"The "California Mining Company" from Harrison County city of Franklin, Ohio left that city on May 1, 1849 for an eighteen months stay in the California gold region. This group was equipped with ten wagons and forty mules." ______________ Hi Listers, I hope I have just found the wagon train my grandfather BARCROFT traveled to California with. Looks now as though I have some newspapers to locate. Has anyone on the list heard of this wagon train previously? >From Wm. Disbrow postings I see a lot of people in the Mariposa are were from Ohio and I have been hoping to connect with someone researching them to find out how they arrived in Mariposa. Harriet

>From Index two ( yes , we need a better name for these things...) COZ, Vincente Dec 14, 1887 COZ, Jose Carmen Dec 30, 1880 I will try to get copies of the actual papers today. Don't get to happy, they only tell what country the person came from. mel

Listers, Would anyone have any idea about why there was a Heads of Households for Homesteaders done. The dates on these records are 1890 - 95. The fiche is in really poor condition, but for each household is listed all the persons living in the home. If someone can get some info on this I would appreciate it. I am adding it to my list of stuff to get copied..... I wouold just like to know why it was done. Mel

I have more early marriage records to post, but I just can't seem to stay home long enough to type them.... in the mean time- COX John Henry to Mary S. RAMSDEN 8/23/1880 COZ Nincento to Catherine MARTINEZ 6/21/1885 these are from the Index to Mariposa Marriages, Hall of Records, Mariposa, Ca. Mel

Mel, At one time and I can't remember the year, there was a special census done in Mariposa. Might this have some connection? Or something to do with proving homesteads? Not much help am I.:>) Don't suppose the clerks know. It sounds like a valuable asset. Would love to see the list when you have time to catch up. Harriet -----Original Message----- From: Kelley [mailto:tkelley@yosemite.net] Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 7:44 AM To: CAMARIPO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CAMARIPO] Heads of Household, Homesteads 1895 Listers, Would anyone have any idea about why there was a Heads of Households for Homesteaders done. The dates on these records are 1890 - 95. The fiche is in really poor condition, but for each household is listed all the persons living in the home. If someone can get some info on this I would appreciate it. I am adding it to my list of stuff to get copied..... I wouold just like to know why it was done. Mel ==== CAMARIPO Mailing List ==== If you have any good California History or Genealogy Links let us know!

Hi Listers and welcome new listmember Terry- researcher of the AUTRAND name. I have forwarded all the AUTRAND information that listmembers have posted here directly to Terry and now Terry has decided to join us and continue researching here on the list with you. See the thank you note to you all below, and learn more about this family in Mariposa County. Best, Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: Admcclure@aol.com <Admcclure@aol.com> To: sweetwater@sierratel.com <sweetwater@sierratel.com> Date: Thursday, October 26, 2000 5:25 PM Subject: Autrand connection >Dear Ms. Feroben, > >Thank you very much for all the information that you and all those volunteers >from your website have provided me so far on the Autrands. I was surprised >that you found a Louis Autrand listed in the first index of INTENTS. He was >probably my ggrand-father's father. I was not aware of his first name, that >is one of the most important missing links that I was looking for. I do hope >that the person who does the naturalization lookups finds more information >about him i.e. the year that my ggreatgrandfather actually arrived in >California, etc. > >The Autrands have a long connection in Mariposa County. > >My ggrand-father Thomas Autrand owned land in Mariposa County and he became a >naturalized citizen of the United States in Mariposa County. >He appeared in the 1880 Census with his brother Joseph but his last name is >not listed there he appears with another family in the Indian Gulch section >39-27 Indian Gulch Section, page 383-383, actually he is listed with Mary >(Autrand). and Joseph (Autrand). I cannot read the last name of the first >person listed whose first name is John, if anyone can find that out for me I >would appreciate it very much. >My ggrandmother Josepha Coz family appears in Hornito, Mariposa County >section with her father Vicente Coz, his wife and my grandmother's siblings. >My grandfather Emile Thomas Autrand and my grandmother Mayme Kast Autrand are >buried in the St. Joseph Catholic Church in Mariposa, California. Their home >was located right across from the church down the hill, I have photos of the >home, the church and the burial place. >My father went to school in Mariposa, California, and later joined the Army. > >I really appreciate all the information that you have provided me. And I am >looking forward in finding more information about the first Autrand that >arrived and settled in California. > >Thanks again and I feel that by contacting you and your website will provide >me with a goldmine of information. I just joined the CaMaripo Mailing list. > >Terry Emile Autrand >

The CNP is an important component of the U.S. Newspaper Program, which has been described by the Organization of American Historians as the "single most important effort to complete the history of this nation." http://www.cbsr.ucr.edu/cnp/index.html Don Rose Mariposa

