Joseph M. Vieria, resident of Merced Co. E.W. Stockird, resident of Merced Co. Marriage performed by: N. Breen, Justice of the Peace. Filed for record at request of Jos. M. Vieria this 30th day of April A.D. 1886, at 30 min. past 2 o'clock p.m. and recorded in Book C of Marriage Certificates, at page 54. J.G. Elliott, County Recorder ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Marriage Record. Book D., page 545 Marriage date: Feb 19, 1902 F.W. Beneker Native of Cailf. Age: 22 yrs Resident of Merced Maggie Williams Native of Calif. Age: 16 yrs. Resident of Merced Marriage performed by: Rev. W. T. Goulder ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Marriage Record. Book 9, page 89 Marriage date: Feb 8, 1937 John Narcisso Resident of Volta, CA Age: 34 yrs. Color/Race: White Birthplace: CA Single, first marriage Occupation: Laborer Father: John Narcisso, Portugal Mother: Freda Kramer, Germany Maiden name of Bride if she was previously married: Adeline Trovao Adeline Vierra Resident of Gustine, CA Age: 22 yrs Widowed, second marriage Birthplace: CA Occupation: At home Father: Joe M. Trovao, Azores Islands Mother: Mary Freitas, Azores Islands Witness: Frank A. Silva Jr. Person performing the Ceremony: E.H. Huebbers, Roman Catholic Priest, residence; Gustine. Filed Feb 9, 1937, J.C. Ivers County Recorder

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VW.2ADE/975.1 Message Board Post: Jeff, was Maude a resident of Merced Co.? If not here's link for RAOGK volunteers in San Joaquin Co., they may be able to help you get a copy of her obituary. If she was a resident of Merced Co. let me know and I'll check for you........Alma Random Acts of Gentle Kindness Volunteer's http://www.raogk.org/californ3.htm Last Name First Name Middle Birth Date Mother Maiden Father Last Sex Birth Place Death Place Residence Death Date SSN Age POWELL MAUDE HAZEL 11/15/1882 BUSBURG LOUTH F OHIO SAN JOAQUIN 06/25/1953 70 yrs

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Powell Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VW.2ADE/975 Message Board Post: I am searching for any information on Maude (Louth) Powell, who passed away in San Joaquin, CA June 25, 1953. Would love copy of obit. Thanks Jeff

Dear Senator Fitzgerald: As you know, Senate Bill 2039 for approval to expand O'Hare International Airport in Chicago, will also approve the destruction of two historic cemeteries known as St. John' Church Cemetery and the Methodist cemetery known as Rest Haven. I applaud your efforts to help save these places of eternal rest from the horrendous task of relocation that will disrupt that rest. I am a resident of California. My family came here in 1850 with the Gold Rush. They came here from Illinois. California also seems to believe that eternal rest is not truly eternal for, in the past several years, many cemeteries have been destroyed or adversely impacted by projects of modern devise. Much of the nation, as a whole, seems to be experiencing the same dilemma, as is apparent by emails and postings to the internet. In 1961, the California Appellate Court ruled against the Superior Court, the California Dept. of Transportation and the Federal Highway Administration in their efforts to approve the eminent domain taking of a portion of Eden Memorial Park Cemetery for the construction of the Santa Monica freeway in Los Angeles County. The Court ruled that a highway served no better public purpose than a cemetery. I would opine the same should apply to the expansion of the airport. On September 11th, 2001, the families of over 2,800 people lost loved ones in the worst attack the nation has ever known. Those families, Senator Fitzgerald, will never have a grave to visit to help them through their loss. In years to come, those families cannot take the next generation of their family to visit grandparents those children will never know. September 11th stole more than just their lives. It stole the tangible evidence of their very existence. That, Senator Fitzgerald, is what cemeteries are all about. Cemeteries are not just for the dead. They are for the living; so that we may always have a place to visit, to "talk" with our deceased loved ones, to share our happiness and our sorrows, and to continue the memories of those who have been lost to us. Senate Bill 2039, will not only cause the destruction of St. John's and Rest Haven, but will cause untold emotional anguish for the many living descendants of those persons now buried there. I would encourage you to continue your discourse regarding the adversity this expansion plan will thrust upon the dead and the living. This nation cannot continue to thrust aside the last homes of our nation's pioneering citizenry as if their value is less in death than it was in life. Respectfully, Sue Silver, President El Dorado County Pioneer Cemeteries Commission a California 501(3)(c) Non-Profit Public Benefit Corporation 2551 Deer Trail Lane Cameron Park, CA 95682 (530) 676-2889 Email: ssilver1951@jps.net Member, California Historic Cemetery Alliance Sexton, El Dorado Cemetery (est. 1849), El Dorado Co., California

