July 18, 2001: Spoke with Adrienne Alston, Archivist for Catholic Diocese of Fresno (559/488-7499). She advised no records for Indian Gulch Cemetery are there. IF they exist, they could be in the Archdiocese of San Francisco, Sacramento or Sonora. Mariposa was at one time in each of these diocese. The church didn’t keep all names of deaths. Only those receiving the last sacrament. The church kept sacramental records, not vital records. Even though most of these very rural areas had a church building, there was no parish. Usually the priest living in Sonora came through and would conduct baptisms, etc. and then go back to Sonora and make record of them in a book. Where these books are is anybody’s guess. Anyone calling any diocese besides Fresno will be told they are in Fresno because Mariposa is now part of the Diocese of Fresno – but was not then. Adrienne is going to send me some “very sketchy” historical data regarding the church in Mariposa during that time. When this is received, I will be glad to send a copy to anyone who is interested. Adrienne also suggested calling Rebecca Greer, Fresno County Historical Society, at 559/438-7629. She has compiled a list of burials in Fresno and may know of someone who has done the same for Mariposa. I spoke with Rebecca and she didn’t know of any person who had compiled such a list. BUT, she did suggest the Calif Cemeteries site, which she thought was through Rootsweb. It seems that I quite some time ago had gone into a Calif Cemetery site. She said this site has grown tremendously. Might be worth a try. Anyway, now you know all I know!!! **Beverly

Greetings, If this is a Catholic Cemetery, then perhaps you need to look up deeds in your recorders office. The Church took title in one of two ways...the first being that a local land owner executed a deed to the local priest in that priest's name, then he later deeded it to the Archbishop, Joseph Sadoc Alemany (and all it's various spellings such as Alameny, etc.), or the Archbishop accepted the deed in his name initially. If this is where an early Catholic church was and the community dwindled sufficiently before the federal goverment surveys were completed, the Church probably ceased being used and Alemany did not file for a federal land patent on the land where the church and cemetery were located. This instance has occurred in many locations throughout and up and down the Mother Lode region. When the attendance at the churches dwindled so that not enough was being received in tithes, they just walked away from it. I have put in a request to see if Archbishop Alemany lists this location as a place where he dedicated a church in the early years. If you don't know the name of the early priest and the deed is not in Alemany's name, check "Hallowed Were the Gold Dust Trails" by Henry Walsh. It should have some information about the priest who first gave Catholic mass in the gold camps there. I will let you know what I learn about it's dedication, if it occurred. Sue Silver El Dorado County (where the Church abandoned and continues to ignore the Grizzly Flat Catholic Cemetery) ----- Original Message ----- From: Beverly Stone <louisa1893@directcon.net> To: <CAMARIPO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 5:07 PM Subject: [CAMARIPO] Re: Indian Gulch Cemetery > July 18, 2001: Spoke with Adrienne Alston, Archivist for Catholic > Diocese of Fresno (559/488-7499). She advised no records for Indian > Gulch Cemetery are there. IF they exist, they could be in the > Archdiocese of San Francisco, Sacramento or Sonora. Mariposa was at one > time in each of these diocese. The church didn't keep all names of > deaths. Only those receiving the last sacrament. The church kept > sacramental records, not vital records. Even though most of these very > rural areas had a church building, there was no parish. Usually the > priest living in Sonora came through and would conduct baptisms, etc. > and then go back to Sonora and make record of them in a book. Where > these books are is anybody's guess. Anyone calling any diocese besides > Fresno will be told they are in Fresno because Mariposa is now part of > the Diocese of Fresno - but was not then. > > Adrienne is going to send me some "very sketchy" historical data > regarding the church in Mariposa during that time. When this is > received, I will be glad to send a copy to anyone who is interested. > > Adrienne also suggested calling Rebecca Greer, Fresno County Historical > Society, at 559/438-7629. She has compiled a list of burials in Fresno > and may know of someone who has done the same for Mariposa. I spoke > with Rebecca and she didn't know of any person who had compiled such a > list. BUT, she did suggest the Calif Cemeteries site, which she thought > was through Rootsweb. It seems that I quite some time ago had gone into > a Calif Cemetery site. She said this site has grown tremendously. > Might be worth a try. > > Anyway, now you know all I know!!! > > **Beverly > > > > > ==== CAMARIPO Mailing List ==== > List of All of California Genealogy Discussion Lists: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail_states-ca.html > > >

