Your friendly and open attitude is so welcome. Heck, if I could, I would find those people, go knock on their door, and have them call you while I stood there! : ) So nice to have people ask for things in a nice way, in stark contrast to inquiries like this: NEED DEATH CERTIFICATE TRANSCRIPTION OF DOE, JOHN, DATE OF DEATH SOMETIME IN 20TH CENTURY. ADVISE HOW LONG I HAVE TO WAIT! NEED ASAP. JIM DOE Next day: HOW LONG DO I HAVE TO WAIT FOR MY INFO?? You get the point! Joe --- On Thu, 6/7/12, the cohens <the.cohens.in.california@gmail.com> wrote: From: the cohens <the.cohens.in.california@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [CALOSANG] Robert Edwin GHERSON, LA Telephone Directory Lookup, Please! To: calosang@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, June 7, 2012, 8:46 AM On 6/6/12, Joe Walker <joe_walker_2000@yahoo.com> wrote: > Thanks for that Mr/Mrs Cohen. When I read that inquiry, I thought to > myself...Does my Google work better than their's? : ) Folks, 99% of the > stuff you need is on line if you just look. You are right, Joe, but a lot of people do not know how to get google to give them what they are looking for. People need to be taught how by giving them the steps we use (including the URLs of the sites we used) when we answer their queries. Googling for information is a skill that needs development, and if someone has a hard time surfing pages of bad hits, then it can be overwhelming. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CALOSANG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
On 6/6/12, Joe Walker <joe_walker_2000@yahoo.com> wrote: > Thanks for that Mr/Mrs Cohen. When I read that inquiry, I thought to > myself...Does my Google work better than their's? : ) Folks, 99% of the > stuff you need is on line if you just look. You are right, Joe, but a lot of people do not know how to get google to give them what they are looking for. People need to be taught how by giving them the steps we use (including the URLs of the sites we used) when we answer their queries. Googling for information is a skill that needs development, and if someone has a hard time surfing pages of bad hits, then it can be overwhelming.
Thanks guys. Please forgive me but, I haven't done any genealogy for probably 10 years. It has really changed!! Gerry in MO
Thanks for that Mr/Mrs Cohen. When I read that inquiry, I thought to myself...Does my Google work better than their's? : ) Folks, 99% of the stuff you need is on line if you just look. Joe --- On Wed, 6/6/12, the cohens <the.cohens.in.california@gmail.com> wrote: From: the cohens <the.cohens.in.california@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [CALOSANG] Robert Edwin GHERSON, LA Telephone Directory Lookup, Please! To: calosang@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, June 6, 2012, 2:46 PM I believe it is contrary to rootsweb rules to put information about living people up on the mailing lists out of privacy concerns. But you can easily perform a free search of http://veromi.net and phone book sites such as http://411.com to find him. The phone listing for him at 411.com is not available, but if you just put Simi Valley, California as the location and the surname GHERSON, without a first name, the first hit is likely to lead you to your family. For those wanting to learn more about searching for living relatives, see the various sites and hints and tools on my finding aids page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~thecohens/findingaids.html On 6/6/12, Gerry Miller <gmiller@ktis.net> wrote: > I would like someone to please look up a phone number/address for Robert > Edwin GHERSON in Los Angeles, please. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CALOSANG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I would like someone to please look up a phone number/address for Robert Edwin GHERSON in Los Angeles, please. Thank you very much. I believe him to be a distant cousin of mine. My grandmother & his great-grandmother are sisters. ...Gerry in MO
I believe it is contrary to rootsweb rules to put information about living people up on the mailing lists out of privacy concerns. But you can easily perform a free search of http://veromi.net and phone book sites such as http://411.com to find him. The phone listing for him at 411.com is not available, but if you just put Simi Valley, California as the location and the surname GHERSON, without a first name, the first hit is likely to lead you to your family. For those wanting to learn more about searching for living relatives, see the various sites and hints and tools on my finding aids page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~thecohens/findingaids.html On 6/6/12, Gerry Miller <gmiller@ktis.net> wrote: > I would like someone to please look up a phone number/address for Robert > Edwin GHERSON in Los Angeles, please.
