I am looking for descendants of Rupert SULLIVAN and Gail GEORGE, daughter of Emby and Lydia GEORGE. The GEORGE family lived in Newport Beach. Rupert and Gail lived in West Los Angeles before relocating to the Sacramento area at some point. I found two results in the Social Security Death Index that matched the information I know. SULLIVAN, RUPERT21 Jan 1922Jan 197956-57(not specified)95694 (Winters, Yolo, CA)California552-10-8489 JOHNSON, GAIL C16 May 191913 May 1991 (V)71-7295605 (West Sacramento, Yolo, CA)(none specified)California568-14-7170 Besides Rupert and Lydia, we (including myself) are all descendants of Wesley Calvin GEORGE and Rebecca Lurana POTEET of South Dakota. http://aaronjhill.wordpress.com/2011/12/08/emby-georges-daughter/ http://aaronjhill.wordpress.com/2011/12/02/fred-george-another-great-grand-uncle/ http://aaronjhill.wordpress.com/category/surnames/george/ -- Aaron

Deborah.. I doubt it.  You definitely were one of the many geneology angels!!   Ordering DCT's is so easy and fast now.    Joe --- On Thu, 12/8/11, Deborah Story <msladyfelix@hotmail.com> wrote: From: Deborah Story <msladyfelix@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [CALOSANG] SHAW Castaic To: calosang@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, December 8, 2011, 4:24 PM Joe, is anyone still checking the posts i did years ago just in case the people are the same? Since I provide 24hr care for mom I have not been able to review these posrs. Have a good holiday Deborah Joe Walker <joe_walker_2000@yahoo.com> wrote: >Lyn.. >Darn!  Just yesterday I was at the Los Angeles County Registrar Recorders looking up death records.  Had I known, I could have copied the info on William Shaw and sent it to you. >  >I have ordered death certificates from them dozens of times.  It costs $12.  Your issue is the postage costs.  I could order it for you and scan it and E-mail it to you for nothing.  Lets talk. >  >Joe Walker >Los Angeles > >--- On Wed, 10/19/11, Antunez, Joseph A <joseph.antunez@csun.edu> wrote: > > >From: Antunez, Joseph A <joseph.antunez@csun.edu> >Subject: Re: [CALOSANG] SHAW Castaic >To: "calosang@rootsweb.com" <calosang@rootsweb.com> >Date: Wednesday, October 19, 2011, 9:13 AM > > >Lyn: > >The California Death Index states the following: > >SHAW     WILLIAM     T >11     21     1961 >LOS ANGELES >M >07     11     1868     IRELAND > >http://ec2-50-17-134-227.compute-1.amazonaws.com/cadisearch.php > >The Social Security Death Index lists the following which may or may not be him. This person received his social security card while in Pennsylvania and may have later moved to California. > >SHAW, WILLIAM    Jan 0000    Nov 1961    err    (not specified)    (none specified)    Pennsylvania    167-09-0942 > >http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi > > >Below is the link for you to get more information about Birth, Marriage and Death records for Los Angeles [Castaic is within Los Angeles County]. > >http://www.lavote.net/RECORDER/BDM_Records.cfm > >I checked the Los Angeles Times Historical Newspaper for an obituary but no luck. > > >Joseph Antunez >In California > > > >On 10/19/11 12:21 AM, "Lyn" <genielynau@bigpond.com> wrote: > >Hi everyone > >I am new to list and American research. I have been tracing my SHAW family >for a number of years. They originated in Belfast Ireland but various >members have spread across the globe to England, Canada, Australia and now >one of them has led me to California. > >His name is William Trimble SHAW and he was born in Belfast 11 July 1868 >and, according to the vital records database, he died in Los Angeles 21 Nov >1961. In 1950 his sister, Sara Campbell SHAW mentions him in her Will as >being of Box 37 Castaic, California. His parents were O'Connell SHAW and >Margaret TRIMBLE. > >I was going to send for his death certificate but as they want $37-50 just >for postage to Australia I am hesitating as I have no idea what information >is on a Californian Death Certificate from that time period. Is anyone able >to enlighten me please? I cannot find him in the SSDI, I am not sure why. > >I would appreciate any help or advice or connection with any of his >descendants if he has any. > >Regards > >Lyn >In Oz. > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CALOSANG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CALOSANG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CALOSANG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CALOSANG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Joe, is anyone still checking the posts i did years ago just in case the people are the same? Since I provide 24hr care for mom I have not been able to review these posrs. Have a good holiday Deborah Joe Walker <joe_walker_2000@yahoo.com> wrote: >Lyn.. >Darn!  