Sue- please note that Indian Gulch was also called Santa Cruz-----or even possibly may be referred to as CASSARETTO- The CASARETTO family are perhaps the earliest burials- 1867-? Glancing at _Hallowed Were the Gold Dust Trails_, Mariposa seems to be covered in the Tuolumne Chapter----------as the priests came out of Sonora to serve the Mariposa camps. The chapter is a bit hard to follow- but will go over it again to see if I can get the correct chronological order of those serving Mariposa. Or perhaps Ruth, maybe you are able to do a chronology of those mentioned in the chapter- maybe you can understand it better than I! I am going away for several days and will be back next week....... You all have fun, and thanks Beverly and Sue for helping on this-very interesting research ! Carolyn Sue Silver wrote: > Greetings, > > If this is a Catholic Cemetery, then perhaps you need to look up deeds in > your recorders office. The Church took title in one of two ways...the first > being that a local land owner executed a deed to the local priest in that > priest's name, then he later deeded it to the Archbishop, Joseph Sadoc > Alemany (and all it's various spellings such as Alameny, etc.), or the > Archbishop accepted the deed in his name initially. If this is where an > early Catholic church was and the community dwindled sufficiently before the > federal goverment surveys were completed, the Church probably ceased being > used and Alemany did not file for a federal land patent on the land where > the church and cemetery were located. > > This instance has occurred in many locations throughout and up and down the > Mother Lode region. When the attendance at the churches dwindled so that > not enough was being received in tithes, they just walked away from it. > > I have put in a request to see if Archbishop Alemany lists this location as > a place where he dedicated a church in the early years. If you don't know > the name of the early priest and the deed is not in Alemany's name, check > "Hallowed Were the Gold Dust Trails" by Henry Walsh. It should have some > information about the priest who first gave Catholic mass in the gold camps > there. > > I will let you know what I learn about it's dedication, if it occurred. > > Sue Silver > El Dorado County > (where the Church abandoned and continues to ignore the Grizzly Flat > Catholic Cemetery) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Beverly Stone <louisa1893@directcon.net> > To: <CAMARIPO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 5:07 PM > Subject: [CAMARIPO] Re: Indian Gulch Cemetery > > > July 18, 2001: Spoke with Adrienne Alston, Archivist for Catholic > > Diocese of Fresno (559/488-7499). She advised no records for Indian > > Gulch Cemetery are there. IF they exist, they could be in the > > Archdiocese of San Francisco, Sacramento or Sonora. Mariposa was at one > > time in each of these diocese. The church didn't keep all names of > > deaths. Only those receiving the last sacrament. The church kept > > sacramental records, not vital records. Even though most of these very > > rural areas had a church building, there was no parish. Usually the > > priest living in Sonora came through and would conduct baptisms, etc. > > and then go back to Sonora and make record of them in a book. Where > > these books are is anybody's guess. Anyone calling any diocese besides > > Fresno will be told they are in Fresno because Mariposa is now part of > > the Diocese of Fresno - but was not then. > > > > Adrienne is going to send me some "very sketchy" historical data > > regarding the church in Mariposa during that time. When this is > > received, I will be glad to send a copy to anyone who is interested. > > > > Adrienne also suggested calling Rebecca Greer, Fresno County Historical > > Society, at 559/438-7629. She has compiled a list of burials in Fresno > > and may know of someone who has done the same for Mariposa. I spoke > > with Rebecca and she didn't know of any person who had compiled such a > > list. BUT, she did suggest the Calif Cemeteries site, which she thought > > was through Rootsweb. It seems that I quite some time ago had gone into > > a Calif Cemetery site. She said this site has grown tremendously. > > Might be worth a try. > > > > Anyway, now you know all I know!!! > > > > **Beverly > > > > > > > > > > ==== CAMARIPO Mailing List ==== > > List of All of California Genealogy Discussion Lists: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail_states-ca.html > > > > > > > > ==== CAMARIPO Mailing List ==== > Search the List Archives: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > or threaded archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/CAMARIPO