ZANESVILLE [OH Muskingum Co]: John Buchanan Armstrong, 87, of Primrose Retirement Community, Zanesville, and formerly of New Concord, passed away May 27, 2012, at Emeritus At North Hills, Zanesville. John was the son of the late John A. and Anna Buchanan Armstrong. Born on November 18, 1924, in Glendale, CA, he and his sister Anne were raised in Beaver, PA. He was graduated from Beaver High School, and went into the Army in 1943. He served in the European Theater, was wounded in the Battle of the Bulge, and was honorably discharged in 1946 as a Sergeant from Company L, 291st Infantry Regiment. He was a recipient of the <http://www.legacy.com/memorial-sites/purple-heart/?personid=157847154&affiliateID=2826>Purple Heart. John was graduated from the University of Pittsburgh with honor. He went on to earn an MLS from the Carnegie Institute of Technology in 1950, where he met his future wife, Roberta (Bobby) Malcolm. They married in 1951. He served as a librarian at the University of New Hampshire, <http://www.legacy.com/memorial-sites/purdue-university/?personid=157847154&affiliateID=2826>Purdue University, Akron University, and Muskingum College. John retired, happily, from Muskingum as Librarian Emeritus in 1990. John had a curious mind and many interests. Known for his life-long love of trains, at one time he worked for the P&LE, served for several years as treasurer for the model railroad club in Zanesville, and filled the house with models, books, and memorabilia. He loved music. Favorites included opera, classical, and Scottish fiddle and bagpipe music. His love of bagpipes led him to try his hand at playing- practicing while marching around and around a friend's farm field. Other joys included his five "above average" grandchildren, Scotland- his ancestral home, mechanical toys, crossword puzzles, science fiction, and dogs. Friends and family miss his keen intellect and his encyclopedic memory, and his sharp sense of humor. Many thanks to the staff at both Primrose Retirement Community and Emeritus Memory Unit for their patient and loving care. He is survived by his wife, Bobby; daughter, Amy W. Armstrong and her husband, Robert E. Cape; daughter, Carey Fraser Armstrong-Ellis, and her husband, Peter B. Ellis; grandchildren, Abigail Armstrong Cape, Julia Malcolm Cape, Charles Buchanan Cape, Erin Armstrong Ellis, and Emily Moffat Ellis; and many cousins and extended family. His sister, Anne Armstrong Sargent, is deceased. Visiting hours will be held from 2-4 PM on Saturday, June 2, at Mock-Miller Funeral Home, 63 West Main Street, New Concord. A memorial service will be held in Pennsylvania in September. In lieu of flowers, donations can be made to the U.S.O. or the National Model Railroad Association. Published in the Times Recorder on May 30, 2012
Were counting down the days to Jamboree.... but were counting down to hours before the advance registration ends. REGISTER THROUGH MIDNIGHT, MONDAY 28 Walk-in registration will be sold at the door, but youll pay $20 to $40 more. Dont wait! ONLINE REGISTRATION Current and New SCGS Members http://www.scgsgenealogy.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=60_63 SCGS - Nonmembers http://www.scgsgenealogy.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=60_64 THURSDAY Family History Writers Camp FRIDAY Free classes Friday morning Jamboree opens at 12:00 noon Hollywood GALA Red Carpet Reception SATURDAY Saturday Banquet: How Psychic Roots became an "Unsolved Mystery" with Hank Z Jones, FASG Saturday Breakfasts "Jamboree Genealogy Idol" with Geoff Rasmussen War of 1812 Breakfast - "And the Rockets' Red Glare: Online Resources for War of 1812 Research" with Curt B. Witcher, MLS, FUGA, IGSF SUNDAY Sunday Breakfasts: "The Strange and Unexpected - Dealing with Research Surprises" NEHGS Breakfast with Rhonda McClure "Cigars, Murder and Women: Reconstructing a Signature Quilt's Community" Gena Philibert-Ortega Southern California Genealogy Jamboree http://www.genealogyjamboree.com Southern California Genealogical Society 417 Irving Drive Burbank, CA 91504 phinkel@scgsgenealogy.com 818.843.7247 phone 818.688.3253 fax
Thanks Joe, What I meant by his being able to eventually find their burials is - if and when someone lists all the burials in the cemetery they are in - assuming they are in a public cemetery or cemeteries, and they may or may not be. Or, if and when the records for the mortuary that handled their final disposition get indexed or go online, that does sometimes happen. That sort of thing could eventually appear either if the LDS or a local genealogy group takes on such a project. But I would not hold my breath waiting. I do hope Don can find their grandchildren, and that their grandchildren will know. The other thing might be to contact that Church that was mentioned in the wife's obituary, if it is still around, and see if the people there have any best guesses about what the likely cemetery would be. Then Don could write or call the most likely cemeteries to see if his relatives are buried there. On 5/6/12, Joe Walker <joe_walker_2000@yahoo.com> wrote: > I have looked up many DCT's in the Registrar Recorders office in LA County > many times, and there is no way possible that the DCT's there will ever be > online. It is physically impossible. > > Great thoughts Mr. Cohen! >
