I'm sorry to be unclear. Horsley was Dora's middle name and she was an unusual woman so after her husband (Lem(m)ing died, I don't know whether she would have used her maiden name. Also, she spells Leming both ways and, in fact, I think she dropped the m when she came to California from Idaho about 1930. I know she never married again after Wagner, but she lived until the early 70s. So I don't thinks she is this Dora. Even more confusing, I believe she started going by Elizabeth Wagner at some point. This is why I have had such a hard time. She was a young widow as of 1925 and I believe it affected many decisions she made after that. Thanks for your help and your patience--I appreciate your efforts. Melody -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael McTeer Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 7:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CALOSANG] Benjamin Franklin H.S. Classes of 1922 (WAGNER) I do not wish to sound rude Melody, but the second part of your request is quite vague. I do not understand if you are trying to say if Dora's maiden name was HORSLEY or LEM[M]ING or neither. When you say he married a man named WAGNER, I cannot tell if you are trying to imply that she later remarried another. There are some online directories at the Los Angele Public Library starting with 1929: http://rescarta.lapl.org:8080/ResCarta-Web/jsp/RcWebSimpleSearch.jsp I found one Dora, wife of an Arthur L. WAGNER: ADD: (1929) WAGNER Arth L (Dora) clk h3428 Garden av, Los Angeles, CA ADD: (1938) WAGNER Arth L (Dora) clk h3428 Garden av, Los Angeles, CA ADD: (1942) WAGNER Arth L (Dora) clk h3428 Garden av, Los Angeles, CA My eye sight is quite poor so there might have been more. This Arthur was widowed by Dec 1950 as reported in the Los Angeles TIMES: NEWS: Los Angeles TIMES 14 Dec 1950, Page A10, Home Display Set Up Again by Handyman. Arthur WAGNER, 69[1881], a widower who loves children...his house at 3428 Garden Ave. in the Atwater District...WAGNER retired in 1946 from an electrical concern. Prior to that he had been employed in the mailroom of the Times for 15 years. Michael McTeer 29 Palms, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melody Wilson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [CALOSANG] Benjamin Franklin H.S. Classes of 1922 Hi. I would like to try to find out which Los Angeles high school my father went to in the mid to late thirties. Does anyone know how I might do that? Also, my grandmother (Dora Horsley Lem(m)ing) married a man with the last name of Wagner at some point--probably in Los Angeles in the early thirties. Do you know how I could track that? Thanks. Melody ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Melody: You said that your found your grandmother in the directories under LEMMING/LEMING which I found to be the widow of William D. LEMMING. You said you believed that HORSLEY was your grandmother's middle name and not her maiden name. I found 1910 and 1920 Bannock County, ID census listings for a couple WD/William D. and Dora. Both gave AR-IL-KY for her place and parents' birth locations. I found a Dorrah HORSLEY and her brother Walter living with her grandmother Salley MORGAN in Benton Co., AR for the 1900 census. This Dorrah was born Dec 1883, AR-IL-KY. The CA Death index has a number of possible relatives (e.g., the Katherine GIBSON and Ada TOWSE, mother OAKLEY, father HORSLEY are probably from Benton where I noted those names also listed). Michael ADD: (1936) LEMING Eliz (wid Wm) h5506 S San Pedro, Los Angeles, CA ADD: (1938) LEMMING Dora Mrs h5506 S San Pedro, Los Angeles, CA ADD: (1939) LEMING Dora (wid W D) h5506 S San Pedro, Los Angeles, CA ADD: (1942) LEMING Eliz D (wid W D) h127 86th pl, Los Angeles, CA 1910 > IDAHO > BANNOCK > POCATELLO 5-PCT Series: T624 Roll: 221 Page: 261 Surname GivenName Age Sex Race Birthplace State County