Sue, SUE: Nice to see you back; I tried to contact you a time or two but message bounced. I think part of my problem with John being father of Job, John, Jacob, and Sallie was John the father being born about 1747 and Job in 1858 - making the father 11 years old. Now it appears there is a Job born about 1770 - older Job was probably a brother to John born 1747 - so entirely plausible! Hopefully we can unravel this case; it is nice to see more attention to this branch and that so many are involved. If correct, it would be in O'Gorman wouldn't it? Seems I remember George "The Younger" mentioned in the book (I don't have the book but it is available at Minnesota Historical Library and I will certainly obtain one if this works out!) Thanks all, Daphne Calvert Toomey ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com