Listers, I am still here. We set upp another pc for my use ( not the kids') and now it is fried, so we are back to sharing a pc..... I am going to get those indices done, I swear I am! If someone wants to come help the kid with his geometry I could get the indexing done alot faster :-). Does anyone really care about flow and proofs anyways? Births, deaths and naturalizations are far more important......... Melanie Mariposa County, California Home to HORNITOS and YoSemite National Prison