AUTRAND, Mrs. Thomas Mariposa Gazette, July 28, 1906 Death of Mrs. T. Autrand. Mrs. Autrand, wife of Thomas Autrand, the well known liquor dealer, passed away in Fresno last night after a long illness. Her death was due to dropsy of the heart. Mrs. Autrand had been a sufferer from the disease for many years, and had been under the care of physicians in Madera and Fresno for some time. About a year ago she was given up, but medical skill and the loving care of her family brought her through and she recovered. For a time she felt better than she had in years, but recently she began to get worse. About three weeks ago her husband took her to Fresno, where she had the benefit of the best medical skill of that city. The doctors realized that the end was near yesterday and sent for her husband, who hastened to the bedside of his wife. Towards midnight Mrs. Autrand's spirit took flight. The deceased was a native of Hornitos, Mariposa County, Cal., and was 46 years of age. Besides a husband she leaves nine children to mourn her loss. The deceased also leaves a brother, V. M. Coz, who resides in Fresno. Mrs Autrand was a loving mother and kind neighbor. She leaves a host of friends who will hear with regret of her demise. The remains were brought here to day for interment. The funeral will take place from the family residence on B Street Sunday at 2:30 p. m. – Madera Mercury, July 20th. - ---------------------------------- AUTRAND, Thos. Mariposa Gazette, August 17, 1907 Death of T. Autrand. Thos. Autrand, a well known citizen and business man of Madera, died at his home on B. Street last night at 9:30 o'clock from heart failure. Mr. Autrand had not enjoyed robust health for a number of years, but though taken seriously ill a couple of days ago, it was not thought that death was imminent, indeed he was thought to be improving only a little while before his death. T. Autrand was a native of France, aged 58 years. He came to this country when seven years old and most of his life was spent in the San Joaquin valley. For many years he teamed and farmed in Merced and Mariposa counties. About fifteen years ago he engaged in the whole sale and retail liquor business in Madera, which, with his sons, he conducted up to the time of his death. His wife died about a year ago. He had five sons, T. V., Joseph, John, Paula and Emilio, and four daughters, Lola, Louisa, Mercedes and Anna. His other near relatives are his mother, Mrs. Autrand, a brother Joseph Autrand, and sister Mrs. Merino, all of whom reside in Madera. Mr. Autrand had many friends, by whom his death is greatly regretted. – Madera Tribune, Aug 8th. - ------------------------------------------------- AUTRAND, Mrs. Mary Ann C. Mariposa Gazette, May 22, 1909 Mrs. Mary Ann C. Autrand, a native of France, who for thirty years was a resident of Indian Gulch, this county, died at Madera, May 14, aged 80 years and 15 days. She had been a resident of Madera a number of years. -- Thomas and Paulette Hilk 1725 Wildwood Ct. Merced, CA. 95340 E-mail address: paulette@elite.net

Harriet- thanks so much I have forwarded your message to the researchers -along with the other helpers, Mel and Tom. I hope these folks may join the list and answer some of these questions- and get me out of the middle! You guys are great! Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: Harriet Sturk <harriet@madnet.net> To: CAMARIPO-L@rootsweb.com <CAMARIPO-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, October 26, 2000 9:35 AM Subject: RE: [CAMARIPO] AUTRAND >Carolyn, > >What is AUTRAND's first name? > >Possible connections? > >I have 1) Joseph J. ATURAND, w/wife Carmen living in Madera 1928-29 >Directory, as watchman at 815 From Street. > >2)Jack AUTRAND W/wife Carolyn, employee PG&E, lives 1832 Paul Ave. >Madera Dir. in 1964. > >No AUTRANDS in Merced 1928-29, but presently a half dozen families >listed. Do you have a Merced telephone Directory? > >I take it you found him in the 1894 Great Reg. in Madera. I have >Thomas AUTRAND in the 1900 CENSUS I am transcribing along with >Ken and Norma. > >From: Madera Co Census 1900 > >Perhaps Joseph's son and his family. > >Autrand, Thomas - Autrand, Josie - Autrand, Thomas B. - Autrand, >Joseph C. - Autrand, John A.Autrand , -Lola Autrand, - P?Autrand, L?-- >Would the complete listing help? It is not up yet on the net as it >is very slow typing. > >I'll ask around and see if there are any AUTRAND's still here and if there >is a Mariposa connection. I think Norma mentioned them the other day. > >We are on the track of the Madera naturalization papers--they may do us >all some good if we can find them. The Co. Clerk says she gave them to >the Superior Judge? He is looking for them for us. > >Harriet > >-----Original Message----- >From: Carolyn Feroben [mailto:Sweetwater@Sierratel.com] >Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 7:35 AM >To: CAMARIPO-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [CAMARIPO] AUTRAND > > >Hi folks- another request from a non listmember- > >This name, although similar to the name I am researching- ARTRU- is for >another Frenchman-named AUTRAND. > >Looking for his naturalization -(Mel will be looking for this) and any other >information- There is some references on the Madera site that they have >already found. > >the researcher writes: >We know that are ggreat-grandfather settled in Mariposa County, California, >between 1852-1854. He came from France with his 4 years old son Thomas A. >Autrand. We actually do not have much information about our >ggreat-grandfather and we are trying to find out which part of France he >came >from " > >If you happen upon anything for this name please let me know. > >Best, Carolyn > > > >==== CAMARIPO Mailing List ==== >Submit your Family Chronicle for publishing to the Mariposa GenWeb Site to >sweetwater@sierratel.com > > >==== CAMARIPO Mailing List ==== >List of All of California Genealogy Discussion Lists: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail_states-ca.html > >