Yet another way to find out the information..... The Clampers erected a monument some time ago in front of this cemetery. Perhaps if you knew a clamper you could find out how to get the information. Chriss ----- Original Message ----- From: Sue Silver <ssilver1951@jps.net> To: <CAMARIPO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [CAMARIPO] Re: Indian Gulch Cemetery > Greetings, > > If this is a Catholic Cemetery, then perhaps you need to look up deeds in > your recorders office. The Church took title in one of two ways...the first > being that a local land owner executed a deed to the local priest in that > priest's name, then he later deeded it to the Archbishop, Joseph Sadoc > Alemany (and all it's various spellings such as Alameny, etc.), or the > Archbishop accepted the deed in his name initially. If this is where an > early Catholic church was and the community dwindled sufficiently before the > federal goverment surveys were completed, the Church probably ceased being > used and Alemany did not file for a federal land patent on the land where > the church and cemetery were located. > > This instance has occurred in many locations throughout and up and down the > Mother Lode region. When the attendance at the churches dwindled so that > not enough was being received in tithes, they just walked away from it. > > I have put in a request to see if Archbishop Alemany lists this location as > a place where he dedicated a church in the early years. If you don't know > the name of the early priest and the deed is not in Alemany's name, check > "Hallowed Were the Gold Dust Trails" by Henry Walsh. It should have some > information about the priest who first gave Catholic mass in the gold camps > there. > > I will let you know what I learn about it's dedication, if it occurred. > > Sue Silver > El Dorado County > (where the Church abandoned and continues to ignore the Grizzly Flat > Catholic Cemetery) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Beverly Stone <louisa1893@directcon.net> > To: <CAMARIPO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 5:07 PM > Subject: [CAMARIPO] Re: Indian Gulch Cemetery > > > > July 18, 2001: Spoke with Adrienne Alston, Archivist for Catholic > > Diocese of Fresno (559/488-7499). She advised no records for Indian > > Gulch Cemetery are there. IF they exist, they could be in the > > Archdiocese of San Francisco, Sacramento or Sonora. Mariposa was at one > > time in each of these diocese. The church didn't keep all names of > > deaths. Only those receiving the last sacrament. The church kept > > sacramental records, not vital records. Even though most of these very > > rural areas had a church building, there was no parish. Usually the > > priest living in Sonora came through and would conduct baptisms, etc. > > and then go back to Sonora and make record of them in a book. Where > > these books are is anybody's guess. Anyone calling any diocese besides > > Fresno will be told they are in Fresno because Mariposa is now part of > > the Diocese of Fresno - but was not then. > > > > Adrienne is going to send me some "very sketchy" historical data > > regarding the church in Mariposa during that time. When this is > > received, I will be glad to send a copy to anyone who is interested. > > > > Adrienne also suggested calling Rebecca Greer, Fresno County Historical > > Society, at 559/438-7629. She has compiled a list of burials in Fresno > > and may know of someone who has done the same for Mariposa. I spoke > > with Rebecca and she didn't know of any person who had compiled such a > > list. BUT, she did suggest the Calif Cemeteries site, which she thought > > was through Rootsweb. It seems that I quite some time ago had gone into > > a Calif Cemetery site. She said this site has grown tremendously. > > Might be worth a try. > > > > Anyway, now you know all I know!!! > > > > **Beverly > > > > > > > > > > ==== CAMARIPO Mailing List ==== > > List of All of California Genealogy Discussion Lists: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail_states-ca.html > > > > > > > > > ==== CAMARIPO Mailing List ==== > Search the List Archives: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > or threaded archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/CAMARIPO > >