Hi Margaret, I love receiving replies to my queiries, but your response has totally confused me.....smiles!! I'm not sure what you meant by handwritten numbers on the manifest of the Galveston arrival record usually indicate the court where the naturalization took place? I already have the Galveston arrival record (his immigration) and am not sure what that would have to do with naturalization records? He moved on to CA, which is where his naturalization was at least "declared as an intent". I have since obtained a copy of that "Declaration of Intention" in CA, and I'm happy to say, he's my man! Either we are talking about two different issues or perhaps, most likely actually, I totally misunderstood the intent of your reply. But thanks for your good intentions in replying. If you can help me understand further what you meant, I'd be happy to listen. Luana [email protected] wrote: > The Galveston arrival record lists handwritten numbers on the manifest.? These numbers usually indicate the court where naturalization took place.? You might check with NARA if they could help you decode the numbers. > Margaret > > > -----Original Message----- > From: LS <[email protected]> > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Sent: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 1:51 pm > Subject: [CALOSANG] Footnote.com - Found Declaration of Intention - have questions > > > > Hello fellow listers, > > I'm pretty excited. I have just found a real possibility of an > ancestor's "Declaration on Intention". First, some background of what > little I know. His name is Richard Max Krause. He was born in Germany > abt. 1902. He seems to have immigrated to the U.S through the Port of > Galveston, Texas, arriving 1/1/1930 at 27 years of age. His final > destination is listed as Duarte, CA. If I am following the correct man, > he died 7/13/1968 in Los Angeles Co., residence 929 W. Walnut, Monrovia, > which is very close to Duarte. Parents listed as Mathew & Ann Krause, > married; spouse is Fran. Buried Live Oak Cemetery , which is in > Monrovia. I also have a birth record of his son in 1934 and his address > at that time was in Hollywood, the child's mother's residence in Covina > (her name was Berniece). Covina is also in the vicinity of Monrovia and > Duarte. I have doubts they ever married, they lived at different > residences and she was 13 years younger (at 19 yrs old). The son at > some point later took on the surname Temple (possibly through a > step-father), which was the only name I ever knew. I never knew he was > actually born a Krause until I obtained his death record (as a Temple) > which lists his father's name as Richard Krause b. Germany. and > subsequently his birth record (obviously as a Krause) listing his father > as Richard Max Krause, b. Germany. From those two records, I was able > to research backwards to the rest of the above. For the life of me, I > cannot find this Richard Max Krause in the 1930 U.S. census records. He > should be in TX, CA or somewhere en route in between with the census > that year taken in April. > > On Footnote.com , the Declaration of Intention I found is for one > Richard Max Krause, birth country Germany, the document year being 1931. > The publication title is* *Naturalization Petitions for the Southern > District Of California, 1887-1940. Ok, so this seems to fit very well. > I am only a free basic member of Footnote, so I don't have access to the > image. My questions are, can someone who has actually obtained a record > such as this around 1931 tell me what I might gain from purchasing the > image? Or better yet, is there anyone with full access to Footnote that > would be willing to look at the image and tell me if what it shows could > be the same person I'm researching or at least tell me the "kind" of > information it provides? I want an idea of what is found on a ca. 1931 > "Intention" record, ie; current address given? parent's names? marriage > status/info?, relatives?, witnesses? Anything to try to connect to this > man that I've had difficulty tracing for many many years. > > Thanks for any help anyone may be able to provide and if anyone thinks > they might connect, please contact me. Much appreciated. > > Luana > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Dear Luana, I'm sorry for any confusion.? Declaration of Intention and Naturalization papers are two different documents.? The information on them likely varies, for example, different addresses would be likely over a 5 year time frame.? Declarations of Intention could be filed anytime after arrival.? Naturalizations required at least a 5-year residency.? While it is so, that the Declaration?usually leads to?naturalization, a person?could?file these in different courts.? When naturalization records were verified for accurate arrival information, the arrival manifests were?noted with the