Folks, There are many hurt feelings generated on this subject and I am asking everyone to drop it please. As I said in my previous post it is not a reasonable request to insist that new query posters make reference to whether they are listed in the O'Gorman, or any other resource for that matter. Queries come in as they may, with or without reference. You may choose to refer them to someone who is willing, like Juanita, to do a lookup in the O'Gorman, or other sources, but they do not HAVE to note this in their query. Now, please, topic closed and let's get back to researching this line, in O'Gorman or what ever other sources we may have. Thank you! Christi Calvert Brogan, your list manager Visit our homepage at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cbrogan Visit our genealogy pages at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cbrogan/gen.html Country living at it's finest! http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/countrylife

I agree. O'Gorman may be a good guide, but I have found mistakes with some early VA Calvert listings. My 4th G Grandmother, Mary Calvert =m= William Walke, and her G Grandson, Rear Admiral Henry Walke wrote family history, and stories of PAC and Lower Norfork VA, with "first person" knowledge. Some info on Walke, Calvert, Moseley, Lee and others are listed in my site below, "Just a Veteran". ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ M F SMITH, 6 yr Army Vet, Ret, AL, APS Genealogy.......... "http://community.webtv.net/CmbtEngrVet/JUSTAVETERAN" and "http://community.webtv.net/DerDoodler/HARRYSGAHANNA" plus opinion line "http://community.webtv.net/Airacorba/VETERANSOPINION"

I show him as a son of William Calvert and Elizabeth Stone which is my line. I've included any sources I have and can give you an ancestor chart if you like. Hope this helps. William Calvert, born Abt. 1670 in Charles Co, MD; died 5-Feb-1720/21 (Source: Register of Maryland's Heraldic Families (seg 2 & 3) provided by Christi Brogan ([email protected]). Other Notes: From the Virginia Calvert History William (Calvert) Colvard, born Abt. 1670 in Henrico or Chesterfield County, Virginia; died Abt. 1745 in Dale Parish, Chesterfield County, Virginia; married Temperance Butterworth Bef. 1735 in Dale Parish, Chesterfield County, Virginia. Maryland Historical Magazine, Maryland Historical Society, Vol XVI, December, 1921 No. 4. Shows his birth as 1666. Page 392. Descendants of William Calvert 1 William Calvert 1642 - 1682 . +Elizabeth Stone 1644 - 1707 m: December 15, 1664 in St Mary's County, Maryland ...... 2 Elizabeth Calvert 1661/62 - 1684 .......... +James Neale - 1727 m: January 01, 1680/81 in Charles County, Maryland ...... 2 Charles Calvert 1664 - 1733 .......... +Barbara Kirk m: Bef. 1693 ...... *2nd Wife of Charles Calvert: .......... +Mary Howison 1653 - m: 1705 ...... 2 Anne Calvert 1666 - ...... 2 Colvard 1666 - 1720/21 .......... +Temperance Butterworth m: in Dale Parish, Chesterfield County, Virginia ...... 2 George Calvert 1668 - 1739 .......... +Elizabeth Doyne 1670 - m: 1691 in St Mary's County, Maryland ...... *2nd Wife of George Calvert: .......... +Anne Nottley m: 1695 ...... 2 Richard B. Calvert 1672 - 1718 ...... 2 Joshua Calvert 1674 - 1733 ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2000 6:07 PM Subject: [CALVERT-L] Re: Tennessee Calverts > Greetings fellow Calvert researchers! Below, I will post my connection with > William Calvert (Colvard) who married Temperance Butterworth Easley. After > William's death, Temperance married Warham Easley. If there is anyone who > has a clue on William's ancestry, I would love to hear from you. We seem to > have hit a brick wall in connecting William to the "Lord Baltimore Calverts," > however I do know something that may be of interest. > > Has anyone ever heard of the Cherokee Indian supporter Col. William Holland > Thomas? Thomas was born in the year 1805 on Racoon Creek, near Waynesville, > North Carolina. It has been documented that his mother's name was Temperance > Calvert (or Colvard) and he was said to have descended from a brother of the > II Lord Calvert. My Tennessee Calverts (Colvards) have always claimed a > kinship with Thomas. My Calverts (Colvards) also have, through lateral > lines, Cherokee connections. Any help with this would be appreciated. My > line follows down to my gr.gr. grandmother: Eliza Jane Dunaway. > > Sincerely, > > Chris Clark in Mississippi > [email protected] > > Direct Descendants of William (Calvert) Colvard > > 1 William (Calvert) Colvard b: Abt. 1670 in Henrico or Chesterfield > County, Virginia d: Abt. 1745 in Dale Parish, Chesterfield County, > Virginia > . +Temperance Butterworth b: Abt. 1708 in Halifax or Albemarle County, > Virginia m: Bef. 1735 in Dale Parish, Chesterfield County, Virginia d: > Bef. 1803 in North Carolina(?) > 2 John Butterworth (Calvert) Colvard b: Abt. 1741 in Chesterfield > County, Virginia d: Bef. 1832 in North Carolina(?) > . +Judith Merryman b: Abt. 1741 in Goochland County, Virginia m: > December 25, 1762 in Cumberland County, Virginia d: Bef. 1836 in North > Carolina(?) > 3 William Pleasants Colvard b: 1769 in North Carolina d: > Unknown in Probably Tennessee > 4 Sarah "Sally" Colvard b: Abt. 1805 in Surry County, North Carolina > d: 1896 in Richland Twp., Madison County, Arkansas > . +John Dunaway b: May 25, 1798 in Probably Richmond County, Virginia > m: July 17, 1828 in Hardeman County, Tennessee d: 1883 in Richland Twp., > Madison County, Arkansas > 5 Eliza Jane Dunaway b: January 18, 1843 in Richland, Madison County, > Arkansas d: June 18, 1926 in Prairie Grove, Washington County, Arkansas > > > > ==== CALVERT Mailing List ==== > Please support the Rootsweb Genealogical Cooperative by becoming a member, sponsor, or donor. For more information, visit Rootsweb at http://www.rootsweb.com >