Just yesterday I was at the Los Angeles County Registrar Recorders looking up death records.  Had I known, I could have copied the info on William Shaw and sent it to you. >  >I have ordered death certificates from them dozens of times.  It costs $12.  Your issue is the postage costs.  I could order it for you and scan it and E-mail it to you for nothing.  Lets talk. >  >Joe Walker >Los Angeles > >--- On Wed, 10/19/11, Antunez, Joseph A <joseph.antunez@csun.edu> wrote: > > >From: Antunez, Joseph A <joseph.antunez@csun.edu> >Subject: Re: [CALOSANG] SHAW Castaic >To: "calosang@rootsweb.com" <calosang@rootsweb.com> >Date: Wednesday, October 19, 2011, 9:13 AM > > >Lyn: > >The California Death Index states the following: > >SHAW     WILLIAM     T >11     21     1961 >LOS ANGELES >M >07     11     1868     IRELAND > >http://ec2-50-17-134-227.compute-1.amazonaws.com/cadisearch.php > >The Social Security Death Index lists the following which may or may not be him. This person received his social security card while in Pennsylvania and may have later moved to California. > >SHAW, WILLIAM    Jan 0000    Nov 1961    err    (not specified)    (none specified)    Pennsylvania    167-09-0942 > >http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi > > >Below is the link for you to get more information about Birth, Marriage and Death records for Los Angeles [Castaic is within Los Angeles County]. > >http://www.lavote.net/RECORDER/BDM_Records.cfm > >I checked the Los Angeles Times Historical Newspaper for an obituary but no luck. > > >Joseph Antunez >In California > > > >On 10/19/11 12:21 AM, "Lyn" <genielynau@bigpond.com> wrote: > >Hi everyone > >I am new to list and American research. I have been tracing my SHAW family >for a number of years. They originated in Belfast Ireland but various >members have spread across the globe to England, Canada, Australia and now >one of them has led me to California. > >His name is William Trimble SHAW and he was born in Belfast 11 July 1868 >and, according to the vital records database, he died in Los Angeles 21 Nov >1961. In 1950 his sister, Sara Campbell SHAW mentions him in her Will as >being of Box 37 Castaic, California. His parents were O'Connell SHAW and >Margaret TRIMBLE. > >I was going to send for his death certificate but as they want $37-50 just >for postage to Australia I am hesitating as I have no idea what information >is on a Californian Death Certificate from that time period. Is anyone able >to enlighten me please? I cannot find him in the SSDI, I am not sure why. > >I would appreciate any help or advice or connection with any of his >descendants if he has any. > >Regards > >Lyn >In Oz. > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CALOSANG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CALOSANG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CALOSANG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Don, They can all be ordered from www.lavote.net   http://www.lavote.net/Recorder/BDM_Records.cfm   They are $12 each and make sure to enclose a self-addressed stampled envelope.   Joe --- On Wed, 12/7/11, Don L Fox <foxeydl@q.com> wrote: From: Don L Fox <foxeydl@q.com> Subject: Re: [CALOSANG] Cemetery lists for Los Angeles cems.? To: calosang@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, December 7, 2011, 9:47 AM I thank all of you people who replied to my question about burial info. for Los Angeles County! The people I am looking for are all Foxes. 1-Samuel A. Fox, 17 Sep. 1879-17 Oct. 1957-LA,CA 2-his wife, Margaret E. Fox, 6 Dec. 1878-22 Apr. 1986-LA, CA 3-Stanton E. Fox, 1 Aug. 1908-18 Oct. 1977-LA, CA 4-his wife, Ladye D. Fox, b. about 1908-died in 1966. 5-Their son, Charles D. Fox, 2 Feb. 1933-23 Jan. 2003.  He was buried in St. Mary's cem. in Sacramento, but I have never been able to find the info. from the cemetery. I have found social sec. death info. for some of them.  If anyone can help me with places of burial or death certificates, I would greatly appreciate it. Don L. Fox FoxeyDL@q.