I have looked up many DCT's in the Registrar Recorders office in LA County many times, and there is no way possible that the DCT's there will ever be online. It is physically impossible. Great thoughts Mr. Cohen! Joe --- On Sun, 5/6/12, the cohens <the.cohens.in.california@gmail.com> wrote: From: the cohens <the.cohens.in.california@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [CALOSANG] Looking for 2 Fox relative's burial places. To: calosang@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, May 6, 2012, 3:24 PM I agree with Joe, we all would love to get everything free online. And I can sympathize with a limited budget and not wanting to spend money on genealogy. It depends on how badly you want the information, and how long you are willing to wait to get it. Maybe their burials will be listed online at some point in the future. Their remains had to go somewhere, whether or not they were cremated. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CALOSANG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I agree with Joe, we all would love to get everything free online. And I can sympathize with a limited budget and not wanting to spend money on genealogy. It depends on how badly you want the information, and how long you are willing to wait to get it. Maybe their burials will be listed online at some point in the future. Their remains had to go somewhere, whether or not they were cremated.
Don, The desire to get everything for free online is common in geneology. But as in life, sometimes you have to pull out the checkbook! : ) Remember, no one here is trying to see you anything, but we are trying to give you good advice based on our collective experiences. Joe --- On Sun, 5/6/12, Don L Fox <foxeydl@q.com> wrote: From: Don L Fox <foxeydl@q.com> Subject: Re: [CALOSANG] Looking for 2 Fox relative's burial places. To: calosang@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, May 6, 2012, 9:44 AM I thank all of you folks that have replied to my request about my Fox relatives, I really don't want to buy a death certificate. I now believe that they were cremated, but I still don't know if the remains were buried or what. I just thought that death certificates were available online. I am still tracking down their grand children. Their children are both dead. Don L. Fox FoxeyDL@q.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "the cohens" <the.cohens.in.california@gmail.com> To: <calosang@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [CALOSANG] Looking for 2 Fox relative's burial places. > Don, > > Have you tried tracking down Stanton and Margaret's grandchildren to > see if they know? Grandchildren often do not necessarily know where > their grandparents were buried, but it might be worth a try. > > But I would guess you know the surest way to find out where someone is > buried, is to order a death certificate? It costs $14, but would save > you a lot of work. > > If you know who the grandchildren are, but have lost touch, you could > try free online people finding tools - directories and public records > - to locate them. I tried finding Lorraine and Stanton in California > for the heck of it, but not knowing when they were born or if they > are still alive, it was hard. > > Here is a link to where I have listed a bunch of different free people > finding aids and tools and sites, if that idea appeals to you. > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~thecohens/findingaids.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CALOSANG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CALOSANG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I thank all of you folks that have replied to my request about my Fox relatives, I really don't want to buy a death certificate. I now believe that they were cremated, but I still don't know if the remains were buried or what. I just thought that death certificates were available online. I am still tracking down their grand children. Their children are both dead. Don L. Fox FoxeyDL@q.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "the cohens" <the.cohens.in.california@gmail.com> To: <calosang@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [CALOSANG] Looking for 2 Fox relative's burial places. > Don, > > Have you tried tracking down Stanton and Margaret's grandchildren to > see if they know? Grandchildren often do not necessarily know where > their grandparents were buried, but it might be worth a try. > > But I would guess you know the surest way to find out where someone is > buried, is to order a death certificate? It costs $14, but would save > you a lot of work. > > If you know who the grandchildren are, but have lost touch, you could > try free online people finding tools - directories and public records > - to locate them. I tried finding Lorraine and Stanton in California > for the heck of it, but not knowing when they were born or if they > are still alive, it was hard. > > Here is a link to where I have listed a bunch of different free people > finding aids and tools and sites, if that idea appeals to you. > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~thecohens/findingaids.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CALOSANG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message
