Thanks for checking these out. I'm still struggling to learn which indices are available for which various states. But knowing that George's was out there, I was able to locate it at http://www.italiangen.org/NYCDeathSearch.asp which is a really cool resource. I knew they had marriages, but didn't know deaths were there as well, thank you. Someone else found Anna's death notice and wrote me off list. Unfortunately, you're right. It is brief, no info about relatives in it, just a funeral announcement. This family is a challenge as their descendants spread out all across the country, and I haven't had great luck with locating those not in California. But I will persist! Thanks, tc On 6/5/08, Mark Lomax <[email protected]> wrote: > Unless they were prominent people, it is unlikely that you will find an > obituary for either one in the Los Angeles Times. And, in fact, I found > none in the online Historical Los Angeles Times Archive. Your best bet for > locating their place of burial and next of kin is to order Anna's death > certificate from the California Dept. of Public Health or from the Los > Angeles Registrar-Recorder/County Clerk; the cost is $12. > > I located a listing for George's death in the NYC death index. It's > Manhattan cert. #11785. You can order George's death certificate from the > NYC Municipal Archives; the cost is $10 if you provide the certificate > number with your order. Here's a link to the municipal archives webpage: > > http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vitalrecords/death.shtml > > Mark Lomax