Hi List! I was wondering by any chance can any body please do a marrige look up fpr me? Modesta Carrasco to Jose Romero married 5-3-1876, Los Angeles, Ca. Than you i really do appreciate the help, Ramona monabit2001@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax

Actually, I was looking again at the dates. The CADI says he was born 8/9/1926 and died 10/23/1996. The SSDI says he was born 8/9/1921 and died 12/23/1996. An Obit Lookup would be greatly appreciated. He is a block wall for me. And by the looks of the date, I obviously have not gotten very far. Also, the SSDI says his last residence was in the zip code 90013. Does anyone know what city this is? Thanks, Charlene ----- Original Message ----- From: Frank Charlene and Annette Sousa To: CALOSANG-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 7:54 AM Subject: Donald Andrew Greene Hello, I am looking for any information on Donald Andrew Greene. I believe he was b. 08/09/1926 and d. 10/23/1996 this is as per the SSDI and CADI. If anyone knows of him or his family would be interested in hearing from you. Or if someone who lives in Los Angeles County could look up an obit, would be wonderful. Also, where can I call to order the death certificate or call to ask for an obit lookup. I am new to looking things up. Thanks, Charlene Lucas.dog@verizon.net

Deborah, Thanks so much for your help in finding the LA DCT's. The one for my Samuel Johnson gave his mother's maiden name and now I have a line to follow up on for my 4th great grandmother. This was the first clue I have had in over 3 years of searching. I also wondered if you had any luck in finding DCT's for my request of Feb 21st for husband and wife: Ashba Logan (A.L.) JOHNSON, b abt. 1834 TN; died Feb. 22, 1919 in Long Beach, Ca. state file #19-9644. Sarah JOHNSON, b abt 1841 IN; died Feb 11, 1923; # 7102 The Sarah Johnson (died 11-27-1923) that you did send on March 31st was not my Sarah, but I will post it in the appropriate place per your request. Thanks for your time and help in all that you do for us. Diana

I did a check on the expanded 1989-1999 CADI and it shows a spouse initial of GL. Last_Name First_Name Middle_Name B_yr B_mo B_dy Mothers_Last_Name Fathers_Last_Name Sex Bp County_of_Death D_yr D_mo D_dy SS_Number Age RE M SP MD DR CU CG ST YC ID FS BENSON GLADYS LORENE 1921 09 28 WEBB SANMARK FEMALE SD LOS ANGELES 1996 02 11 499165672 74 10 1 EH 19 966- 85 05 53 046627 BENSON GRACE L 1922 04 04 YOUNG BENNETT FEMALE MO LOS ANGELES 1994 07 22 499147258 72 10 5 36 2028 22 05 04 140838 These two came up and the Cose 966- for cause of death indicates homicide. Both Elmer and Gladys Lorene have the same code as well as the same death date. Thought you might want to know. Deborah Story Rootsweb Los Angeles Mailing List Volunteer ----- Original Message ----- From: <R1946AT@aol.com> To: <CALOSANG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 7:55 PM Subject: [CALosAngeles] LA CO DCT Benson > Could someone please do a look up for me? The name is Benson, Elmer born 8 > July 1916, died 11 Feb 1996 in Los Angeles Co., mother maiden name Behrens. > All help appreciated. > > Bob Trapp > > >

Hello, I am looking for any information on Donald Andrew Greene. I believe he was b. 08/09/1926 and d. 10/23/1996 this is as per the SSDI and CADI. If anyone knows of him or his family would be interested in hearing from you. Or if someone who lives in Los Angeles County could look up an obit, would be wonderful. Also, where can I call to order the death certificate or call to ask for an obit lookup. I am new to looking things up. Thanks, Charlene Lucas.dog@verizon.net