Hi, I am also looking for William Calvert. My Mary Polly Calvert, daughter of William Calvert married Mynatt Hallmark, Their son, Mary and Mynatt, Wilbur William Hallmark married Melvina Amanda Easley. Her father was Daniel Easley. Daniel has a brother named Warham b. 1822. Are we connected? My Easley's are from NC and also Blound Co. Alabama. My Calvert's are also from VA, NC, AL. Let me know I have a lot of information on the Easley and Hallmarks. I am always willing to share information. Thanks Debi C. Miller

Hope this gets you started. I just bought an old issue of the Maryland Historical Society through EBAY. There is an article in it that traces the various heirs to the title, Lord Baltimore. James Madison Calvert appeared in it as follows: Benjamin Franklin Calvert Esq., of Willows, California, de jure fourteenth Lord Baltimore had no issue, his heir is his first cousin, James Madison Calvert, of Hunnewell, Mo., eldest son of the late Ziba Calvert (q.v.) and grandson of Cecilius, de jure ninth Lord Baltimore. He is therefore heir presumptive to the Barony, if restored. Taken from Maryland Historical Magazine, published by The Maryland Historical Society, Vol XVI December 1921 No. 4. ************************* ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob McKeal <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 11:14 PM Subject: [CALVERT-L] James Madison Calvert > Does anyone have information on James Madison Calvert, or is related to him on the list. I know that he lived in Missouri , and in Kansas for a short time, and that he was in the first state Legislature. > Thanks > Bob > > > ==== CALVERT Mailing List ==== > Please visit the surname mailing list homepage at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cbrogan/calvert.html for information on this list, it's member's pages, queries and other helpful genealogy pages. >