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Walker" <joe_walker_2000@yahoo.com> To: <calosang@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [CALOSANG] Cemetery lists for Los Angeles cems.? Don... If such a list existed, it would be awesome. But you are talking about millions of names, and no such database exists. Find A Grave only lists what people input. How many names are you researching? Joe --- On Mon, 12/5/11, Don L Fox <foxeydl@q.com> wrote: From: Don L Fox <foxeydl@q.com> Subject: [CALOSANG] Cemetery lists for Los Angeles cems.? To: CALOSANG@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, December 5, 2011, 2:36 PM Can someone tell me where I can find complete listings of burials for Los Angeles County cemeteries? I have tried Find A Grave, with no results for the names I am looking for. Don L. Fox FoxeyDL@q.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CALOSANG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CALOSANG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CALOSANG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I thank all of you people who replied to my question about burial info. for Los Angeles County! The people I am looking for are all Foxes. 1-Samuel A. Fox, 17 Sep. 1879-17 Oct. 1957-LA,CA 2-his wife, Margaret E. Fox, 6 Dec. 1878-22 Apr. 1986-LA, CA 3-Stanton E. Fox, 1 Aug. 1908-18 Oct. 1977-LA, CA 4-his wife, Ladye D. Fox, b. about 1908-died in 1966. 5-Their son, Charles D. Fox, 2 Feb. 1933-23 Jan. 2003. He was buried in St. Mary's cem. in Sacramento, but I have never been able to find the info. from the cemetery. I have found social sec. death info. for some of them. If anyone can help me with places of burial or death certificates, I would greatly appreciate it. Don L. Fox FoxeyDL@q.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Walker" <joe_walker_2000@yahoo.com> To: <calosang@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [CALOSANG] Cemetery lists for Los Angeles cems.? Don... If such a list existed, it would be awesome. But you are talking about millions of names, and no such database exists. Find A Grave only lists what people input. How many names are you researching? Joe --- On Mon, 12/5/11, Don L Fox <foxeydl@q.com> wrote: From: Don L Fox <foxeydl@q.com> Subject: [CALOSANG] Cemetery lists for Los Angeles cems.? To: CALOSANG@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, December 5, 2011, 2:36 PM Can someone tell me where I can find complete listings of burials for Los Angeles County cemeteries? I have tried Find A Grave, with no results for the names I am looking for. Don L. Fox FoxeyDL@q.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CALOSANG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CALOSANG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Aaron, All of us who are subject matter experts have said the exact same thing about how records are maintained in Los Angeles County. I order death certificates from LA County every month.  They are $12. each and take about three weeks to arrive.  Other counties in California charge the same amount, and their turnaround is much quicker.   Good luck, Joe --- On Mon, 12/5/11, Joy Fisher <jfisher@sdgenweb.com> wrote: From: Joy Fisher <jfisher@sdgenweb.com> Subject: Re: [CALOSANG] Cemetery lists for Los Angeles cems.? To: calosang@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, December 5, 2011, 7:13 PM Write to the SCGS: http://www.scgsgenealogy.com/ They sell what they have on CDs, but they will do look-ups for a fee. There is NO comprehensive list anywhere. On 12/5/2011 3:50 PM, Aaron Hill wrote: > I am confident there are lists of folks buried and where. These lists have been a staple of local genealogical societies for decades. It was one method for these groups to make a little money. These may not be centralized and not exhaustive, but they do indeed exist. > > -- Aaron > > --- On Mon, 5/12/11, Joe Walker<joe_walker_2000@yahoo.com>  wrote: > >    >> Good info...except he wants a list of everyone buried in LA >> County.  While we can wish all we want that there were >> libraries that kept that info, it is not maintained >> anywhere. >>    >> Joe >>      > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CALOSANG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >    ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CALOSANG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Fred died in Los Angeles. I am not sure where Emby and his family lived. They didn't live in CA for long. Fred moved there sometime between 1930-35 I think. They were brothers from South Dakota. --- On Tue, 6/12/11, Sue Silver <ssilver1951@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > From: Sue Silver <ssilver1951@sbcglobal.net > > Emby died in Orange County, not Los Angeles.  Did > these families reside in LA or Orange?