Deborah, Can you please help me? I need a DCT for the following person and if the DC gives an occupation it would really help me. I think his mother would have been Nellie or Elizabeth Davis. I don't know if he was married. Bob Trapp >>Bob The following information is from the California Death Index. Surname: Barnett Given Name: Robert Middle Name: Archer Sex: Male Birth Date: October 31, 1887 Death Date: January 9, 1957 Birth Place: Kansas Death Place: Los Angeles Social Security Number: 563104129 Mother's Maiden Name: Davis Father's Surname: Barnett You might be able to find out more information from his obituary. If he truly won an oscar I would assume that his obituary would have been in the newspaper. What I would do is ask Deborah Story on the CALOSANG-L to get a Death Certificate Transcription for you. This will tell you exactly where he died and where he lived. That way you can locate the newspaper easier that his obituary would have appeared in. Good Luck, Deborah<<

Joni, I had a lucky strike with a funeral home in Fresno when I asked for the funeral records of my g-grandfather, who had died in 1933. I learned the names of the nine children and the cities where they were living. The other funeral homes have usually left the line for survivors blank. Fortunately, this home filled out the form completly. Rayene in San Diego ----- Original Message ----- From: Joni Vella <jonella59@hotmail.com> To: <CALOSANG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 5:23 PM Subject: [CALosAngeles] Funeral homes > If a funeral home is still in existence, what could a person expect to find, genealogically speaking, from their records? I am interested in Pierce Bros. 3443 W. Manchester Blvd., Inglewood--in 1945? > > The same question holds true for cemetery records---Inglewood Cemetery. > > Thanks for your help. > > Joni Vella >

In a message dated 3/31/2002 7:44:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, diluvius@yahoo.com writes: > I am looking for a source for marriages of a family that > I'm researching in Los Angeles 1830s-1900s. Most of the > marriages would have occurred in the period 1850-1900. > > Specifically, the marriages are those of the children of > Lemuel and Maria (de los Angeles Dominguez) Carpenter, who > married about 1835 in Los Angeles and owned Rancho Santa > Gertrudes at present-day Downey. > > According to the California Pioneers - CALIFORNIA PIONEER REGISTER AND INDEX 1542 - 1848 page 82 Carpenter (Benj.), 1845, Amer. immig. from Or. in the McMahon-Clyman party; prob. went back to Or. '46. iv. 572, 576. C. (Chas R.), 1847, Co. F, N.Y. Vol. (v. 499); died in Cuba '60. C. (Isaac), 1847, Co. C, Morm. Bat. (v. 469). C. (John), 1845, named as a captive exchanged for Manuel Castro. iv. 487, doubtful. C. (Lemuel or Samuel), 1832, Amer. from N. Mex. iii. 388, 408; accredited to '31 and '33 in two lists of '36; prob. came in winter of '32-3; 22 years old in '36, 28 in '40; had a soap-factory on the S. Gabriel River and a vineyard in co. with Chard; one of the vigilantes '36, and not arrested '40; served '45 against Micheltorena. iv. 495; in '48 had an orchard near S. Buen. Claimant for Sta Gertrudis '53. iii. 634; where on account of financial troubles he committed suicide in '59. C. (Roman), 1840, named on Larkin's books; perhaps the 'Roman carpenter' or 'Roman the carpenter.' C. (Wm), 1841, doubtful record at Los Ang. C. (Wm M.), 1848, physician at N. Helv., room-mate of P. H. Burnett. Carpentier, memb. of legisl. '55, accredited to '48 in the Chart. According to the LDS file - Lemuel Carpenter died 11/5/1859 - El Monte, Contra Costa, California (I've never heard of El Monte in Contra Costa - El Monte is in San Gabriel Valley -So. Calif -& Contra Costa is in Northern Cal ifornia -it's possible there's another El Monte , but I've never seen it listed) I also checked Marie Northrop's books-Spanish & Mexican Families of Early California 1769-1850 - Vol I & Vol II - for Maria De Los Angeles Dominquez - she is not listed - the Dominquez family has several listings- Lemuel/Samuel Carpenter is not listed. The Los Angeles records begin in 1871 the Carpenters I found between 1871-1900 don't appear to be related - I would suggest you look through the San Gabriel Mission Records (through the LDS films #2642, 2643,2644,2645, 2646) 4/1/1871 - Frank P Carpenter & Maria Inez Gradias 4/7/1872 - Alexnader Carpenter- Sarah Catharine Barham 8/1/1876 Thomas W. Hill 30/New Jersey - Josephine Carpenter 20/Los Angeles 12/4/1881 - Nelson Ward 25/New York- Helen M Carpenter 22/New Jersey 12/18/1881 - William H. Carpenter- 25/New York - Mary M . Malott 17/Los Angeles 3/26/1884 - William E. Garey - 28/Los Angeles- Laura E. Carpet 20/Minnesota 8/28/1884- Robert L. Carpenter 27/New York - Sarah C. Brown 16 1/2/Texas 5/18/1886- Clive Richey-22/Illinois - Dell Carpenter 17/Illinois 12/4/1888 -E. H. Carpenter 41/Connecticut - Violetk Niskern 32/Minnesota - 2/15/1889- Egar J. Carpenter 24/NY - Miss Urbanna Bratton 34/Missouri 8/19/1891- Ora G. Carpenter 25/NY - Ellen Hallstrom 25/Vermont 2/12/1893 William P. Carpenter 52/N. Carolina- Naveir (?) Smminer 52/Mississippi 3/23/1893 -William Thompson- 27/Calif - Ida Carpenter 19/?? 11/2/1893 - Hugh M. Carpenter 29/Illinois - Lizzie Hampson 26/Pennsylvania 9/22/1896 -Benjamin F. Griffin 34/Illinois - Edith Carpenters 33/Illinois 415/1897- Levi Horfeldt 25/Pennsylvania - Bessie Carpenter 21/Illinois 9/5/1897 Fred Jewell 22/Iowa - Dora V. Carpenter 22/Kansas 11/2/1897 William P. Carpenter 57/N. Carolina - Eva Stife 50/Illinois 3/31/1898 - William Carpenter 67/England - Agnes Simms 59/Ohio Good Luck Kathy

