Thank you Nancy, This is great information. I am also trying to find out what happened to Madaline and Wilmer, whether they married etc. Thank you again, Gwyn www.gwynhughes.co.uk > From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 12:24:44 -0400> Subject: Re: [CALOSANG] Margaret and Wilmer Jones> > Gwyn, This could be Wilmer's death info:> > California Death Index, 1940-1997> Name: Wilmer H Jones> Social Security #: 270091823> Sex: MALE> Birth Date: 3 Dec 1888> Birthplace: Kentucky> Death Date: 17 Jun 1961> Death Place: Los Angeles> Mother's Maiden Name: Wise> > Name: Wilmer Hampton Jones> City: Akron> County: Summit> State: Ohio> Birthplace: Kentucky;United States of America> Birth Date: 3 Dec 1888> Race: White> Roll: 1819507> DraftBoard: 2> age: 27y, natural born,> b.Henderson, Kentucky US> add: 611 Phil?? St, Akron Ohio> occ: Telephone repairman, Central Union Tel. Co., Barberton OH> wife + one child, married, white,> prev.mil: Sargent, 9y, National Gd> claim exemption: wife & child,> tall, slender, gray eyes, brown hair,> signed 6/5/17, Akron Ohio> > > ...and their census info:> > Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Cuyahoga Falls, Summit, Ohio;> Roll: 1881; Page: 6B; Enumeration District: 178; Image: 920.0.; taken> Apr.8th, lines 52-55, at 1634 Ohio Ave,> Name: Wilmar Jones> Home in 1930: Cuyahoga Falls, Summit, Ohio> Age: 41> Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889> Birthplace: Kentucky> Relation to Head of House: Head> Spouse's Name: Maggie> Race: White> Household Members: Name Age> Wilmar(looks like Wilmer) Jones 41y, h/h, owns/$7000, has a radio, m, w,> M-1st @27y, KY KY KY, Engineer/Telephone Co, not a veteran,> Maggie Jones 36y [c1894], wife, f, w, M-1st @22y, WALES WALES WALES,> Immig.1912, Na,> Madeline Jones 15y, dau, f, w, attd school, KY KY WALES> Wilmer Jones 5 11/12y, son, m, w, OH KY WALES> > Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Akron Ward 6, Summit, Ohio; Roll:> T625_1440; Page: 11A; Enumeration District: 190; Image: 765.> Name: Wilber H Jobes [Wilber H Jones]> Home in 1920: Akron Ward 6, Summit, Ohio> Age: 29 years> Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891> Birthplace: Kentucky> Relation to Head of House: Head> Spouse's Name: Maggie> Father's Birth Place: Kentucky> Mother's Birth Place: Kentucky> Marital Status: Married> Race: White> Sex: Male> Home owned: Own> Able to read: Yes> Able to Write: Yes> Image: 765> Neighbors: View others on page> Household Members: Name Age> Wilber H Jobes 29 KY KY KY> Maggie Jobes 27 WALES WALES WALES> Madaline Jobes 5 KY KY WALES> > > > Nanc> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gwyn Hughes" <[email protected]>> To: <[email protected]>> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 1:35 AM> Subject: [CALOSANG] Margaret and Wilmer Jones> > > > Hi,> Has anyone come across a Margaret Owen and Wilmer Hampton Jones who were> married in Akron but moved to California in the 1930's? Wilmer I think was a> brother to the C&W star Grandpa Jones. Margaret was a cousin to my> grandfather here in Wales. I believe Wilmer was a telephone engineer. They> had 2 children I know of, Madaline and Wilmer jnr. I would really like to> find any information or contact any relatives.> Thanks,> Gwyn> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get all your favourite content with the slick new MSN Toolbar - FREE http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354027/direct/01/

I looked in the Historical LA times' marriage notices and didn't see anything for a Madeline or Wilmer.  sorry. I looked for birth for him too, nada   Julie --- On Fri, 10/3/08, Nancy <[email protected]> wrote: From: Nancy <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [CALOSANG] Margaret and Wilmer Jones To: [email protected] Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 4:58 PM Gwyn, I don't have access to the Los Angeles marriage records after 1927. And I couldn't find a match for Wilmer Jr or Madeline in the CADI; maybe if someone could find a death notice for Wilmer SR it might list his children and where they're living; Or, could Wilmer Jr have moved to Texas? (this one on the chance the SSDI is a year off) Social Security Death Index about Wilmer H. Jones Name: Wilmer H. Jones SSN: 457-28-0231 Last Residence: 79501 Anson, Jones, Texas, United States of America Born: 31 Jul 1925 Died: 6 Oct 2003 State (Year) SSN issued: Texas (Before 1951 ) or to Iowa? Social Security Death Index about Wilmer Jones Name: Wilmer Jones SSN: 481-14-7357 Born: 21 May 1924 Died: Sep 1980 State (Year) SSN issued: Iowa (Before 1951 ) Nanc