Sue, Please note that I referenced Joe Walker's previous message. I was responding to him. -- Aaron > From: Sue Silver <ssilver1951@sbcglobal.net> > > That's not what I said. > >   ----- Original Message ----- >   From: Aaron Hill >   To: calosang@rootsweb.com > >   Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 5:19 PM >   Subject: Re: [CALOSANG] Cemetery lists for Los > Angeles cems.? > > >   So what you are stipulating is that no one, at no > time, has ever compiled and published a list of names and > dates for ANY cemeteries in Los Angeles? Seems a bit > presumptuous to me. > >   -- Aaron > >   > From: Joe Walker <joe_walker_2000@yahoo.com> >   > >   > Aaron, >   > I have been doing family research for 30 plus > years in Los >   > Angeles County, and I am just as sure that the > info is not >   > there. . . . >   > >   > Joe

Here's what WorldCat, a catalog of libraries worldwide, has listed for "Los Angeles cemetery" and I also did a search on Google. Clearly there are resources out there. http://www.worldcat.org/search?q=los+angeles+cemetery&qt=results_page Online Los Angeles, California Death Records & Indexes http://www.deathindexes.com/california/los-angeles.html Resources for Los Angeles Co. CA http://resources.rootsweb.ancestry.com/usa/CA/LosAngeles/ Los Angeles County Cemetery Records http://www.interment.net/us/ca/los_angeles.htm Los Angeles National Cemetery http://www.interment.net/data/us/ca/losangeles/lanat/index.htm Historic Cemeteries of Los Angeles http://www.usc.edu/libraries/archives/la/cemeteries/ California Cemeteries http://freepages.military.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~xander/california.htm Burial Site Locator for Glendale, Hollywood Hills, Cypress, Covina Hills, Cathedral City http://www.forestlawn.com/Visitors-Guide/Interment-Locator.asp

I am looking for the graves of two men who died in the 1950s. Emby P. GEORGE, died in 1952, husband of Lydia Fred (Jacob Frederich) GEORGE, died in 1954 http://aaronjhill.wordpress.com/2011/12/02/fred-george-another-great-grand-uncle/ -- Aaron --- On Tue, 6/12/11, Sue Silver <ssilver1951@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > From: Sue Silver <ssilver1951@sbcglobal.net> > > As I don't know how old the burial might be or where, I'm > afraid I have no specific advice for you as to internet > sites that might be of help.

So what you are stipulating is that no one, at no time, has ever compiled and published a list of names and dates for ANY cemeteries in Los Angeles? Seems a bit presumptuous to me. -- Aaron > From: Joe Walker <joe_walker_2000@yahoo.com> > > Aaron, > I have been doing family research for 30 plus years in Los > Angeles County, and I am just as sure that the info is not > there.  I asked the original requestor how many names he > was looking for. The only sure way to get the info is to get > copies of the death certificates from our local registrar > recorders.  >   > Joe

I am confident there are lists of folks buried and where. These lists have been a staple of local genealogical societies for decades. It was one method for these groups to make a little money. These may not be centralized and not exhaustive, but they do indeed exist. -- Aaron --- On Mon, 5/12/11, Joe Walker <joe_walker_2000@yahoo.com> wrote: > Good info...except he wants a list of everyone buried in LA > County.  While we can wish all we want that there were > libraries that kept that info, it is not maintained > anywhere. >   > Joe

Surely there must be some books with cemetery lists at some libraries. What are some good resources that people know about? Or where's a good place to start? What's the best library in the Los Angeles area for genealogy? -- Aaron > From: Joe Walker <joe_walker_2000@yahoo.com> > > If such a list existed, it would be awesome.  But you are > talking about millions of names, and no such database > exists.  Find A Grave only lists what people input. > > From: Don L Fox <foxeydl@q.com> > > Can someone tell me where I can find complete listings of > burials for Los Angeles County cemeteries?