court id and other id information of the naturalization case nos.? ?Notice the handwritten numeric information noted on the manifest near the line where your ancestor is listed.? If the court code is decoded, then you can pursue the naturalization documents.? ?I imagine that your local NARA office would be helpful in decoding the court name and lead you to the naturalization document.? I hope this inform! ation is helpful or at least interesting. Margaret???? -----Original Message----- From: LS <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 10:50 pm Subject: Re: [CALOSANG] Footnote.com - Found Declaration of Intention - have questions Hi Margaret, I love receiving replies to my queiries, but your response has totally confused me.....smiles!! I'm not sure what you meant by handwritten numbers on the manifest of the Galveston arrival record usually indicate the court where the naturalization took place? I already have the Galveston arrival record (his immigration) and am not sure what that would have to do with naturalization records? He moved on to CA, which is where his naturalization was at least "declared as an intent". I have since obtained a copy of that "Declaration of Intention" in CA, and I'm happy to say, he's my man! Either we are talking about two different issues or perhaps, most likely actually, I totally misunderstood the intent of your reply. But thanks for your good intentions in replying. If you can help me understand further what you meant, I'd be happy to listen. Luana [email protected] wrote: > The Galveston arrival record lists handwritten numbers on the manifest.? These numbers usually indicate the court where naturalization took place.? You might check with NARA if they could help you decode the numbers. > Margaret > > > -----Original Message----- > From: LS <[email protected]> > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Sent: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 1:51 pm > Subject: [CALOSANG] Footnote.com - Found Declaration of Intention - have questions > > > > Hello fellow listers, > > I'm pretty excited. I have just found a real possibility of an > ancestor's "Declaration on Intention". First, some background of what > little I know. His name is Richard Max Krause. He was born in Germany > abt. 1902. He seems to have immigrated to the U.S through the Port of > Galveston, Texas, arriving 1/1/1930 at 27 years of age. His final > destination is listed as Duarte, CA. If I am following the correct man, > he died 7/13/1968 in Los Angeles Co., residence 929 W. Walnut, Monrovia, > which is very close to Duarte. Parents listed as Mathew & Ann Krause, > married; spouse is Fran. Buried Live Oak Cemetery , which is in > Monrovia. I also have a birth record of his son in 1934 and his address > at that time was in Hollywood, the child's mother's residence in Covina > (her name was Berniece). Covina is also in the vicinity of Monrovia and > Duarte. I have doubts they ever married, they lived at different > residences and she was 13 years younger (at 19 yrs old). The son at > some point later took on the surname Temple (possibly through a > step-father), which was the only name I ever knew. I never knew he was > actually born a Krause until I obtained his death record (as a Temple) > which lists his father's name as Richard Krause b. Germany. and > subsequently his birth record (obviously as a Krause) listing his father > as Richard Max Krause, b. Germany. From those two records, I was able > to research backwards to the rest of the above. For the life of me, I > cannot find this Richard Max Krause in the 1930 U.S. census records. He > should be in TX, CA or somewhere en route in between with the census > that year taken in April. > > On Footnote.com , the Declaration of Intention I found is for one > Richard Max Krause, birth country Germany, the document year being 1931. > The publication title is* *Naturalization Petitions for the Southern > District Of California, 1887-1940. Ok, so this seems to fit very well. > I am only a free basic member of Footnote, so I don't have access to the > image. My questions are, can someone who has actually obtained a record > such as this around 1931 tell me what I might gain from purchasing the > image? Or better yet, is there anyone with full access to Footnote that > would be willing to look at the image and tell me if what it shows could > be the same person I'm researching or at least tell me the "kind" of > information it provides? I want an idea of what is found on a ca. 1931 > "Intention" record, ie; current address given? parent's names? marriage > status/info?, relatives?, witnesses? Anything to try to connect to this > man that I've had difficulty tracing for many many years. > > Thanks for any help anyone may be able to provide and if anyone thinks > they might connect, please contact me. Much appreciated. > > Luana >