sorry - I put in SHARPE from 10/1-10/2002 and it didn't pull up anything.  I chose the LA Times and the other California papers that I can search with an LA library card offsite.  Sorry.  Unfortunately we are notoriously bad at doing obits.  there might have been one in the local paper, but I live an hour south and don't know what it would be - sorry   Juie --- On Thu, 10/2/08, Joe Walker <[email protected]> wrote: From: Joe Walker <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [CALOSANG] Frances E. SHARPE To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, October 2, 2008, 10:39 PM My $12 to order is would be just as good as yours...you can get an informational copy for $12 at http://www.lavote.net/RECORDER/BDM_Records.cfm It is easier than composing an E-mail..if you need help, let me know.  Takes about 10 days to get back. Joe --- On Thu, 10/2/08, Tudemurdog <[email protected]> wrote: From: Tudemurdog <[email protected]> Subject: [CALOSANG] Frances E. SHARPE To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, October 2, 2008, 5:39 PM Could someone in the area of South El Monte look up an obit and/or death certificate for Frances E. SHARPE dod Oct. 5, 2002? Thanks in advance... Judy, Great Dane rescuer, GA www.petfinder.org/shelters/GA363.html www.fullrunfarm.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

What is website address please? Thanks, Adrienne --- On Fri, 10/3/08, mstephen <[email protected]> wrote: From: mstephen <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [CALOSANG] [SOCAL] [NORCAL] LA Co. Bride Index reversals To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 4:17 PM I was consulting the LA County Bride Index available by subscription to vitalsearch. It is a filming of the LA County marriage books, and one must scroll through each page after putting in a search surname and getting to the beginning of that section of the marriage book. The book itself is the index made by the county; the bride names are chronological within the sections, usually the first three letters of the surname, i.e., "Hea" or "Hen"; the names themselves are not indexed. Marie -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [SOCAL] [NORCAL] LA Co. Bride Index reversals From: Betty <[email protected]> To: [email protected], [email protected] Date: 10/3/2008 11:34 AM > Would you please share the address for the LA county marriage index??? > Thanks > Betty ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I was consulting the LA County Bride Index available by subscription to vitalsearch. It is a filming of the LA County marriage books, and one must scroll through each page after putting in a search surname and getting to the beginning of that section of the marriage book. The book itself is the index made by the county; the bride names are chronological within the sections, usually the first three letters of the surname, i.e., "Hea" or "Hen"; the names themselves are not indexed. Marie -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [SOCAL] [NORCAL] LA Co. Bride Index reversals From: Betty <[email protected]> To: [email protected], [email protected] Date: 10/3/2008 11:34 AM > Would you please share the address for the LA county marriage index??? > Thanks > Betty

Would anyone know how I could go about finding a marriage date when I DO NOT know the date or year? I only know the names of the bride and groom. Nancy in NOLA

Gwyn, This could be Wilmer's death info: California Death Index, 1940-1997 Name: Wilmer H Jones Social Security #: 270091823 Sex: MALE Birth Date: 3 Dec 1888 Birthplace: Kentucky Death Date: 17 Jun 1961 Death Place: Los Angeles Mother's Maiden Name: Wise Name: Wilmer Hampton Jones City: Akron County: Summit State: Ohio Birthplace: Kentucky;United States of America Birth Date: 3 Dec 1888 Race: White Roll: 1819507 DraftBoard: 2 age: 27y, natural born, b.Henderson, Kentucky US add: 611 Phil?? St, Akron Ohio occ: Telephone repairman, Central Union Tel. Co., Barberton OH wife + one child, married, white, prev.mil: Sargent, 9y, National Gd claim exemption: wife & child, tall, slender, gray eyes, brown hair, signed 6/5/17, Akron Ohio ...and their census info: Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Cuyahoga Falls, Summit, Ohio; Roll: 1881; Page: 6B; Enumeration District: 178; Image: 920.0.; taken Apr.8th, lines 52-55, at 1634 Ohio Ave, Name: Wilmar Jones Home in 1930: Cuyahoga Falls, Summit, Ohio Age: 41 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889 Birthplace: Kentucky Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Maggie Race: White Household Members: Name Age Wilmar(looks like Wilmer) Jones 41y, h/h, owns/$7000, has a radio, m, w, M-1st @27y, KY KY KY, Engineer/Telephone Co, not a veteran, Maggie Jones 36y [c1894], wife, f, w, M-1st @22y, WALES WALES WALES, Immig.1912, Na, Madeline Jones 15y, dau, f, w, attd school, KY KY WALES Wilmer Jones 5 11/12y, son, m, w, OH KY WALES Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Akron Ward 6, Summit, Ohio; Roll: T625_1440; Page: 11A; Enumeration District: 190; Image: 765. Name: Wilber H Jobes [Wilber H Jones] Home in 1920: Akron Ward 6, Summit, Ohio Age: 29 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891 Birthplace: Kentucky Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Maggie Father's Birth Place: Kentucky Mother's Birth Place: Kentucky Marital Status: Married Race: White Sex: Male Home owned: Own Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Image: 765 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Wilber H Jobes 29 KY KY KY Maggie Jobes 27 WALES WALES WALES Madaline Jobes 5 KY KY WALES Nanc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gwyn Hughes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 1:35 AM Subject: [CALOSANG] Margaret and Wilmer Jones Hi, Has anyone come across a Margaret Owen and Wilmer Hampton Jones who were married in Akron but moved to California in the 1930's? Wilmer I think was a brother to the C&W star Grandpa Jones. Margaret was a cousin to my grandfather here in Wales. I believe Wilmer was a telephone engineer. They had 2 children I know of, Madaline and Wilmer jnr. I would really like to find any information or contact any relatives. Thanks, Gwyn