Greetings fellow Calvert researchers! Below, I will post my connection with William Calvert (Colvard) who married Temperance Butterworth Easley. After William's death, Temperance married Warham Easley. If there is anyone who has a clue on William's ancestry, I would love to hear from you. We seem to have hit a brick wall in connecting William to the "Lord Baltimore Calverts," however I do know something that may be of interest. Has anyone ever heard of the Cherokee Indian supporter Col. William Holland Thomas? Thomas was born in the year 1805 on Racoon Creek, near Waynesville, North Carolina. It has been documented that his mother's name was Temperance Calvert (or Colvard) and he was said to have descended from a brother of the II Lord Calvert. My Tennessee Calverts (Colvards) have always claimed a kinship with Thomas. My Calverts (Colvards) also have, through lateral lines, Cherokee connections. Any help with this would be appreciated. My line follows down to my gr.gr. grandmother: Eliza Jane Dunaway. Sincerely, Chris Clark in Mississippi [email protected] Direct Descendants of William (Calvert) Colvard 1 William (Calvert) Colvard b: Abt. 1670 in Henrico or Chesterfield County, Virginia d: Abt. 1745 in Dale Parish, Chesterfield County, Virginia . +Temperance Butterworth b: Abt. 1708 in Halifax or Albemarle County, Virginia m: Bef. 1735 in Dale Parish, Chesterfield County, Virginia d: Bef. 1803 in North Carolina(?) 2 John Butterworth (Calvert) Colvard b: Abt. 1741 in Chesterfield County, Virginia d: Bef. 1832 in North Carolina(?) . +Judith Merryman b: Abt. 1741 in Goochland County, Virginia m: December 25, 1762 in Cumberland County, Virginia d: Bef. 1836 in North Carolina(?) 3 William Pleasants Colvard b: 1769 in North Carolina d: Unknown in Probably Tennessee 4 Sarah "Sally" Colvard b: Abt. 1805 in Surry County, North Carolina d: 1896 in Richland Twp., Madison County, Arkansas . +John Dunaway b: May 25, 1798 in Probably Richmond County, Virginia m: July 17, 1828 in Hardeman County, Tennessee d: 1883 in Richland Twp., Madison County, Arkansas 5 Eliza Jane Dunaway b: January 18, 1843 in Richland, Madison County, Arkansas d: June 18, 1926 in Prairie Grove, Washington County, Arkansas

Does anyone have any imformation on the Calvert family in Russell Co. Va? Or have any suggestion where to look???? Thanks

Hello; I have a copy of the O'Gorman book and will be glad to do look-ups as long as they are not too involved. Hope everyone stays happy!!! Juanita At 11:14 PM 1/14/2000 -0600, you wrote: >Ok, before this goes any further... Laura, sometimes when people post their >queries to the list they don't know anything about the Calvert book, and >they don't really know much about the ancestor they are looking for. That >is why they are coming to the list in the first place. I know I for one >don't have a copy of the O'Gorman (although am hoping to purchase/obtain one >soon) so I can't look up page numbers, etc. for my line nor can I do so for >any other researcher, so usually I send them to the list with their >questions. So your request is really not a reasonable one in all cases. >Sorry. Bob, your query was just fine, but your reaction to Laura's post is >not. Please everyone, if you have a problem with a person or an action on >the list, contact me personally and do not send to the list. Thank you! > >Christi >Visit our homepage at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cbrogan >Visit our genealogy pages at: >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cbrogan/gen.html >Country living at it's finest! http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/countrylife > >-----Original Message----- >From: Bob McKeal [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 11:01 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [CALVERT-L] O'Gorman citation > > >Now I'm sorry to ask my sorry damm question! I was just looking to see if >anyone from my line was on line! >----- Original Message ----- >From: Laura Crane <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 2:33 PM >Subject: [CALVERT-L] O'Gorman citation > > >> In my humble opinion, I think it would help us all when getting a >message "dies anyone know anything about......Calvert >> since we have a good basic genealogy to work from, to state >whether the branch in question has been noted in Mrs.O'Gormans >'Descendants of Virginia Calverts." (I'm new to the list but have been a >genealogist for several years. >> >> >> ==== CALVERT Mailing List ==== >> Any list problems or questions can be sent to the listowner, Christi >Calvert Brogan at [email protected] >> > > >==== CALVERT Mailing List ==== >Any list problems or questions can be sent to the listowner, Christi Calvert >Brogan at [email protected] > > >==== CALVERT Mailing List ==== >Please do not send spam warnings, chain letters, attachements and/or html or rich text formatted email to the list. If in questions, please address the listowner at [email protected] > > >

Why do we need to state whether ONE particular author or manuscript has our family member listed in the manual? I thought this was a CALVERT email group, but it seems like this is the O'Gorman email group. There are numerous other resources other than O'Gorman with wonderful CALVERT research listed. It is so refreshing to see other resources listed.