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: COYLE, LONGMIRE Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VW.2ADE/974 Message Board Post: Seeking any information on these people: Reuben COYLE - on the 1870 and 1880 Merced Co. census and wife Madura LONGMIRE. I believe she is the mother of Sylvester LONGMIRE who is on Merced Co. 1900 census. Any information at all would be most appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VW.2ADE/973.1 Message Board Post: Hi Carol, Here's the number for the Superior Courts Clerk office 385-7532.. I can check first at the Merced Co. Courthouse Museum to see if they have the book for Aug 6, 1888..I've not had very good sucess in finding the earlier records at the Clerks office. I have jury duty this week, but will try as soon as I can........Alma

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VW.2ADE/967.1 Message Board Post: Ed..there on my list, can't promise I'll be able to get these this week I have "jury duty", it'll depend on if I'm selected.. Get back to you as soon as possible.....Alma

>Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 18:31:49 -0700 >To: Lists >From: "Donna@MBS" <mbs@inland.net> >Subject: Pre-1905 Update > >Hi all; >It has been a while since we had an update and I want all of you to know what is going on with the site. > >First of all, we have a new webmaster, Aaron Everett, who has been working on fixing all the tables on the site for Netscape users not to have the overlapping lines and columns. This is taking some time due to the size of the files and the amount of information. Aaron has also been talking about giving the site a whole new look, but we have to give him some time. So you can figure out where Aaron fits into the picture, he is the Son-in-law of Steve and Laura Melton and is a computer specialist in Redmond, Washington. He comes with really good recommendations so we will have to see what he does on the site. > >When he has all the files fixed, the following will be what is currently scheduled to be online (after all the files are reformatted). There will be all or part of the following counties: > >Amador >Butte >Colusa >Del Norte >Fresno >Humboldt >Kern >Lake >Los Angeles >Madera >Marin >Mariposa >Modoc >Monterey >Nevada >Placer >Riverside >San Benito >San Bernardino >San Diego >San Francisco >San Luis Obispo >Santa Barbara >Shasta >Sutter >Tehama > >When you visit the website at http://www.rootsweb.com/~cabf1905 you will note that there are other counties currently in trancription. More records for the above counties are also still in transcription. > >Furthermore, we have discovered that there just might be some El Dorado records out there that did not get burned in the fire. We are currently working toward accessing those and will keep you posted. > >Donations for the project and funding for the outstanding counties is still deperately needed. Whatever you can do to help cam be sent to me and will be greatly appreciated. > >PLEASE, be patient with the improvements on the files online. We are working as fast as we can and will keep you posted on how we care coming. > >Thanks for your patience, understanding and support. >Donna Bradley >Project Coordinator >Pre-1905 Project >P. O. Box 391368 >Anza, CA 92539-1368 >http://www.rootsweb.com/~cabf1905 > > >Mendocino

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Noble Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VW.2ADE/973 Message Board Post: I would like full info. that is recorded regards my great-grandfather. John Noble father of Cornelius Noble in Madera, Ca. According to many of the early records it is listed that Naturalization was in 1888,August 6. in Merced.I was going to phone call this request but did'nt find any correct phone number.Request is for John Noble..born in Scotland in 1862(that may or may not be exact date). Thank you for your work....is it Alma? Regards, Carol Fleming