Thanks Members, I did get my answer from Leslie. The incident with the pilot not scattering the ashes was in San Francisco in 1997. Regards, Deborah

Looking for family who emigrated to Santa Monica in the 1950s or 1960's. They were Alfred Baldwin, with wife Carrie ( maiden name Lomax) and daughter Betty. Val Lomax E-Mail: <mailto:Vlomax@plymco.co.uk> Vlomax@plymco.co.uk IMPORTANT The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. Only the intended recipient is authorised to access it. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender straight away and delete any copies. Unauthorised use dissemination, distribution, publication or copy of this communication is prohibited. Check this e-mail and any attachments for viruses before opening.

Hello LA Members, I need your help. I remember a LONG time ago reading about a pilot in LA who had NOT been scattering cremains in the Ocean, as he was hired to do. But rather they found 100's of boxes of cremains in his garage. Question: Is there a LIST of NAMES of those cremains found? Question: Can you direct me in a direction to find out more. Thank You, Deborah in GA

On Tue, 21 May 2002 SRedden500@aol.com wrote: > I need your help. I remember > a LONG time ago reading about > a pilot in LA who had NOT been > scattering cremains in the Ocean, > as he was hired to do. > But rather they found 100's of boxes > of cremains in his garage. > Question: Is there a LIST of NAMES of > those cremains found? > Question: Can you direct me in a > direction to find out more. Something like this happened in *Northern* California in 1997; if something similar happened in SoCal I didn't hear about it, but I was living out of state at the time and mostly heard about it because my family was concerned my grandfather was among those who didn't get scattered. In the Northern California case, the families were supposed to have been contacted by mail, but I don't know if there's a list that's publicly available. Here's a news story about it: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/1997/09/06/MN40781.DTL Leslie Devlin * Putting the "there" in Oakland since 1999 * mizd@rawbw.com "[The A's] are like Menudo -- if you reach a certain age, you can't play here any more." -- Billy Beane

Hello everyone, Here is the shortcut to the Senate Bill 1614. http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_1614&sess=CUR&house > =B&site=sen I have briefly reviewed the bill, as amended, and the analyses, and I believe that it is important to raise your object to your state representatives in the Senate and the Assembly NOW. If you don't know who they are, for the Assembly go to http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/acsframeset9text.htm and look it up. The full Assembly member directory is at http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/acsframeset7text.htm. The Senate directory is at http://www.sen.ca.gov/~newsen/senators/senators.htp. The committee that will hear this on May 23, is comprised of the following: Senate Appropriations Committee meets every Monday at 9:30 am in Room 4203. JURISDICTION: Bills that are subject to Joint Rule 10.5 and are not referred to the Budget and Fiscal Review Committee. Bills that constitute a state-mandated local program. Members: Senator Dede Alpert (Chair) Senator Jim Battin (Vice Chair) Senator Debra Bowen Senator John Burton Senator Martha Escutia Senator Maurice Johannessen Senator Ross Johnson Senator Betty Karnette Senator Bruce McPherson Senator Kevin Murray Senator Don Perata Senator Charles Poochigian Senator Jackie Speier Addresses & Staff: Staff Director: Karen French Deputy Director: Anne Maitland Consultants: Maureen Brooks, George Cate, Bob Franzoia, Miriam Barcellona Ingeni to, Nora Lynn, and Lisa Matocq Assistant: Sally Ann Romo Phone: (916) 445-3284, Room 2206 This Bill must be STOPPED. While I understand the concern about stolen identities, the loss of information will devastate the genealogical momemtum that has been generated since the Internet became such a valuable tool. In my work, it will prevent us from tracking family members that may be buried in unmarked graves in our historic cemeteries that are still being used without maps or records, placing those graves at risk of obliteration. Send an Email to the Chair of this committee at senator.alpert@sen.ca.gov, under Subject: SB 1614 OPPOSE, addressed as: Honorable Dede Alpert, Chair Senate Appropriations Committee Tell the chair that you oppose SB 1614 because it hurts the majority of the people because of the actions of a few criminals. Explain the value of this information to the millions of genealogists worldwide who are attempting to reconnect with their ancestors of the past. Word your opposition firmly, but politely. Copy of your email to Senator Jackie Speier at senator.speier@sen.ca.gov, and copy both your state senator and assemblyman. If you value the access you've had to birth and death records in California (despite the delays you might have experienced), picture your life knowing you will have to physically go to Sacramento or the recorders office of the county where the record is on file. Senator Speier's bill is a knee jerk reaction to Sept. 11th and allows the actions of a few criminals to take away our freedom to access this information. Sue Silver, President El Dorado County Pioneer Cemeteries Commission a California 501(3)(c) Non-Profit Public Benefit Corporation ssilver1951@jps.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margie Campbell" <margecam@pacbell.net> To: <CASACRAM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 1:59 AM Subject: [CASacramento] RE: SB1614- Restricton of vital records in CA-corrected link > http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_1614&sess=CUR&house > =B&site=sen > > - > link to the bill site. > http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/bill/sen/sb_1601-1650/sb_1614_cfa_20020508_12073 > 3_sen_comm.html >

