J.R. NORRIS, G-GF of our dear friend, the late Bob Norris, was also with the Benj. Hayes party although "ole J.R." and some others "split off" somewhere along the trail. See an EXCERPT from one of Bob's 1998 postings to CA-GOLDRUSH List below. Bob probably (?) made other postings about the Hayes' group which should be (?) archived on the GOLDRUSH LIST. Emerson Shipe Seneca, SC On 13 Oct 00 at 1:10, KatieGoff@aol.com wrote: > Those of the other company were Messrs. J. G. Ridge, J. J. Hampton, > T. Truebody,......................................., >....................... > Bradley, J. H. Smith, J. RICHARD NORRIS, J. Houston (of Clinton Co., > Mo.), Dr. Wm. C. Laurence, T. Smiley Harris, Thos. Clark, B. Keizer, > J. B. Shields, ........................... Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 17:44:53 EDT From: BNorris166@aol.com To: CA-GOLDRUSH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CA-GOLDRUSH-L] The Pima Indian Villages - Apache Pass Southern.Trail - 1849 Howdy, I'll probably have another Southern Mines post from 49er diarist Bernard Reid's letters in 1850. But, I first would like to share a sorta cute account in the 1849 diary of nineteen year old, Robert ECCLESTON, a member of the FREMONT Association, while traveling the little used APACHE PASS Trail to CA in 1849. Supposedly, his is the only known diary of the Apache Pass Southern Trail - the others being about the more popular 1). Southern - Chihuahua - Guadalupe Pass Trail and the 2). Gila River - Kearny/Kit Carson - my ggf Trail:-). Back in May, I posted an 1846 account of the Pima Villages in present day Arizona - apparently at the juncture of all the Southern Trails to CA.. At the time I questioned how the goldrushers three years later would change these delightful people. I especially thank RUTH>ruth4527@pacbell.net who sent portions of the ECCLESTON trail diary, as well as CINDY<lobuglio@thegrid.net> whose library a week or so later also secured a copy. We join our 19 year old diarist Robert ECCLESTON on November 19, 1849 as he writes about the "Pimos" as he calls them. (I emphasize his age and the date because my 20 year old great-grandfather, J.R.Norris, with a company split from diarist Judge Benj.HAYES' party, probably arrived at the Pima Indian Vilages only a couple of weeks later). .......................................................... . . Bob Norris in Dallas <BNorris166aol.com>