Hi Nancy~ Depending on the time frame of the marriage, there may be indexes available. Do you know when they were born, a possible date range for the marriage to have taken place or anything of that nature? Any information you can give would help. If you could provide the names and any other information you have, I can try to help or point you in the right direction. Take care, and good luck! "-) Justina "-) On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 12:05 PM, wgalkow <[email protected]> wrote: > > Would anyone know how I could go about finding a marriage date when I DO > NOT know the date or year? I only know the names of the bride and groom. > Nancy in NOLA

Give us the names and other data re the couple. Maybe we can figure out something. ----- Original Message ----- From: "wgalkow" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [CALOSANG] Marriage Question > > Would anyone know how I could go about finding a marriage date when I DO > NOT know the date or year? I only know the names of the bride and groom. > Nancy in NOLA > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks for the lookup.?? Was this lookup from Ancestry.com by any chance?? Lindsey -----Original Message----- From: Michael McTeer <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 7:24 pm Subject: Re: [CALOSANG] obit of Gilbert Lucas Oooppps - transposed the 6 and 4 - what happens when one does it on the fly. Yes the article date is 19 Oct 1964 v. 1946. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [CALOSANG] obit of Gilbert Lucas Are you sure of the year?? She is my grandmother's sister.? Was it 1964? Lindsey -----Original Message----- From: Michael McTeer <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 5:10 pm Subject: Re: [CALOSANG] obit of Gilbert Lucas Did not find an obit for Lucas. There is 19 Oct 1946 funeral announcement for a Mabel G. LUCAS, mother of Jon G. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 1:40 PM Subject: [CALOSANG] obit of Gilbert Lucas Can someone look for this man's obit? died 11-14-1954 Gilbert R. Lucas, spouse was Mabel Lucas Thanks Lindsey ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 2-Oct-08, at 11:20 PM, Nancy wrote: > Could this be his son, wife and daughters? > > Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Los Angeles, Los Angeles, > California; Roll: 147; Page: 8A; Enumeration District: 395; Image: > 775.0., > lines 9-12, at 632 Coronado Terr., taken Apr.7th > Name: George M Huggins > [....] Yes, thank you very much, Nancy. :-) Alison

Hi, Has anyone come across a Margaret Owen and Wilmer Hampton Jones who were married in Akron but moved to California in the 1930's? Wilmer I think was a brother to the C&W star Grandpa Jones. Margaret was a cousin to my grandfather here in Wales. I believe Wilmer was a telephone engineer. They had 2 children I know of, Madaline and Wilmer jnr. I would really like to find any information or contact any relatives. Thanks, Gwyn _________________________________________________________________ Win New York holidays with Kellogg’s & Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354033/direct/01/

While trolling through the LA County (bride) Indexes to Marriages filmed pages I found several couples who were listed incorrectly. In the bride column was the groom, and in the groom column was the bride. I was only looking, unsuccessfully, in the "Hea" and some "Hen" sections for mine (Heintz, Mary Magdalene), but here are the reversed ones that caught my eye. No doubt there are more in the other sections. You might get lucky and find your groom listed instead. 1916 Mar 22 Henry, John H. and Emma L. Reeves 1917 July 17 Hein, John G. and Maude A. Wickersham 1918 Oct 4 Healy, Wm. D. and Fannie L. Eaic [?] 1917 Mar 19 Hendricks, Clarence E. and Irma A. Hill 1917 Sep 14 Herb, Arthur F. and Laura M. Augustine 1919 Aug 12 Heilman, Harry H. and Minnie H. Meyer 1921 Sep 28 Head, Haywood H. and Elva F. Manharris Marie