First let me apologize for the long first post. I am searching for Jane and Patrick McCabe. Jane's maiden name was McGinty and she was born in 1847 in Dubuque County, Whitewater Twp., Iowa to John and Sarah McGinty. Patrick was born in Ireland in 1846 to Patrick and Catherine Fitzpatrick McCabe. The McCabe family immigrated in 1848 from Cavan, IRE. A three generation descendancy chart is listed below. I have traced Jane and Patrick to Jefferson County, Vasquez Precinct, Colorado in 1880. A descendant of Bernard McCabe has his family bible that Jane McCabe died 14 Mar 1919 in San Diego. Jane and Patrick had two children in the 1880 Census, Sarah b. c. 1872 and Kate b. c. 1878. The California Death index also shows a Margaret McCabe, mother maiden name McGinty, father McCabe, b. 20 Feb 1886 in Colorado, died 27 Oct 1950 in San Francisco. I also located Margaret McCabe on the index for the Golden Gate National Cemetery with a date of birth of 20 Feb 1888, death 27 Oct 1950, Nurse Army Nurse Corps, Plot N150, burial 31 Oct 1950). Descendancy Chart of Patrick McCabe Patrick1 MCCABE, , b. 1810 Cavan, IRE, , d. before 1870 Jackson, IA, US , +Catherine1 FITZPATRICK, , b. 1820 probably Cavan, IRE, , m. circa 1839 (Son Bernard born in 1840 in IRE per 1850 Federal Census, IA, Jackson County, Otter Creek Twp) , +-- Bernard2 MCCABE, b. 1839 Cavan, IRE, d. 26 April 1921 Inglewood, Los Angeles, CA, US ¦ +Minna Marie2 JACOBSON, , b. 13 April 1843 Holstein, Altona, GER, , m. 1869 Jones, IA, US, , d. 21 October 1896 Lakewood, CA, US (Cause of death, typhoid), bur. after 21 October 1896 Golden, CO, US ¦ +-- Horace B.3 MCCABE, b. May 1872 IA, US ¦ ¦ +Eva3 UNKNOWN, b. July 1873 KY, US, , m. before 1893 IA ¦ ¦ +-- Eugene H.4 MCCABE, , , b. 14 ___ 1899 OH, US , ¦ ¦ +-- Walter4 MCCABE, , , b. May 1893 IA, US ¦ ¦ +-- Florence E.4 MCCABE, , , b. 1904 WI, US ¦ +-- Frank E.3 MCCABE, , , b. 1876 CA, US (1880 Census distinctly shows Frank as being born in California (spelled out)) ¦ +-- Theodore H.3 MCCABE, , , b. 1878 IA, US ¦ +-- Clara A.3 MCCABE, , , b. 1880 IA, US ¦ +-- Ethel Jane3 MCCABE is still living ¦ +Llewellyn David3 JONES is still living ¦ +Georgia2 UNKNOWN, b. 1844 NY, US, m. 1898 ¦ +Catherine2 UNKNOWN, b. 1857 PA, m. after 1900 +-- Luke2 MCCABE, , , b. 1841 Cavan, IRE ¦ +Anny2 UNKNOWN, b. 1858 IA, m. circa 1878 ¦ +-- Edward L3 MCCABE, , , b. 1878 Probably Ida, IA, US +-- Margaret2 MCCABE, , , b. 1843 Cavan, IRE ¦ +J. D.2 HARRINGTON, b. 07 February 1839 ¦ +-- Daniel3 HARRINGTON, b. 1867 IA, US ¦ +-- Charles3 HARRINGTON, b. 1869 IA, US ¦ +-- James3 HARRINGTON, b. 1871 IA, US ¦ +-- Andrew3 HARRINGTON, b. 1872 IA, US ¦ +-- Arthur3 HARRINGTON, b. after 1880 Ida, IA, US (Not listed in the 1880 census, per the history record for his father he was living at home during the history) ¦ +-- Frank3 HARRINGTON, b. after 1880 Ida, IA, US (Not listed in the 1880 Census and was living at home per the biographical history of his father) +-- Patrick2 MCCABE, , , , b. 1846 Cavan, Ireland (1880 Federal Census Colorado, Arapahoe County shows him as being born in 1846, 1870 census for Washington Township, Jackson County, IA, page 179, Ancestry image 590 of 595 shows him with his mother (remarried) Catherine Ewers and step father William Ewers and being born in 1849. His mother is recorded as 40 and his step father is recorded as 33) ¦ +Jane2 MCGINTY, b. 1847 IA, US (Census for 1850 refers to a 2 year old daughter, no name listed. Name obtained from Baptismal records. Name however appears in the 1850 US Census for Iowa), m. 03 August 1870 Jackson, IA, US (Per 1880 US Census Colorado Jefferson County Vasquez Precinct. Per History of Jackson County, Patrick McCabe to Jane McGInty, August 3, 1870, by M. T. Schiffmacher, Catholic priest), d. 14 March 1919 San Diego, CA, US at the home of her daughter Katie (Per information provided by Leslie, McCabe descendant) ¦ +-- Sarah3 MCCABE, b. 1872 US (1880 US Census Colorado, Jefferson CO Vasquez Precinct records place of birth as IA, however it also records parents place of birth both as Ireland while mother was born in IA. It appears that the enumurator copied the birth places of the mother) ¦ +-- Kate3 MCCABE, b. 1875 US (1880 US Federal Census Colorado, Jefferson County, Vasquez Precinct listed as born in IA, parents in Ireland, enumerator appears to have copied the mothers information down to the children) ¦ +-- Margaret3 MCCABE, , , b. 20 February 1886 CO, US, d. 27 October 1950 San Francisco, CA, US (buried at Golden Gate National Cemetery plot N150, date of birth recorded as 20 Feb 1888, death 27 October 1950, burial 31 Oct 1950) +-- John James2 MCCABE, , , , , , b. 1849 Otter Creek/Washington Twp, Jackson, IA, us , ¦ +Catherine B.2 UNKNOWN, b. 1850 IA, US, m. before 1871 ¦ +-- Mary E.3 MCCABE, , , b. 1871 prob. Ida, IA, US ¦ +-- William H.3 MCCABE, , , b. 1873 prob. Ida, IA, US ¦ +-- Anna3 MCCABE, b. 1876 probably Ida, IA, US ¦ +-- Lillian3 MCCABE, , , b. 1878 Probably Ida, IA, US ¦ +-- Sarah3 MCCABE, , , b. 1879 Probably Ida, IA, US +-- Andrew2 MCCABE, , , b. 1856 Otter Creek/Washington Twp, Jackson, IA, US +-- William2 MCCABE, , , b. 1857 Otter Creek/Washington Twp, Jackson, IA, US +unknown spouse +-- Maggie3 MCCABE, , b. 1874 probably Ida, IA, US (6 year old granddaughter living with grandmother in 1880 census. William presumed to be father as he was not located in the census) Please look at our web page and see if you might have a connection or any helpful information. Kathy Stoneberg http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kstoneberg/ourfamily.htm