Thanks- yes Cos is also a name they are researching- Appreciate your help. Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: Paulette Hilk <paulette@elite.net> To: CAMARIPO-L@rootsweb.com <CAMARIPO-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, October 26, 2000 9:37 AM Subject: [CAMARIPO] Autrand >Mariposa Gazette, July 10, 1880 > >MARRIED. > >AUTRAND - COS – At Hornitos, Mariposa county, June 28th, 1880, by Rev. >Father McNamara, Thomas Autrand to Jose Cos. > >-- >Thomas and Paulette Hilk >1725 Wildwood Ct. >Merced, CA. 95340 > >E-mail address: paulette@elite.net > > > >==== CAMARIPO Mailing List ==== >Submit your Family Chronicle for publishing to the Mariposa GenWeb Site to sweetwater@sierratel.com > >

AUTRAND, Louis is listed in the first index of the INTENTS. But remember, this first index is just to those one paragraph intents that are hand written in the ledger, prior to going to court. At least in the ledger we can get the earliest date of his intentions. This index does not list home countries or dates. He in not found in the later index which goes up to 1890. We still have at least one more index to check. Will look at later dates tomorrow. Mel

Mariposa Gazette, July 10, 1880 MARRIED. AUTRAND - COS – At Hornitos, Mariposa county, June 28th, 1880, by Rev. Father McNamara, Thomas Autrand to Jose Cos. -- Thomas and Paulette Hilk 1725 Wildwood Ct. Merced, CA. 95340 E-mail address: paulette@elite.net

Carolyn, What is AUTRAND's first name? Possible connections? I have 1) Joseph J. ATURAND, w/wife Carmen living in Madera 1928-29 Directory, as watchman at 815 From Street. 2)Jack AUTRAND W/wife Carolyn, employee PG&E, lives 1832 Paul Ave. Madera Dir. in 1964. No AUTRANDS in Merced 1928-29, but presently a half dozen families listed. Do you have a Merced telephone Directory? I take it you found him in the 1894 Great Reg. in Madera. I have Thomas AUTRAND in the 1900 CENSUS I am transcribing along with Ken and Norma. From: Madera Co Census 1900 Perhaps Joseph's son and his family. Autrand, Thomas - Autrand, Josie - Autrand, Thomas B. - Autrand, Joseph C. - Autrand, John A.Autrand , -Lola Autrand, - P?Autrand, L?-- Would the complete listing help? It is not up yet on the net as it is very slow typing. I'll ask around and see if there are any AUTRAND's still here and if there is a Mariposa connection. I think Norma mentioned them the other day. We are on the track of the Madera naturalization papers--they may do us all some good if we can find them. The Co. Clerk says she gave them to the Superior Judge? He is looking for them for us. Harriet -----Original Message----- From: Carolyn Feroben [mailto:Sweetwater@Sierratel.com] Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 7:35 AM To: CAMARIPO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CAMARIPO] AUTRAND Hi folks- another request from a non listmember- This name, although similar to the name I am researching- ARTRU- is for another Frenchman-named AUTRAND. Looking for his naturalization -(Mel will be looking for this) and any other information- There is some references on the Madera site that they have already found. the researcher writes: We know that are ggreat-grandfather settled in Mariposa County, California, between 1852-1854. He came from France with his 4 years old son Thomas A. Autrand. We actually do not have much information about our ggreat-grandfather and we are trying to find out which part of France he came from " If you happen upon anything for this name please let me know. Best, Carolyn ==== CAMARIPO Mailing List ==== Submit your Family Chronicle for publishing to the Mariposa GenWeb Site to sweetwater@sierratel.com