Is anyone out there doing any research on CALVERTS living in the above mentioned areas? Suzie Branham

Laura and Bob write: > Bob. assume you are saying James Madison Calvert was in first > legislature in Kansas, was that > 1855? Do you have a page he is on in O'Gorman? We're working > on the "Cooper County > MO Calverts" and I have found James Calvert's bio sketch and his > farms in the 1876 plat maps > of Cooper County, northwest of Carrolton. He is a son of Nodding > Calvert, was b. Feb 14, 1830 Cooper County, MO came to Carrol County in > 1844, died in Carroll County May 30, 1897 m. Mary J. Scott as per page > 669 of O'Gorman's, " Descendants of Virginia Calverts." > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob McKeal <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Date: Thursday, January 13, 2000 11:12 PM > Subject: [CALVERT-L] James Madison Calvert > > > >Does anyone have information on James Madison Calvert, or is related to him > on the list. I know that he lived in Missouri , and in Kansas for a short > time, and that he was in the first state Legislature. > >Thanks > >Bob > > Laura and Bob, James Madison Calvert died Sept. 19, 1896, St. Joseph, Mo. He is listed on page 230 and is #544 in the book. James Madison Calvert is from a completely different line of Calverts; -James Madison, James, Jesse, Obed, George, George, William, Leonard, George -1st Ld. Baltimore. The information you give about Nodding Calvert is not even close to what is shown on page 669. I offered sometime ago to work with all the folks researching "William Calvert who married Elizabeth Nodding". My suggestion was to assemble an accurate reproduction of the text from Descendants of Virginia Calverts. George Calvert [email protected]

Debi writes: Hi Does anyone have any information on William, father of Mary Polly Calvert, I know he was in Norfolk, VA, and also Blound, AL. Also his brothers Thomas, Joseph and Jonathan. Please if you have any information on this family would really appreciate it. Thanks Debi Debi: Sounds like the family of Cornelius Calvert of Norfolk, Va. There was a brother, William Calvert, b. June 10, 1734; m. Ann (Hunter) Barlow, widow. No Issue. This is a well known family. The genealogy given in Descendants of Virginia Calverts appears to be from reliable sources. There is no further write-up in later generations on William Calvert (or his sister Elizabeth Calvert, who married Alexander Love). Continuing family lines are presented for all the other brothers of William who had heirs. These other brothers remained in Virginia, except for the eldest son, Jonathan who drown at sea in 1744. If "proof" exists that William Calvert of Blount Co., Al. had brothers named Thomas, Joseph and Jonathan; and if "proof' exist that this Willaim was actually from Norfolk, Va.; then there would be a family connection. >From what I see, it looks like William of Blount Co. had a daughter named Mary and William of Norfolk had a mother named Mary, and somebody is attempting to connect the families. This of course would not establish a family relationship. George Calvert [email protected]