Many thanks, Mark ... this provides research clues for which I am most grateful. It provides (believe it or not) a linkage between this family in Nova Scotia, on the one hand, and British Columbia, on the other! via Los Angeles :-). Cheers, Alison On 2-Oct-08, at 10:22 PM, Mark Lomax wrote: > Alison: > > His obituary from the Los Angeles Times is attached. > > Mark Lomax > Pasadena, California > > > > On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Alison Kilpatrick > <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello. I'm not sure whether a death notice would be available as > early as 1928. We have had a great deal of difficulty tracking this > man and his family after they left Canada in the early 1920s. All we > know is that he died in Los Angeles. Could someone help, please? > > Alison Kilpatrick > Nova Scotia, Canada

My $12 to order is would be just as good as yours...you can get an informational copy for $12 at http://www.lavote.net/RECORDER/BDM_Records.cfm It is easier than composing an E-mail..if you need help, let me know.  Takes about 10 days to get back. Joe --- On Thu, 10/2/08, Tudemurdog <[email protected]> wrote: From: Tudemurdog <[email protected]> Subject: [CALOSANG] Frances E. SHARPE To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, October 2, 2008, 5:39 PM Could someone in the area of South El Monte look up an obit and/or death certificate for Frances E. SHARPE dod Oct. 5, 2002? Thanks in advance... Judy, Great Dane rescuer, GA www.petfinder.org/shelters/GA363.html www.fullrunfarm.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Could this be his son, wife and daughters? Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California; Roll: 147; Page: 8A; Enumeration District: 395; Image: 775.0., lines 9-12, at 632 Coronado Terr., taken Apr.7th Name: George M Huggins Home in 1930: Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902 Birthplace: Nova Scotia Relation to Head of House: Head Mother's Name: Florence I Race: White Household Members: Name Age George M Huggins 28 h/h, rents/$40, m w, sngl, NovaScotia, parents/same, Immig.1923, Cashier/Electric RR, not a veteran, Florence I Huggins 60 mother, M-1st @19y, NovaScotia, parents/same, Immig.1924 Gladys A Huggins 30 sister, sngl, NovaScotia, parents/same, Immig.1923 Gertrude A Huggins 19 sister, sngl, NovaScotia, parents/same, Immig.1924 CADI: HUGGINS George M, spouse/FI, 68y, d.Los Angeles Co, 10/22/28 HUGGINS GEORGE 1901 11 08 HUGGINS MALE CN LOS ANGELES 1959 04 05 545104253 57 Nanc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alison Kilpatrick" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 8:40 PM Subject: [CALOSANG] OBIT - George M. Huggins, 22 Oct 1928, in Los Angeles > Hello. I'm not sure whether a death notice would be available as > early as 1928. We have had a great deal of difficulty tracking this > man and his family after they left Canada in the early 1920s. All we > know is that he died in Los Angeles. Could someone help, please? > > Alison Kilpatrick > Nova Scotia, Canada > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello. I'm not sure whether a death notice would be available as early as 1928. We have had a great deal of difficulty tracking this man and his family after they left Canada in the early 1920s. All we know is that he died in Los Angeles. Could someone help, please? Alison Kilpatrick Nova Scotia, Canada

Could someone in the area of South El Monte look up an obit and/or death certificate for Frances E. SHARPE dod Oct. 5, 2002? Thanks in advance... Judy, Great Dane rescuer, GA www.petfinder.org/shelters/GA363.html www.fullrunfarm.com

Frank died in 1971, OCt. 17th and I'm not sure but I think Mabel may be his sister and not his wife. Her real name is Maud. Suzan **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

Are you sure of the year?? She is my grandmother's sister.? Was it 1964? Lindsey -----Original Message----- From: Michael McTeer <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 5:10 pm Subject: Re: [CALOSANG] obit of Gilbert Lucas Did not find an obit for Lucas. There is 19 Oct 1946 funeral announcement for a Mabel G. LUCAS, mother of Jon G. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 1:40 PM Subject: [CALOSANG] obit of Gilbert Lucas Can someone look for this man's obit? died 11-14-1954 Gilbert R. Lucas, spouse was Mabel Lucas Thanks Lindsey ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message