Not all newspapers are like the LA Times (which we read for many years when we lived on So CA). My Hubby subscribes to the Portland Oregonian now and they have 1 1/2 pages in today's paper of obits, funeral notices, death notices and what appears to be paid for obits as they have borders around them and some have pictures of the individual. Quoting from their obituary policy printed at the top of every obituary page (daily): News obituaries are a free service of the Oregonian. They are written by staff members of the Oregonian for residents of the Portland area. ...... there is more to the statement but you get the idea. There are 39 of these today plus 24 death notices (very small columns with about 3 lines each name) and 14 funeral notices (same size column but more info) - also 6 of the bordered obits. We live in SW Oregon and our local paper also has good obits. If they did this in the So CA area they could fill the whole paper with nothing but obits as that area is so heavily populated. That and the traffic is why we left. I am a 2nd generation native Californian. But I love the area where we live now with clean blue skies and no heavy traffic and trees and mountains and a beautiful river. It is peaceful like the private beach was that I grew up on in Malibu many moons ago. That is not the same place now either. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deborah" <ladyfelix@directvinternet.com> To: <CALOSANG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [CALosAngeles] OBIT? Death Notice? Funeral Notice? Which is which? > Very nicely put. > > Deborah > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Inglis" <inglis@pacbell.net> > To: <CALOSANG-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:51 AM > Subject: [CALosAngeles] OBIT? Death Notice? Funeral Notice? Which is which? > > > > Someone recently asked in regards to finding an obituary, " Might > > there still be a death notice (I'm not completely sure how > > that's different from an obit)?" > > > > Here's my opinion about that....... > > It all depends on the newspaper. Some call everything regarding > > a death an Obituary. > > Some call them Funeral notices (assuming a funeral is mention in > > the item). Some call then Death notices. And in some, there are > > Obituaries (usually paid by family) and Death notices - which I > > sometimes believe are paid for by mortuaries (a subtle form of > > advertising?). > > > > Some large newspapers sometimes change the headings from time to > > time - to keep us confused? Some "death notices" are just > > that... the name of the deceased person, maybe his/her age, and > > name of mortuary. I suspect this is a sneaky way for mortuaries > > to get in some advertising and keep their name out there. > > > > I like small community newspapers, especially older ones, that > > still believe a person was important, even in death, and are > > recognized - sometimes on front page - not necessily in a column > > headed "Obituaries", but as a little news item - and at no cost > > to the family. But now days, it's cost prohitive for most > > newspapers. > > > > Have you inquired as to the cost, per word, for placing an > > obituary in your town's newspaper? > > It may shock you, but will explain why it we sometimes find > > nothing about a person's death in a newspaper. > > > > > > > >