(Sorry if this is redundant but I just picked up this thread and wanted to throw some light on the subject.) The LA Public Library has copies of the DAR transcriptions from the 1930's for a variety of cemeteries. As was stated earlier, the transcriptions are not complete. They do not include sections of some cemeteries (as in Evergreen, for example, that were not predominantly "white") and they are tombstone transcriptions so unmarked graves are not included. The Southern California Genealogical Society has published several directories, including: Mountain View Cemetery 1880-1933 in Altadena / Pasadena Home of Peace Jewish Cemetery (including cemetery records, not just headstone transcription) Savannah Pioneer Cemetery in Rosemead (the list is online at www.scgsgenealogy.com) Evergreen Cemetery in Lompoc (not Los Angeles County) Rosedale Cemetery Pierce Brothers Westwood Village Cemetery (includes cemetery records, not just headstone transcriptions) Cemetery Records of Inyo County, California At SCGS, you can also find Los Angeles Burial Permits 1879-1892 Los Angeles City Death Records 1877-1899 Online Los Angeles Times Obituary Index (free index, copies available at a nominal fee) Outside of SCGS, you'll find many resources as well. Jim Seidelman has done an outstanding job of documenting burials at Hollywood Forever Cemetery and he has posted those on Find-A-Grave. The California GenWeb site LA County Cemetery listings can be found at http://theusgenweb.org/ca/losangeles/langecem.htm I agree that the key to any death information in LA is to track down the death certificate. Good luck on your search!

Write to the SCGS: http://www.scgsgenealogy.com/ They sell what they have on CDs, but they will do look-ups for a fee. There is NO comprehensive list anywhere. On 12/5/2011 3:50 PM, Aaron Hill wrote: > I am confident there are lists of folks buried and where. These lists have been a staple of local genealogical societies for decades. It was one method for these groups to make a little money. These may not be centralized and not exhaustive, but they do indeed exist. > > -- Aaron > > --- On Mon, 5/12/11, Joe Walker<joe_walker_2000@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >> Good info...except he wants a list of everyone buried in LA >> County. While we can wish all we want that there were >> libraries that kept that info, it is not maintained >> anywhere. >> >> Joe >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CALOSANG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Did you order the Death Certificate? That should have given the place of disposition in that time period. The cemetery name or just "cremation" or the name of a crematory may have been noted. Cremations are tough to track. Emby died in Orange County, not Los Angeles. Did these families reside in LA or Orange? ----- Original Message ----- From: Aaron Hill To: calosang@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [CALOSANG] Cemetery lists for Los Angeles cems.? I am looking for the graves of two men who died in the 1950s. Emby P. GEORGE, died in 1952, husband of Lydia Fred (Jacob Frederich) GEORGE, died in 1954 http://aaronjhill.wordpress.com/2011/12/02/fred-george-another-great-grand-uncle/ -- Aaron --- On Tue, 6/12/11, Sue Silver <ssilver1951@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > From: Sue Silver <ssilver1951@sbcglobal.net> > > As I don't know how old the burial might be or where, I'm > afraid I have no specific advice for you as to internet > sites that might be of help. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CALOSANG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That's not what I said. In addition to Find A Grave, there are other sources, such as: http://www.usgwtombstones.org/california/californ.html http://www.scgsgenealogy.com/LA-Co-Burial.htm http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cabf1905/ There are also newspapers online, some free and some by subscription. By locating an obituary, you would be able to locate the name of the cemetery. There's no one place to find information such as this. The DAR did listings in the 1930s and 1950s but these were only transcribed tombstones that were extant at the time and not of all the potential cemeteries in any given area. It was a volunteer effort. Most of these, I believe are available at the California State Library in Sacramento. You can also find licensed, regulated cemeteries at: http://www.cfb.ca.gov/consumer/lookup.shtml and you could call all the cemeteries in Los Angeles and see if they have your person. ----- Original Message ----- From: Aaron Hill To: calosang@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 5:19 PM Subject: Re: [CALOSANG] Cemetery lists for Los Angeles cems.? So what you are stipulating is that no one, at no time, has ever compiled and published a list of names and dates for ANY cemeteries in Los Angeles? Seems a bit presumptuous to me. -- Aaron > From: Joe Walker <joe_walker_2000@yahoo.com> > > Aaron, > I have been doing family research for 30 plus years in Los > Angeles County, and I am just as sure that the info is not > there. I asked the original requestor how many names he > was looking for. The only sure way to get the info is to get > copies of the death certificates from our local registrar > recorders. > > Joe ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CALOSANG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Aaron, if you know anything about California, you must know that it is not like the Eastern or Mid-western states. While people have transcribed tons of cemeteries in those states, the states in the West are not