Hello fellow researchers; I sent copies of birth, marriage, and death records to the Los Angeles Superior Court Hall of Records on 1-May-2002 along with a check for $35 to cover postage and copies requesting information concerning my Grandfather. I have the court order date and number and the name of the judge; however, my request was returned as I don't have a Case number. I was given a phone number to call and have tried 3 times since Friday to get the case number. I've talked to 3 different people from archives and they've asked the date which I've given-1957- and I've been asked to hold. This is without my grandfathers name of any other information. I've been put on hold for over 15 minutes all 3 times I've called and I live out of state! I wonder if anyone living near enough to the area code 213 would consider making this call for me I will provide the information if you'll contact me privately. Thank you very much for your time, Marie Cook

In a message dated 5/19/2002 8:22:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time, WFEAS@aol.com writes: > > Hi, I am new to the list and I would like to know what district Malibu is > in > on the 1930 census. My ancestor was there on the 1920 census. Hi List, Will SKS please help WILMA? She Emd me & I could only tell her Malibau was in L.A. Co. I only am familiar with Orange. Thanks, Rita AVILA - OLD SPANISH CA FAMILY

Try this site and it will help you to find your district....be patient, it takes awhile <A HREF="http://home.pacbell.net/spmorse/ellis/ellis.html">Ellis Island/1930 Census</A> Kathy

Hi, I am new to the list and I would like to know what district Malibu is in on the 1930 census. My ancestor was there on the 1920 census. Thanks Wilma Researching the Hague Family from Norway to Wisconsin to Los Angeles.