If a funeral home is still in existence, what could a person expect to find, genealogically speaking, from their records? I am interested in Pierce Bros. 3443 W. Manchester Blvd., Inglewood--in 1945? The same question holds true for cemetery records---Inglewood Cemetery. Thanks for your help. Joni Vella

She's buried in a charity grave in Resurrection Cemetery (Catholic). I'm seeing what I can discover through the church ... > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Walker [mailto:joe_walker_2000@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:11 AM > To: Chris Shearer Cooper; CALOSANG-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [CALosAngeles] Obit Possible Request? > > > Well, there MIGHT be a one line notice, but most > likely not. Even if there was a notice, it wouldn't > have any helpful info. Where is she buried? > > Joe > --- Chris Shearer Cooper <cscooper@frii.com> wrote: > > Might there still be a death notice (I'm not > > completely sure how that's > > different from an obit)? > > > > She died alone in her apartment (pneumonia and > > alcoholism) and was found > > some time later, is that enough to warrant a mention > > in the paper? (or is > > that a far-too-common way to go)? > > > > Thanks! > > Chris > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Joe Walker > > [mailto:joe_walker_2000@yahoo.com] > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:17 AM > > > To: Chris Shearer Cooper; CALOSANG-L@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [CALosAngeles] Obit Possible Request? > > > > > > > > > Chris, > > > That librarian was right. Unless someone dies a > > > violent death, or they were prominent in some way, > > > there would be no obit. > > > > > > Joe > > > --- Chris Shearer Cooper <cscooper@frii.com> > > wrote: > > > > I'm investigating Paula Lee who died Jan. 17, > > 1959 > > > > in Los Angeles. She died > > > > penniless and alone (the county had to bury > > her), > > > > and a librarian out there > > > > told me it was unlikely there would be any > > mention > > > > in the paper of her > > > > passing (let alone a full-fledged obituary). > > She > > > > had been living at 1541 W. > > > > 11th Place, I'm not sure which paper covers that > > > > address anyway .. > > > > > > > > Is it worth trying to find an obit or death > > notice > > > > for her? > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax > > > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ >

Thought I would pass this on - it was in today's Ancestry Daily News. I agree all our many wonderful volunteers deserve a great big THANK YOU! FAST FACT: APRIL IS VOLUNTEER APPRECIATION MONTH =================================================================== I want to post a message to say how excited I am to officially declare April as Volunteer Appreciation Month on RootsWeb.com. RootsWeb.com began years ago as a grassroots effort that quickly became the largest volunteer genealogy website in the world. Today it is second only to Ancestry.com in the genealogy category for the number of unique visitors it receives each month. Without the tens of thousands of volunteers who maintain and administer the message boards, mailing lists, personal Web pages and who contribute data to RootsWeb, this website would not be where it is today. In addition, other wonderful volunteer organizations have also contributed substantially to our community. I want to recognize those volunteer efforts by mentioning the USGenWeb Project, the WorldGenWeb Project, the AOL Genealogy Forum, the LDS Church and their thousands of Family History Centers, Books We Own, GENTECH, FreeBMD (England and Wales), the Immigrant Ships Transcriber Guild, the Federation of Genealogical Societies, the National Genealogical Society, Obituary Daily Times, Cemetery Photos, FreeReg (UK), Cyndi's List, and countless others. The mission of RootsWeb.com will be to continually recognize and empower volunteer organizations worldwide that disseminate genealogy knowledge and foster worldwide collaboration between family historians. Please join me in saying thank you! Express your appreciation by sending an e-mail to your message board or mailing list admin this month. (Click the "Links and Announcements" link on message boards to find your admin's e-mail address, or send a message to XXX- admin@rootsweb.com on mailing lists, where the name of the list replaces the XXX). Post a message here on this special message board. Visit your local Family History Center. You might even consider volunteering yourself as a way of giving something back to the community. Warm regards, Laryn Brown Director, RootsWeb.com

That must've been exciting, Judy! I join Joe in asking you to keep us posted on what you find :) Linda In a message dated 4/3/02 9:36:24 AM Central Standard Time, rhassall@axion.net writes: > Hi there > > I saw Douglass b. 1889 in the 10 Commandments! Thanks to all who have > helped > me in my quest. Now I thought I would give a last try to see if there are > descendants of the DUMBRILLE/LAWSON/MOBRAY marriages below. If anyone wants > information on the Lawson side that is my side, just ask. > Thanks to all > Judy in Canada > >

I'm seeking the obituaries of two brothers who died in Los Angeles, CA. I would be most grateful if someone could find them for me.. Georgeo Caliva, died 3-6-1946-mother, Principa Victor Caliva, died 3-4-1952- mother, Principe A MILLION Thanks in advance for your time & help.. Patricia Schiro Bedias,TX schiro@gte.net

Very nicely put. Deborah ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Inglis" <inglis@pacbell.net> To: <CALOSANG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:51 AM Subject: [CALosAngeles] OBIT? Death Notice? Funeral Notice? Which is which? > Someone recently asked in regards to finding an obituary, " Might > there still be a death notice (I'm not completely sure how > that's different from an obit)?" > > Here's my opinion about that....... > It all depends on the newspaper. Some call everything regarding > a death an Obituary. > Some call them Funeral notices (assuming a funeral is mention in > the item). Some call then Death notices. And in some, there are > Obituaries (usually paid by family) and Death notices - which I > sometimes believe are paid for by mortuaries (a subtle form of > advertising?). > > Some large newspapers sometimes change the headings from time to > time - to keep us confused? Some "death notices" are just > that... the name of the deceased person, maybe his/her age, and > name of mortuary. I suspect this is a sneaky way for mortuaries > to get in some advertising and keep their name out there. > > I like small community newspapers, especially older ones, that > still believe a person was important, even in death, and are > recognized - sometimes on front page - not necessily in a column > headed "Obituaries", but as a little news item - and at no cost > to the family. But now days, it's cost prohitive for most > newspapers. > > Have you inquired as to the cost, per word, for placing an > obituary in your town's newspaper? > It may shock you, but will explain why it we sometimes find > nothing about a person's death in a newspaper. > > >

Do you already have their death certificates and know for sure they died in the city of Los Angeles or just the county of Los Angeles? If you know which city they lived in as well as died in, then you might find some hope in locating an obituary/death notice. Unfortunately, very few who have died in the city of Los Angeles have obits, not to say there is not one. I started out trying to locate obits, but found the LA Times to be a bad source, unless your famous. I chose to transcribe death certificates, instead. I help more people and spend less time doing it. Deborah Story Rootsweb Los Angeles Mailing List Volunteer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Schiro" <schiro@gte.net> To: <CALOSANG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:25 AM Subject: [CALosAngeles] Los Angeles Obit Look-up /Caliva > I'm seeking the obituaries of two brothers who died in Los Angeles, CA. I would be most grateful if someone could find them for me.. > > Georgeo Caliva, died 3-6-1946-mother, Principa > > Victor Caliva, died 3-4-1952- mother, Principe > > A MILLION Thanks in advance for your time & help.. > > Patricia Schiro > Bedias,TX > schiro@gte.net > > > > >

