The thing Jim, I am trying to establish is: 1. The parents of William who married Jane. William would be born about the time of our isaac. so say 1745 give or take, like Joseph below. 2. There is a Joseph Calvert also who had a John, Joseph, a Deborah and a couple of more Children. this joseph would be born about the time of our Isaac b 174x. so say 1745 give or take. Again. I apologize. I know I wrote you about this but cannot recall the page numbers, etc and because email causes so much robustness, i do not save all sent mail. I suppose this is a reason to do so but the mangage ment of data gets to be problematic for me. If you look for Jane and William is one thing, Joseph the other. I am pretty sure though that I was trying to figure out this William and Joseph and who they belonged to. David -- "Jim Ray" <jrray4@msn.com> wrote: David: I have gone through my e-mails from you and still cannot find the one where you asked me to order the Cumberland, PA history. What is important is that you gave me the page numbers to look for Calverts. It does not have a good index. I have that microfilm out at the Family History Center now. I think it may have some importance, as a family of Calverts supposedly moved back to Chester Co. from Cumberland. Could you make another quick look at your e-mails to me 10-15 days before September 24? Jim Ray ==== CALVERT Mailing List ==== Any list problems or questions can be sent to the listowner, Christi Calvert Brogan at calvert-admin@rootsweb.com