Don, Have you tried tracking down Stanton and Margaret's grandchildren to see if they know? Grandchildren often do not necessarily know where their grandparents were buried, but it might be worth a try. But I would guess you know the surest way to find out where someone is buried, is to order a death certificate? It costs $14, but would save you a lot of work. If you know who the grandchildren are, but have lost touch, you could try free online people finding tools - directories and public records - to locate them. I tried finding Lorraine and Stanton in California for the heck of it, but not knowing when they were born or if they are still alive, it was hard. Here is a link to where I have listed a bunch of different free people finding aids and tools and sites, if that idea appeals to you. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~thecohens/findingaids.html
Sorry typo, 16 girls born January 7, 1960 in San Bernadino County. http://cabi.mirrorz.com/
There were 16 girls born January 16, 1960 in San Bernadino County. California Birth index is still free courtesy of SanFranciuscoGenealogy.com at: http://cabi.mirrorz.com/ Entries all show surname and mother's maiden name. If you find her listed there under her adopted name, then the court order was implemented in the California Birth Index. But I do know that at least some entries for adopted babies remain untouched in the California Birth Index, with original names at birth left intact. I have seen some of those for adopted children in my family tree. This gives you more raw data to work with.
I will comment that if I order a certificate, I much prefer ordering fron the State rather than the county. It takes more like 6 months instead of the two weeks which the county takes, but the copies are better, at least the ones I have gotten. http://www.cdph.ca.gov/certlic/birthdeathmar/pages/certifiedcopiesofbirthdeathrecords.aspx The state sends color copies with the words "informational, not a valid document to establish identity" stamped across the document in a light red, so the writing underneath is easier to read. The copies I have gotten from Los Angeles County had those words in Black, and the writing underneath was much more difficult to decipher because of that.
Joe described the process perfectly. While some people will insist that the forms have to be notarized, signed in triplicate, personally delivered, and have a DNA sample enclosed, it really is pretty simple. Fill out the form. Write informational copy across the top. Enclose a SASE. Write a check for $14. (it went up from $12) About two weeks later, look in your mailbox. I cannot emphasize enough how much valuable info is contained on an actual hard copy DCT. Joe --- On Thu, 5/3/12, Antunez, Joseph A <joseph.antunez@csun.edu> wrote: From: Antunez, Joseph A <joseph.antunez@csun.edu> Subject: Re: [CALOSANG] Are California death certificates available online for 1957? To: "calosang@rootsweb.com" <calosang@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, May 3, 2012, 8:51 AM Don, Below is the url to order a death certificate for your uncle. Also, I saw several items of interest for Samuel Austin Fox at the Family Search web site (url below). Good luck with your genealogy research. Joseph Here is an online link to the Los Angeles County Registrar/Recorder http://www.lavote.net/RECORDER/BDM_Records.cfm There are forms for all certs with instructions to obtain one. Note that you do not have to qualify for a legal or authorized copy. An informational copy is sufficient for genealogy purposes. Cost is the same, but proof of authorization is not required. Applications to obtain a cert can be printed, filled out, and mailed. Family Search Site: https://familysearch.org/ VitalChek [order death certificates online, however, as Joe W. mentioned it costs much more]. http://www.vitalchek.com/express-death-certificates.aspx On 5/3/12 8:29 AM, "Joe Walker" <joe_walker_2000@yahoo.com> wrote: Each of California's registrar recorders makes death certificates available via mail for only $14. It is cheap and quick. Other coomercial websites will charge you $25 or more, but all they are doing is ordering it themself and then mailing it to you. Joe --- On Thu, 5/3/12, the cohens <the.cohens.in.california@gmail.com> wrote: From: the cohens <the.cohens.in.california@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [CALOSANG] Are California death certificates available online for 1957? To: calosang@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, May 