I'm of no help to anyone on my Calvert. All I have is that Sarah Calvert, d/o Thomas, m William Cooling 1823, not in Cecil Co, MD, and they lived in Cecil Co, MD. I bought the book on the Quaker Calverts and found no clues. There were possibilities but he didn't follow up all the siblings. Much of the book went with one branch to VA. I don't believe they were connected to Lord Baltimore. CAthy ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Edwin Bell" <daipdq@juno.com> To: <CALVERT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [CALVERT] Re: Calvert research VA/PA/WV > > Hi Cathy. > > Lets back up. I know we chatted a bit once about your line and I have forgotten--where does your family line end up? that is Calvert? Do Sarah and William go to KY? OH? Do you have inkling of diferrent spelling for Thomas, such as Colbert or Colvert or even Covalt? David > > > "Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much." Oscar Wilde > > -- "Cathy Berger" <o2bab@bedford.net> wrote: > I can't fit my Thomas Calvert into either the Lord Baltimore or the Quaker > groups. His daughter, Sarah, married William Cooling in Cecil Co, MD in > 1823. I have no other clues as to his parentage. The Coolings were > Methodists. > > Cathy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <daipdq@juno.com> > To: <CALVERT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 1:59 AM > Subject: [CALVERT] Re: Calvert research VA/PA/WV > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > Classification: Query > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WQH.2ACEB/1018.1 > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > When you think about genealogy, you are thinking history. Having found > Thomas C. Calvert Sr in Greene Co PA, Will, documentation, vendue, etc I > knew for certain that there is a very succinct history to this family line. > I do know this via seconary documentation: THomas Father was Isaac who > married Fanny Bullitt(sic). other researchers who know the Calverts and > other lines well would indicate this is the Bullitts out of VA. I thought > early on that Frances Bullitt was the wife of Isaac but she is too young. I > presume still, that thinking this is a valid assumption, based on locale and > origination of the Calverts out of MD and > > VA. > > > > To be sure, there is an Isaac Calvert of the John Calvert Line most > likely, he is found in chester and probably a brother to the > > John and Daniel Calvert there, or the Thomas or the Joshua who m Deborah > Harlan and is associated with the Chenowith family line and/or the > Hollingsworth. But Truthfully I can say there is no inkling anywhere in my > family of a quaker association, except by marriage. There are 5 family lines > that have passed down the fact that these Calverts of first, Western VA are > out of MD: My Calvert family, The Harlan Carnely Lemasters and Taylors, all > 5 family groups having a heritage of the same story: Thomas and his > ancestors were from Maryland. Now don't read this to say that I know this is > the truth, because I do not. However, in all 5 of these families there is > the family story that these Calverts were related to one of the Lords > Baltimore, namely, Ceciliius. So fo course when I took over from Dorthey Lee > Calvert, I presumed a lot, but kept this essential focus intact. > > > > for nearly a year I have looked for Isaac Calvert who could poossiblyy be > disassoicated from any connection with the Irish Calverts to nno avaiil. But > I did begin to dig into other spellings of the Calvert surname and I found > an Isaac Colbert born in Somerset Co. MD 1747/8 whho was son of Alexander > Colbert who married Mary Whealer in 1744. Thiss really got my attention. I > wsa thinking geography, how close things were and various family associated > researchers who also had looked at this Isaac. THere are 4 diffrent frames > of reference which indicate the heritage of Isaac. one indicates that Isaac > was b 1735 father of Thomas. Another William but has THomas bdate as 1784 > which is the wrong Thomas. Still another gets down to a lot closer look, > still with Thomas and Isaac and going back to John Calvert who > > is the son of George b1668(Eliabeth Doyne). This john was supposedly the > one who came to the middle potomac and started a fur trading post, father of > William father of Isaac. > > > > Still another posits the father of Isaac as Reason Calvert b abt 1722. So > it goes round and round as I seek him..>>>WHO ARE YOU ISAAC? > > > > There is a transcription of a newspaper article in the files at > > Cornerstone genealogy. I had seen this quite some time ago. It was John > Calvert came in to pay his bill and he told a story of his family. At first, > I could not make the connection until we figured out the brothers and > sisters of my THomas C. Calvert Jr. Then (sigh by gawd as a later descendent > of this Thomas was wont to say), it hit me. Had I not gone to Greene County, > I would never have found any of this. I would never have had the sense to go > back again and again and I will be there again just after thanksgiving. > > > > Even the research story gets interesting but anyway, this John D names > names which are in the faamily and ends up saying in the news article, that > sure, my family is from 'Bucks Lancaster, England.' This tells me that John > D Calvert who told the reporter this story in 1881 knew where he was from > and from the family to which his ancestry belonged. > > > > I cannot say if he meant Bucks meaning the county in PA. Or Lancaster the > county in VA or PA or in the UK meaning Buckinghamshire which is south and > east of Yorkshire. It certainly meant that a 76 year old man knew his family > heritage was from England. > > > > Well, I will buy that. Of course the presumption on my part was this was > so all along. > > > > I hope this makes interesting story telling but the single key fact is > that we know via this news article, the heritage of the My Calvert family, > even more than we knew before. FUrther in this collection of documentation > is a letter of Ida Calvert to her Uncle Dr. Thomas Miller Calvert, defining > a trip from Silverhill, Wetzel Co WV to Greene Co pa. She says where the > farms of Isaac and Thomas were located, even finding the tombstone of Thomas > Sr, still intact and readable in 1921 though in 3 pieces. She finds the > Faney Bulet stone at Old Blacksville Cemetery,, etc. > > > > It is very clear that Isaac, the father of Thomas married a Fanny > Bulliitt(sic) Boulet, bulet bullett etc. Finding an Isaac who was of MD and > not PA of the Irish Calvert line was a very big find. There is in the > records of PA an Isaac who marries an Elizabeth Gart. He is suupposed out of > somerset according to somee researchers but at least we can say that there > are possibly two isaacs who have association with West PA. > > > > I am sure that those who are researching this form the frame of Reference > of George Dye who married Sarah Hannah Calvert, D/O Isaac Calvert and > Francis (lnu) or Bulliitt(sic) or Bullock b1769 are interested also. I know > there is much here that I am not documenting in this simple posting. Many of > the my fellow reseearchers looking at the Isaac who was father of Sarah > Hannah have pointed at the Isaac of CHester and that he is > > of the Quaker Irish. I respectfully disagree. I have 3 or 4 of the > descendent lines of Calverts of Isaac who say they were from Virginia and > have no Quaker connection except via marriage. > > This includes descendents of Thomas Clare Jr, Hugh Ewing Calvert, John D. > Calvert which are 3 of the sons of Thomas Sr. > > > > I hope this stirs your interest. It really doesn't matter to me if the > > line is Irish or from TImbuktu. The whole point is to go as far as we > can.. > > > > best regards to all, David Bell > > > > > > ==== CALVERT Mailing List ==== > > Any list problems or questions can be sent to the listowner, Christi > Calvert Brogan at calvert-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > ==== CALVERT Mailing List ==== > Please visit the surname mailing list homepage at: http://jadis.darktech.org/genealogy/calvert for information on this list, it's member's pages, queries and other helpful genealogy pages. > > > ==== CALVERT Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, please send email to: > calvert-l-request@rootsweb.com (for list mail) or calvert-d-request@rootsweb (for digest mail) > with the body message of > UNSUBSCRIBE > >