Kathy, >From my experience, instruction and understanding with these records, the SS death index would be more accurate with her birth date, since she was the actual person to fill out the application. But in order to be 100% accurate on that, you would need to purchase her ss-5 card application from the social security administration to see what she wrote down. Her last benefit may not have been claimed by a living person until that later year. The California death index record is probably closer to the correct death date because that form is filled out right after death to create the death certificate, but the person remembering when she was born, the informant, wasn't real accurate. Do you have any other records that would show a birth year or age, like a census record or marriage record? If you have the death certificate, it will show the burial information, mortuary, cemetery, or cremation info. You can also contact the company that prepared her remains for whatever took place there to see what their records have for her. Human error is also possible. The transcribers who indexed the records may have hit the wrong key on either of the online records. It just goes to show ya, that you have to take everything with a grain of salt and continue to try and get more records that she actually was alive to fill out. Even official records can be inaccurate. I purchased my grandmother's ss-5 application which she filled out herself, it had her correct birth date and mother's name and place of birth, but the rest of the parental information was wrong. She was married to her 2nd husband at the time, used her 1st husband's father's information as hers. I had learned that her real father died when she was real young, she never knew him and she married her first husband when she was 15 yrs old. I would say that would indicate any number of reasons why wrong information was on the application. I hope this has helped in some way. Keep hunting for more records to match the dates. Good luck to you. Loretta > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 01:18:44 -0600 > From: kaytt <[email protected]> > Subject: [CALOSANG] Same SSN number and name, different birth & death > dates in CDI & SSN > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; > reply-type=original > > These two indexes are undoubtedly for the same person, both having the same > SSN. However the birth year is different on each and the death dates have a > different day, month and year. > What could be the reason for this, and which one is likely to be the right > one? > > > California Death Index: > Name: MANNING, LEONTINE POSIENNE > Social Security #: 561-28-4214 > Sex: Female > Birth Date: 25 July 1893 > Birthplace: NEW JERSEY > Death Date: 24 Jun 1983 > Death Place: LOS ANGELES (19) > Mother's Maiden Name: > Father's Surname: > > > SSN Index: > Name: Leontine P. Manning > SSN: 561-28-4214 > Last Residence: 91506 Burbank, Los Angeles, California, United States of > America > Born: 25 Jul 1892 > Died: 17 Mar 1989 > State (Year) SSN issued: California (Before 1951 ) > _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008

Thanks for the information and all of your suggestions. I was able to fine Leontine Possienne (and surname variations) on the following census. 1900 age 6 (born about 1894) 1910 age 17 (born about 1893) 1920 (can't find her) 1930 age 33 (born about 1897) As you can see, she lost a few years in 1930. Her husband was younger so that could have something to do with it. I might have to look into purchasing a death cert. so I can find out when and where she was buried and then carry on from there. Kathy From: "Loretta Mikolyski" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 5:38 AM >>From my experience, instruction and understanding with these records, the >>SS death index would be more accurate with her birth date, since she was >>the actual person to fill out the application. But in order to be 100% >>accurate on that, you would need to purchase her ss-5 card application >>from the social security administration to see what she wrote down. Her >>last benefit may not have been claimed by a living person until that later >>year. > > The California death index record is probably closer to the correct death > date because that form is filled out right after death to create the death > certificate, but the person remembering when she was born, the informant, > wasn't real accurate. Do you have any other records that would show a > birth year or age, like a census record or marriage record? If you have > the death certificate, it will show the burial information, mortuary, > cemetery, or cremation info. You can also contact the company that > prepared her remains for whatever took place there to see what their > records have for her. > > Human error is also possible. The transcribers who indexed the records > may have hit the wrong key on either of the online records. It just goes > to show ya, that you have to take everything with a grain of salt and > continue to try and get more records that she actually was alive to fill > out. Even official records can be inaccurate. > I purchased my grandmother's ss-5 application which she filled out > herself, it had her correct birth date and mother's name and place of > birth, but the rest of the parental information was wrong. She was > married to her 2nd husband at the time, used her 1st husband's father's > information as hers. I had learned that her real father died when she was > real young, she never knew him and she married her first husband when she > was 15 yrs old. I would say that would indicate any number of reasons why > wrong information was on the application. > >> From: kaytt <[email protected]> >> Subject: [CALOSANG] Same SSN number and name, different birth & death >> dates in CDI & SSN >> >> These two indexes are undoubtedly for the same person, both having the >> same >> SSN. However the birth year is different on each and the death dates >> have a >> different day, month and year. >> What could be the reason for this, and which one is likely to be the >> right >> one? >> >> >> California Death Index: >> Name: MANNING, LEONTINE POSIENNE >> Social Security #: 561-28-4214 >> Sex: Female >> Birth Date: 25 July 1893 >> Birthplace: NEW JERSEY >> Death Date: 24 Jun 1983 >> Death Place: LOS ANGELES (19) >> Mother's Maiden Name: >> Father's Surname: >> >> >> SSN Index: >> Name: Leontine P. Manning >> SSN: 561-28-4214 >> Last Residence: 91506 Burbank, Los Angeles, California, United States of >> America >> Born: 25 Jul 1892 >> Died: 17 Mar 1989 >> State (Year) SSN issued: California (Before 1951 ) >> >