Hi folks- another request from a non listmember- This name, although similar to the name I am researching- ARTRU- is for another Frenchman-named AUTRAND. Looking for his naturalization -(Mel will be looking for this) and any other information- There is some references on the Madera site that they have already found. the researcher writes: We know that are ggreat-grandfather settled in Mariposa County, California, between 1852-1854. He came from France with his 4 years old son Thomas A. Autrand. We actually do not have much information about our ggreat-grandfather and we are trying to find out which part of France he came from " If you happen upon anything for this name please let me know. Best, Carolyn

Hi Folks- As you research would you please be on the lookout for anything regarding D G KIDDER- I have been contacted by a non listmember researching this family. >From the California Death Index I see that Daniel was born 2/06/1869 and died 08/19/1949 in Mariposa I have copied all the references in the 125 Gazette book for him- also the obit for Mrs Lawrence GREELEY who died while working at the CWA office for DG KIDDER (this obit is on the website) Anything else would be appreciated- also a Don HOFF is mentioned as the son of Mrs KIDDER: Mariposa Gazette Oct 14, 1942 Don HOFF, son of Mrs. D G KIDDER of Mariposa, is with the Air Corp somewhere in the Pacific. Thanks for anything else you may find. Carolyn

Hey gang, I have been told that Native Americans could petition to become "Citizens ' ( SNORT! Is this an oxy moron or not? ) As I go thru these many citzenship indices, would you all mind sending me a few names to look up and see if I can find at least one example of this actually happening. ( Like I don't have anything else to do..... HEE!) Mel

Strange but true, Mel!! Even though our Constitution says somewhere that anyone born in the United States is a citizen ... I think, historically, this came about because Indian Territory was not part of the United States, and Indian tribes were independent, sovereign nations dealt with by treaty under international law. Indian chiefs were even received as royalty by the English monarchs in colonial times. Later, when Indians were confined to "reservations" -- remnants of their own land and usually the worst land available -- the reservations were technically not part of the United States (but only held "in trust" by the federal government) and the reservation Indians were not citizens, were not counted in the census for purposes of representation, could not vote, etc. Indians living off the reservation were not automatically made citizens but could apply for citizenship. In 1924 (in what I read was a violation of international law), without asking the Indians whether they wanted to belong to what was a foreign government, the United States decided to make all American Indians citizens of the United States, regardless of where they were living. This would be like making the Japanese in Occupied Japan citizens of the United States, whether they wanted to be or not. While many regarded citizenship for Indians as a good move, some nations such as the Navajo have actually petitioned the United Nations for recognition as the sovereign nations they were, prior to US imperialism. I'm not sure what action the United Nations ever took on these requests. Anyway, the result has made Indian rights even more complicated than ever, because there are the rights of US citizens (many of which were previously denied) and then there are treaty rights of various Indian tribes, and sometimes these are in conflict. A bunch of red-white-and-blue tape! Wish I could give you some names to look up, but don't know any. Will be interested if you find any "Naturalized Natives," though. Joan ===================================================== In a message dated 10/25/00 7:45:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time, tkelley@yosemite.net writes: > > Hey gang, I have been told that Native Americans could petition to become > "Citizens ' ( SNORT! Is this an oxy moron or not? ) > As I go thru these many citzenship indices, would you all mind sending me > a few names to look up and see if I can find at least one example of this > actually happening. > ( Like I don't have anything else to do..... HEE!) > Mel > >

I wonder if Jim & Julie HOWARD were related to Maggie HOWARD (Tabuce). ====================================================== In a message dated 10/23/00 11:53:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time, RoenaD@aol.com writes: > I have been following this Indian research that's been going on. I have > not > seen any mention of an Indian burial ground in Clark's Valley. Did anyone > know there was one there? I'm sure there aren't any signs of it any more, > but it was there. Maybe some of your ancesters were there. My mother was a > > Clark and it was there when she lived there. There was an Indian couple > that > lived on the ranch by the name of Jim and Julie Howard. I know nothing about > > them but have their picture. > > Roena >

The Sierra/Mariposa Miwok name for : "NORTH" was tamalin "STAR" was tealaTu (long U) Now we know her handle Joan, we just have to find this tamalin tealaTu :)

Hey, guys that is great work. Harriet -----Original Message----- From: Sharon [mailto:syvonne@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 10:42 AM To: CAMARIPO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CAMARIPO] NORTH STAR The Sierra/Mariposa Miwok name for : "NORTH" was tamalin "STAR" was tealaTu (long U) Now we know her handle Joan, we just have to find this tamalin tealaTu :) ==== CAMARIPO Mailing List ==== NEW LIST MEMEBERS- Post your querie so we can start helping you!!