Thankyou to all for the helpful replies both on and off list. I was asked who was charging me $37-50 for postage (It was $18-50 to a US address as well!) I was ordering through rootsweb and something called Vitalcheck that the site takes you to in the shopping cart. http://vitals.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ca/death/search.cgi I just went there and did another search to check which site it was I used and this time I specified a date of death rather than birth date and I got two entries! I am wondering if this is father and son or perhaps grandson and perhaps they were both killed in an accident since they both have the same date of death. The plot thickens! Results 1-2 of 2 Last Name First Name Middle Birth Date Mother Maiden Father Last Sex Birth Place Death Place Residence Death Date SSN Age Post-ems Order Record SHAW WILLIAM T 07/11/1868 M LOS ANGELES(70) 11/21/1961 93 yrs SHAW WILLIAM T 11/17/1910 SHAW M LOS ANGELES(70) La Verne 11/21/1961 456-09-9866 51 yrs Using the site Joseph did below the second William was born in Texas. I would not be surprised then that the first one is the Pennsylvanian one in the SSDI This family did not stay still! I have chased them all over the world. I think I will send for both certificates. In the circumstances would it be worth getting both of the SSDIs as well? Regards Lyn > Lyn: > > The California Death Index states the following: > > SHAW WILLIAM T > 11 21 1961 > LOS ANGELES > M > 07 11 1868 IRELAND > > http://ec2-50-17-134-227.compute-1.amazonaws.com/cadisearch.php > > The Social Security Death Index lists the following which may > or may not be him. This person received his social security > card while in Pennsylvania and may have later moved to California. > > SHAW, WILLIAM Jan 0000 Nov 1961 err (not > specified) (none specified) Pennsylvania 167-09-0942 > > http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi > > > Below is the link for you to get more information about > Birth, Marriage and Death records for Los Angeles [Castaic is > within Los Angeles County]. > > http://www.lavote.net/RECORDER/BDM_Records.cfm > > I checked the Los Angeles Times Historical Newspaper for an > obituary but no luck. > > > Joseph Antunez > In California >