Location Year LEMMING W D 0 M MO ID BANNOCK POCATELLO 5-PCT 1910 ------------------------------------------------------------- LEMMING, W. D. age 28[1882], M1/8, MO TX AR, Fireman, Railroad LEMMING, Dora, wife, age 26[1884], M1/8, 3/3 AR IL KY LEMMING, Thelma, dau, age 5, ID MO AR LEMMING, Herbert, son, age 4, ID MO AR LEMMING, Bernard, son, age 2, ID MO AR 1920 > IDAHO > BANNOCK > 2-WD; POCATELLO CITY; 7-PCT Series: T625 Roll: 288 Page: 277 Surname GivenName Age Sex Race Birthplace State County Location Year LEMMING WILLIAM 38 M W KS ID BANNOCK 2-WD; POCATELLO CITY; 7-PCT 1920 889 E. Clark, Pocatello City, KS ----------------------------------- LEMMING, William, age 38[1882], KS AR AR, Locomative Engineer. LEMMING, Dora, wife, age 35[1885], AR IL KY LEMMING, Thelma, dau, age 13, ID KS AR LEMMING, Herbert, son, age 11, ID KS AR LEMMING, Harold, son, age 8, ID KS AR LEMMING, Beula, dau, age 5, ID KS AR 1900 > ARKANSAS > BENTON > WASHINGTON TWP Series: T623 Roll: 50 Page: 192 Surname GivenName Age Sex Race Birthplace State County Location Year MORGAN SALLEY 64 F W KY AR BENTON WASHINGTON TWP 1900 1900 > ARKANSAS > BENTON > WASHINGTON TWP Series: T623 Roll: 50 Page: 192 Surname GivenName Age Sex Race Birthplace State County Location Year HORSLEY DORRAH 17 F W AR AR BENTON WASHINGTON TWP 1900 1900 > ARKANSAS > BENTON > WASHINGTON TWP Series: T623 Roll: 50 Page: 192 Surname GivenName Age Sex Race Birthplace State County Location Year SONDERS MOLLIE 45 F W KY AR BENTON WASHINGTON TWP 1900 --------------------------------------------------------------- MORGAN?, Salley, head, Oct? 1836, age 68, wd, 13/11, KY KY KY Farmer MORGAN?, James?, son, Jan 1875, age 25, single, KY VA KY Farmer MORGAN? Harry, son, Apr 1880, age 20, single, KY VA KY Farm Labor HORSLEY, Dorrah, gd, Dec 1883, age 16, AR IL KY HORSLEY, Walter, gs, Apr 1886, age 14, AR IL KY SONDERS?, Mollie, dau, Aug 1844, age 46, single, KY VA KY 1910 > ARKANSAS > BENTON > WASHINGTON TWP Series: T624 Roll: 44 Page: 210 Surname GivenName Age Sex Race Birthplace State County Location Year MORGAN SALLIE A 73 F W KY AR BENTON WASHINGTON TWP 1910 ---------------------------------------------------------------- MORGAN, Sallie A., head, age 73, w, 13/11, KY KY KY Farmer MORGAN, Harvey, son, age 30, single, KY VA KY Farmer 1920 > ARKANSAS > BENTON > ROGERS; ESCULAPIA Series: T625 Roll: 54 Page: 154 Surname GivenName Age Sex Race Birthplace State County Location Year MORGAN HARVEY 39 M W KY AR BENTON ROGERS; ESCULAPIA 1920 ------------------------------------------------------------------ MORGAN, Harvey, head, 39, m, KY VA KY, Farmer MORGAN, Amy, wife, 35, m, AR, MO, AR MORGAN, Ray?, son, 5, AR KY AR MORGAN, Henry, son, 1 8/12, AR KY AR MORGAN, Sarah A., mother, 80, wd, KY KY KY CA Death Index? LEMING TED LAVERNE 01/08/1923 M:HOARSELY M IDAHO LOS ANGELES(19) 12/21/1983 556-28-7115 60 yrs TED LEMING 08 Jan 1923 Dec 1983 90805 (Long Beach, Los Angeles, CA) (none specified) 556-28-7115 California LEMMING HOWARD H 09/04/1909 M:HORSLEY M IDAHO LOS ANGELES(70) 08/05/1967 552-28-1706 57 yrs LEMMING MARY A 10/15/1883 M:MOSER F IDAHO CONTRA COSTA 05/25/1964 80 yrs LEMMING ARTHUR N 10/20/1893 M ARKANSAS CONTRA COSTA 11/30/1972 321-09-5768 79 yrs SSAN: ARTHUR LEMMING 20 Oct 1893 Nov 1972 93454 (Santa Maria, Santa Barbara, CA) (none specified) 321-09-5768 Illinois HORSLEY HERBERT LEE 03/22/1906 M:CUNNINGHAM M ARKANSAS KERN 05/03/1989 554-22-7818 83 yrs GIBSON KATHERINE H 09/28/1880 OAKLEY HORSLEY F ARKANSAS SAN BERNARDINO 01/16/1951 70 yrs ROGERS LUCIE S 03/22/1872 HORSLEY F ARKANSAS LOS ANGELES(19) 07/09/1940 68 yrs TOWSE ADA 05/22/1875 OAKLEY HORSLEY F ARKANSAS RIVERSIDE 08/23/1945 70 yrs ROGERS WILLIAM BURREL 06/28/1896 M:HORSLEY F:ROGERS M ARKANSAS LOS ANGELES(19) 02/26/1944 107-09-3990 47 yrs SEXTON KATHLEEN BEEBE 10/10/1905 M:HORSLEY F:BEEBE F ARKANSAS LOS ANGELES(19) 07/27/1983 571-20-8308