3, 2012, 8:20 AM The best you can do to find online information about where someone who died in California was buried, is to find him or her at a site that catalogues burials, unless you can find him or her in a family tree, find an obituary, or locate a relative who knows. The site I use the most to look for California burials is the following, but I do not see him there: http://findagrave.com You can also try: http://www.interment.net/us/ca/ If he was Jewish, you could also check http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/cemetery (requires free registration) On 4/30/12, Don L Fox <foxeydl@q.com> wrote: > I am looking for a place of burial or death certificate for my uncle, Samuel > > Austin Fox. > He died in 1957 in the Los Angeles area. > > A death certificate would tell where he was buried. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CALOSANG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CALOSANG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CALOSANG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Don, Below is the url to order a death certificate for your uncle. Also, I saw several items of interest for Samuel Austin Fox at the Family Search web site (url below). Good luck with your genealogy research. Joseph Here is an online link to the Los Angeles County Registrar/Recorder http://www.lavote.net/RECORDER/BDM_Records.cfm There are forms for all certs with instructions to obtain one. Note that you do not have to qualify for a legal or authorized copy. An informational copy is sufficient for genealogy purposes. Cost is the same, but proof of authorization is not required. Applications to obtain a cert can be printed, filled out, and mailed. Family Search Site: https://familysearch.org/ VitalChek [order death certificates online, however, as Joe W. mentioned it costs much more]. http://www.vitalchek.com/express-death-certificates.aspx On 5/3/12 8:29 AM, "Joe Walker" <joe_walker_2000@yahoo.com> wrote: Each of California's registrar recorders makes death certificates available via mail for only $14. It is cheap and quick. Other coomercial websites will charge you $25 or more, but all they are doing is ordering it themself and then mailing it to you. Joe --- On Thu, 5/3/12, the cohens <the.cohens.in.california@gmail.com> wrote: From: the cohens <the.cohens.in.california@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [CALOSANG] Are California death certificates available online for 1957? To: calosang@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, May 3, 2012, 8:20 AM The best you can do to find online information about where someone who died in California was buried, is to find him or her at a site that catalogues burials, unless you can find him or her in a family tree, find an obituary, or locate a relative who knows. The site I use the most to look for California burials is the following, but I do not see him there: http://findagrave.com You can also try: http://www.interment.net/us/ca/ If he was Jewish, you could also check http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/cemetery (requires free registration) On 4/30/12, Don L Fox <foxeydl@q.com> wrote: > I am looking for a place of burial or death certificate for my uncle, Samuel > > Austin Fox. > He died in 1957 in the Los Angeles area. > > A death certificate would tell where he was buried. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CALOSANG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CALOSANG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Each of California's registrar recorders makes death certificates available via mail for only $14. It is cheap and quick. Other coomercial websites will charge you $25 or more, but all they are doing is ordering it themself and then mailing it to you. Joe --- On Thu, 5/3/12, the cohens <the.cohens.in.california@gmail.com> wrote: From: the cohens <the.cohens.in.california@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [CALOSANG] Are California death certificates available online for 1957? To: calosang@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, May 3, 2012, 8:20 AM The best you can do to find online information about where someone who died in California was buried, is to find him or her at a site that catalogues burials, unless you can find him or her in a family tree, find an obituary, or locate a relative who knows. The site I use the most to look for California burials is the following, but I do not see him there: http://findagrave.com You can also try: http://www.interment.net/us/ca/ If he was Jewish, you could also check http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/cemetery (requires free registration) On 4/30/12, Don L Fox <foxeydl@q.com> wrote: > I am looking for a place of burial or death certificate for my uncle, Samuel > > Austin Fox. > He died in 1957 in the Los Angeles area. > > A death certificate would tell where he was buried. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CALOSANG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message