Laura writes: In my humble opinion, I think it would help us all when getting a message "dies anyone know anything about......Calvert since we have a good basic genealogy to work from, to state whether the branch in question has been noted in Mrs.O'Gormans 'Descendants of Virginia Calverts." (I'm new to the list but have been a genealogist for several years. Laura, Descendants of Virginia Calverts has 719 pages of small print. It was "compiled" by Ella Foy O'Gorman in the 1930's and 1940's, but includes earlier research. Ella's cousin, Mary Emily Foy began researching the Calvert family before 1909, and Mrs. Verna Outwater of the Calvert Heirs Association assembled volumes of information from some type of mailing that was posted around 1912. We Calverts are very fortunate to have so many old letters, family stories, etc. preserved in this book. The negative side is that the book is limited to certain branches of the family. Also, many of the family lines stop back in the 1800's. Finally, lookups are often very difficult, it would be a lot better to have the book computerized. I thought it might be helpful to once again list the table of contents from Descendants of Virginia Calverts. VIRGINIA AND OTHER CALVERTS Book I Part I. Miscellaneous Records PartII. George Calvert, 1st Lord Baltimore, to Descendants of John No. 29 and George No. 30 of Prince William and Cullpepper Counties, Va. 1-4586 Book II Calvert alias Harrison 4901-4959 Book III Christopher of Amherst 5001-5483 Book IV Christopher of Accomac 5901-5935 Book V Cornelius of Norfolk 6001-6135 Book VI John of Frederick 6201-6338 Book VII Hance of Augusta 6501-6518 Book VIII William of Bedford 6601-6666 Book IX Miscellaneous 6801-6833 Book X David of Giles Co., Tenn. 6901-6932 Book XI John of Elbert Co., Ga. 7001-7050 Book XII William Calvert and Elizabeth Nodding 7101-7428 Book XIII Robert of Graves Co., Ky. 7501-7527 Book XIV Patrick of Vanderburgh Co., Ind. 7601-7669 Book XV Johathan of Ala., Mo., and Tex. 7701-7737 Book XVI Jesse G. of Wilcox Co., Ala. 7801-7811 Book XVII William of Chesterfield 7901-8081 George Calvert [email protected]

Ok, before this goes any further... Laura, sometimes when people post their queries to the list they don't know anything about the Calvert book, and they don't really know much about the ancestor they are looking for. That is why they are coming to the list in the first place. I know I for one don't have a copy of the O'Gorman (although am hoping to purchase/obtain one soon) so I can't look up page numbers, etc. for my line nor can I do so for any other researcher, so usually I send them to the list with their questions. So your request is really not a reasonable one in all cases. Sorry. Bob, your query was just fine, but your reaction to Laura's post is not. Please everyone, if you have a problem with a person or an action on the list, contact me personally and do not send to the list. Thank you! Christi Visit our homepage at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cbrogan Visit our genealogy pages at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cbrogan/gen.html Country living at it's finest! http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/countrylife -----Original Message----- From: Bob McKeal [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 11:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CALVERT-L] O'Gorman citation Now I'm sorry to ask my sorry damm question! I was just looking to see if anyone from my line was on line! ----- Original Message ----- From: Laura Crane <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 2:33 PM Subject: [CALVERT-L] O'Gorman citation > In my humble opinion, I think it would help us all when getting a message "dies anyone know anything about......Calvert > since we have a good basic genealogy to work from, to state whether the branch in question has been noted in Mrs.O'Gormans 'Descendants of Virginia Calverts." (I'm new to the list but have been a genealogist for several years. > > > ==== CALVERT Mailing List ==== > Any list problems or questions can be sent to the listowner, Christi Calvert Brogan at [email protected] > ==== CALVERT Mailing List ==== Any list problems or questions can be sent to the listowner, Christi Calvert Brogan at [email protected]

Now I'm sorry to ask my sorry damm question! I was just looking to see if anyone from my line was on line! ----- Original Message ----- From: Laura Crane <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 2:33 PM Subject: [CALVERT-L] O'Gorman citation > In my humble opinion, I think it would help us all when getting a message "dies anyone know anything about......Calvert > since we have a good basic genealogy to work from, to state whether the branch in question has been noted in Mrs.O'Gormans 'Descendants of Virginia Calverts." (I'm new to the list but have been a genealogist for several years. > > > ==== CALVERT Mailing List ==== > Any list problems or questions can be sent to the listowner, Christi Calvert Brogan at [email protected] >

