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    1. [CAMARIPO] MARY ELLEN HOGAN GRISWOLD
    2. Carolyn Feroben
    3. Centennial Edition- Mariposa Gazette Mary Ellen HOGAN GRISWOLD, 86, born on the old HOGAN Ranch, now Breunner Meadows , a sister to Lucy Hite. Her entire life has been spent in Mariposa County, excepting for a few trips to Merced and Madera. (a nice photo of Mary Ellen also) Sharon, for you of course! Carolyn

    07/28/2001 07:59:04
    1. Re: [CAMARIPO] MARY ELLEN HOGAN GRISWOLD
    2. rubyslippers
    3. Thank you Carolyn. The problem I have with so many of these relationships is that they are often l/2 sisters and I'm trying so hard to match them all up with parents that are known. Wasn't Maria (Ydrte/Lebrado) also a l/2 sister to Lucy? Mary Johnson Wilson was suppose to be a l/2 sister, sister or cousin to Lena Rube. I have begun to try to figure this out by moiety. The Miwok did not have names for aunts or uncles...those were foreign concepts which may have been acquired later by generations trained in white thinking. They had no concept of or label for "in laws".Marriage/breeding was controlled by their philosophy of duality and marrying outside their totem of land or water. You followed/were the totem of your father, not your mother and you married the opposite. If a woman's husband died, his brother was obligated to marry her. If a man's wife died, he married her sister or another kin of hers. An ideal union was with the daughter of your mother's brother. But you couldn't marry the daughter of your father's brother because she had the same totem as you. Here's the problem for those of you that haven't passed out..... Your mother dies, your aunt becomes your Mother (we would call it "step" they don't) The children of your aunt (cousins) now become your brothers and sisters. An appropriate mate might at this point be what is currently one of these brothers and sisters. Their system is based purely on consanquity...blood relationship...whereas we think in terms of in-laws and non-blood relationships and would term a lot of the relationships that went on as incest. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Feroben" <sweetwater@sierratel.com> To: <CAMARIPO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 1:59 PM Subject: [CAMARIPO] MARY ELLEN HOGAN GRISWOLD > Centennial Edition- Mariposa Gazette > > Mary Ellen HOGAN GRISWOLD, 86, born on the old HOGAN Ranch, now Breunner > Meadows , a sister to Lucy Hite. Her entire life has been spent in > Mariposa County, excepting for a few trips to Merced and Madera. > (a nice photo of Mary Ellen also) > > Sharon, for you of course! > Carolyn > > > ==== CAMARIPO Mailing List ==== > This is a flame-free area!! >

    07/28/2001 10:28:32