All I did was a search on the internet to get the information. Sorry, I don't know anything more. Deborah ----- Original Message ----- From: "kathy pettit" <kpettit@nts-online.net> To: "Deborah" <ladyfelix@directvinternet.com>; <CALOSANG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [CALosAngeles] Los Angeles Indian Tribes > are these tribes connected anyway to the Chumash of Southern Calofornia? > They have a web site there. > Kathy > > >

May I suggest making a few phone calls? Here are three Dumbrille's that I found in California Dumbrille, Erwin 27009 Littlefield Dr, Valencia, CA 91354-2403 (661)296-4519 Dumbrille, Helen E Santa Rosa, CA 95404 (707)545-1842 Dumbrille, P 1184 Kirkford Way, Westlake Village, CA 91361-3716 (805)495-3066 Valencia and Westlake Village are both Los Angeles suburbs..Westlake Village is a very upscale place. Promise to keep us posted if anything develops?? Joe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/

Well, there MIGHT be a one line notice, but most likely not. Even if there was a notice, it wouldn't have any helpful info. Where is she buried? Joe --- Chris Shearer Cooper <cscooper@frii.com> wrote: > Might there still be a death notice (I'm not > completely sure how that's > different from an obit)? > > She died alone in her apartment (pneumonia and > alcoholism) and was found > some time later, is that enough to warrant a mention > in the paper? (or is > that a far-too-common way to go)? > > Thanks! > Chris > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Joe Walker > [mailto:joe_walker_2000@yahoo.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:17 AM > > To: Chris Shearer Cooper; CALOSANG-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [CALosAngeles] Obit Possible Request? > > > > > > Chris, > > That librarian was right. Unless someone dies a > > violent death, or they were prominent in some way, > > there would be no obit. > > > > Joe > > --- Chris Shearer Cooper <cscooper@frii.com> > wrote: > > > I'm investigating Paula Lee who died Jan. 17, > 1959 > > > in Los Angeles. She died > > > penniless and alone (the county had to bury > her), > > > and a librarian out there > > > told me it was unlikely there would be any > mention > > > in the paper of her > > > passing (let alone a full-fledged obituary). > She > > > had been living at 1541 W. > > > 11th Place, I'm not sure which paper covers that > > > address anyway .. > > > > > > Is it worth trying to find an obit or death > notice > > > for her? > > > > > > Thanks! > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax > > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/

Someone recently asked in regards to finding an obituary, " Might there still be a death notice (I'm not completely sure how that's different from an obit)?" Here's my opinion about that....... It all depends on the newspaper. Some call everything regarding a death an Obituary. Some call them Funeral notices (assuming a funeral is mention in the item). Some call then Death notices. And in some, there are Obituaries (usually paid by family) and Death notices - which I sometimes believe are paid for by mortuaries (a subtle form of advertising?). Some large newspapers sometimes change the headings from time to time - to keep us confused? Some "death notices" are just that... the name of the deceased person, maybe his/her age, and name of mortuary. I suspect this is a sneaky way for mortuaries to get in some advertising and keep their name out there. I like small community newspapers, especially older ones, that still believe a person was important, even in death, and are recognized - sometimes on front page - not necessily in a column headed "Obituaries", but as a little news item - and at no cost to the family. But now days, it's cost prohitive for most newspapers. Have you inquired as to the cost, per word, for placing an obituary in your town's newspaper? It may shock you, but will explain why it we sometimes find nothing about a person's death in a newspaper.