I've just recently added that coat to the arms page on the Calvert list homepage if anyone like to take a look. It's there along with the one that Gary Lee Calvert graciously supplied and one off of a very old map of MD. The Calvert list homepage is at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cbrogan/calvert.html and the arms page itself is at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cbrogan/ccrests.html BTW, if anyone wants to add to the Calvert list homepage, please feel free to email me. I'd also be happy to put up text documents of people's lines that could like off the webpage if anyone is interested (for example, exported family tree maker reports, etc.) as well as conversions of the Calvert book, etc. Just let me know what you'd like to contribute. It's a group thing :) Christi Visit our homepage at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cbrogan Visit our genealogy pages at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cbrogan/gen.html Country living at it's finest! http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/countrylife -----Original Message----- From: Sgt Mike [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 3:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [CALVERT-L] Calvert "Arms" Heraldica book on Coat of Arms shows that the Lancaster Eng "Arms" for the Calvert family is the same as the Colonial Calvert "Arms" (c1700s) as stated: Sable an inescutcheon within an orle of owls argent; the Crest: A horned owl argent. Families married to the Calverts and Walkes are all showing Arms and Crest. LAWSON, ARMISTEAD, MOSELEY, GOOKIN. (before the war w/ENG) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ M F SMITH, 6 yr Army Vet, Ret, AL, APS Genealogy.......... "http://community.webtv.net/CmbtEngrVet/JUSTAVETERAN" and "http://community.webtv.net/DerDoodler/HARRYSGAHANNA" plus opinion line "http://community.webtv.net/Airacorba/VETERANSOPINION" ==== CALVERT Mailing List ==== Please do not send spam warnings, chain letters, attachements and/or html or rich text formatted email to the list. If in questions, please address the listowner at [email protected]

Hi fellow searchers, I have been reading the emails with interest hoping someone will be related to my John Calvert b. 1828, Slyvanus b. 1833, James W. b. 1835 and Franklin M. b. 1845, all in Belmont County. Their father was James and mother Eleanor McPhadon. James the father was born somewhere in Virginia ca 1806. John, my g. grandfather later migrated to Michigan by the mid 1850's and married Hannah Tisdale. His brothers also moved to Michigan and are buried there. Hope someday we connect. Norma H.

Hi all, Lets keep this discussion on the Belmont Calverts going, I see some clues that may help unlock some mysteries that we have struggled with for years. The part about a Calvert marrying a Jane Mercer is really interesting as a marriage record can be found in PA. for Benjamin Taylor and Jane Mercer. No record has been found naming Benjamin Taylor and Jane Calvert, though we know through legal documents that Benjamin Taylor was listed with John Calverts heirs, on at least one document. John and Jacob Calvert owned most of section 31 or 32 in Mead Twp. and the parents of Benjamin Taylor owned land between the two. Jacob owned quite a bit of land, and is recorded as the founder of Jacobsburg, Belmont Co. Ohio in several different books concerning Belmont Co. history. The Mercer family of John Mercer, I believe lived in York Twp. which is just below Mead on the border of Monroe Co. Sue, do you have any background on how Hannah came to be known as Hanna Mercer Calvert. The Mercer name may be one of the pieces of this puzzle that has been missing. If not, at least we will have some fun trying to run something down. regards, Tim

Heraldica book on Coat of Arms shows that the Lancaster Eng "Arms" for the Calvert family is the same as the Colonial Calvert "Arms" (c1700s) as stated: Sable an inescutcheon within an orle of owls argent; the Crest: A horned owl argent. Families married to the Calverts and Walkes are all showing Arms and Crest. LAWSON, ARMISTEAD, MOSELEY, GOOKIN. (before the war w/ENG) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ M F SMITH, 6 yr Army Vet, Ret, AL, APS Genealogy.......... "http://community.webtv.net/CmbtEngrVet/JUSTAVETERAN" and "http://community.webtv.net/DerDoodler/HARRYSGAHANNA" plus opinion line "http://community.webtv.net/Airacorba/VETERANSOPINION"

In my humble opinion, I think it would help us all when getting a message "dies anyone know anything about......Calvert since we have a good basic genealogy to work from, to state whether the branch in question has been noted in Mrs.O'Gormans 'Descendants of Virginia Calverts." (I'm new to the list but have been a genealogist for several years.