well studied. It wasn't until the internet that many of these lists began to be fully complied. And these, of course, are only the names of those whose graves have tombstones. Occasionally, some cemetery records have been made available to transcribers, but this is rare at best. It is a shame that it is so difficult to track down burials in California, but that is the way it is. Many of the western states had a very transient population and graves were never marked in the first place. As I don't know how old the burial might be or where, I'm afraid I have no specific advice for you as to internet sites that might be of help. ----- Original Message ----- From: Aaron Hill To: calosang@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [CALOSANG] Cemetery lists for Los Angeles cems.? I am confident there are lists of folks buried and where. These lists have been a staple of local genealogical societies for decades. It was one method for these groups to make a little money. These may not be centralized and not exhaustive, but they do indeed exist. -- Aaron --- On Mon, 5/12/11, Joe Walker <joe_walker_2000@yahoo.com> wrote: > Good info...except he wants a list of everyone buried in LA > County. While we can wish all we want that there were > libraries that kept that info, it is not maintained > anywhere. > > Joe ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CALOSANG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

California State funeral and cemetery law does NOT require that such lists be made public. The cemeteries must keep a plot map and list, but because so many private operators are using some of the state's oldest graveyards, they have no historical records of burials. When mortuaries go out of business, there is no requirement that they place their records with anyone or any entity. Sometimes the new operators are inclined to start their own records and have little use for the old ones of the companies they have purchased. Finally, in terms of historic-era California (statehood forward), thousands were buried in unmarked graves and no one was administering the cemeteries. No law in historic times required such records. There are literally thousands and thousands of graves in the old cemeteries that remain unmarked today and the identities of those interred in them is unknown. Finally, there is not even a full list of all the cemeteries in the State. The old State Cemetery Board surveyed the counties when it was created in 1949, but I know of cemeteries that aren't even on the old 1950's board listings. Sometimes you can only do what you can do in tracking down an ancestor. My own g-g-grandfather's grave site is unknown and he may be in one of two of the cemeteries local to his place of death. But since NO RECORDS were kept at the cemeteries, I will never know for certain. ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Walker To: calosang@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [CALOSANG] Cemetery lists for Los Angeles cems.? Aaron, I have been doing family research for 30 plus years in Los Angeles County, and I am just as sure that the info is not there. I asked the original requestor how many names he was looking for. The only sure way to get the info is to get copies of the death certificates from our local registrar recorders. Joe --- On Mon, 12/5/11, Aaron Hill <aaronjhill@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: From: Aaron Hill <aaronjhill@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: [CALOSANG] Cemetery lists for Los Angeles cems.? To: calosang@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, December 5, 2011, 3:50 PM I am confident there are lists of folks buried and where. These lists have been a staple of local genealogical societies for decades. It was one method for these groups to make a little money. These may not be centralized and not exhaustive, but they do indeed exist. -- Aaron --- On Mon, 5/12/11, Joe Walker <joe_walker_2000@yahoo.com> wrote: > Good info...except he wants a list of everyone buried in LA > County. While we can wish all we want that there were > libraries that kept that info, it is not maintained > anywhere. > > Joe ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CALOSANG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CALOSANG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Aaron, I have been doing family research for 30 plus years in Los Angeles County, and I am just as sure that the info is not there.  I asked the original requestor how many names he was looking for. The only sure way to get the info is to get copies of the death certificates from our local registrar recorders.    Joe --- On Mon, 12/5/11, Aaron Hill <aaronjhill@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: From: Aaron Hill <aaronjhill@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: [CALOSANG] Cemetery lists for Los Angeles cems.? To: calosang@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, December 5, 2011, 3:50 PM I am confident there are lists of folks buried and where. These lists have been a staple of local genealogical societies for decades. It was one method for these groups to make a little money. These may not be centralized and not exhaustive, but they do indeed exist. -- Aaron --- On Mon, 5/12/11, Joe Walker <joe_walker_2000@yahoo.com> wrote: > Good info...except he wants a list of everyone buried in LA > County.  While we can wish all we want that there were > libraries that kept that info, it is not maintained > anywhere. >   > Joe ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CALOSANG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message