Howdy All, I found this obit in a box and thought it might help someone. It was from Bridgeport, Michigan (maybe Saginaw or the St. Joe area too) and was something my grandpa collected when our SHANNON, LOWE, WALLACE, SUGARS, and a few others were being researched. I guess he was a 3rd cousin to grandpa. It is all I have for right now, but if any of this man's relatives contact me I'll see whatever else I can find: BELT, JOHN W. 3864 SOUTH AIRPORT ROAD BRIDGEPORT, MICHIGAN passed away Sunday afternoon at St. Mary's Hospital as a result of injures sustained in an accident at his home. Age 37 years, He was born May 17, 1924, in Saginaw and graduated from St. Mary's High School and then attended General Motors Institute in Flint and graduated 1964. He had been employed by the Saginaw Chevrolet Transmission Plant. He married Miss Joan Polzin, August 23, 1947. She survives him. He was a member of St. Christopher's Church, Bridgeport, it's Holy Name Society, the Men's Club and the Saginaw Industrial Executives Club. Surviving besides his wife are four daughters: Ellen Marie, Elizabeth Leanne, and Claire; and two sons James and William, all at home. Also surviving him are two sisters Mrs. Robert (Maxine) Krieger, Portland, Oregon; Mrs. Ralph (Margaret) Andrews, Canoga Park, California; his stepmother Mrs. William Belt, Saginaw. His father William J. Belt passed away in November 1961. Funeral Service will take place at 8:45 a.m., Wednesday, at the Case Chapel and then at 9:30 a.m. at St. Christopher's Church. Reverend Father Fredrick Maynard will officiate with burial at Mt. Olivet Cemetery. Friends may call at the chapel after 6 p.m. Monday where they will meet with relatives at 8 p.m. to say the Rosary. Sincerely, Kevin O'Brien Laguna Hills, CA Researching: Perkins, Warner                    Shannon, Lowe                    Gillie, des Riviere,                    Sundell, Dorchester                    Adams, Pinkerton                    Van Schaick                   [Chancy Smith & Fam.                   Jefferson County, NY]                   Saginaw County, MI                   Genesee County, MI                   Gratiot County, MI                   Midland County, MI                  Ottawa, Canada                  Grenville, Quebec CN

Can someone do a DCT for: Jean Charles Bosquet Died May 2, 1965 (last residence Glendale, ZIP 91208) Born Dec. 21, 1897 Father's name was Louis Brunner Bosquet Also need a DCT for Jean's mother: Genevieve Mathilda Bosquet (nee Rabshaw - French spelling Robichaud) Died Aug. 19, 1952 in Los Angeles County Born in Canada in the 1800's to Gideon Rabshaw (Robichaud) and Catherine Cameron Many thanks in advance, Rita Lavorgna Fort Myers, FL ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

I am fowarding this, which originates from Ancestry.com and I found right now on my Oregon list. It is scary!! Lillian Kathleen Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "W. David Samuelsen" <dsam@sampubco.com> To: <OREGON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 6:56 AM Subject: [OREGON] Attention: California subscribers!! > per her request. Very urgent. - David > > From: "Juliana Smith" > Date: 18 May 2002 10:10:26 -0600 > > I am currently attending the NGS Conference in Milwaukee and we > have received word that California is moving forward quickly in > its move to close access to the index of birth and death records > and will be meeting Monday morning at 9:30 am for a hearing on the > bill. I am copying a message below with details of the > legislation and contact information for California legislators > form the Appropriation Committee. > > Please let our voices be heard on this issue. If closed, it will > set a precedent and it is likely that other states will follow > suit. It is particularly important that California voters voice > their opinions. > > Please pass this important message on to other lists as well. > > With best wishes, > Juliana Smith > Editor, Ancestry Daily News > editor@ancestry-inc.com > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: LEG MAY 17, 2002 REPORT > Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 14:13:55 -0700 > From: Iris Jones <ijones@accessbee.com> > > MAY 17, 2002 - SENATE BILL 1614 UPDATE > > While I subscribe the SB1614, since my last report on May 15, > 2002, I have checked the activity daily. As of late last night there > was no change. This morning I find that the bill has been scheduled > to be heard before the Appropriations Committee at 9:30 a.m. on > Monday, May 20, 2002. > > There are also new amendments. The bill requires the comprehensive > index of birth and death record indexes be kept confidential. It > will be available to some government agencies, but the information > is require to maintain confidentiality. The copies of Indexes sold > prior to 31 December to 3rd parties will require that the > information remain confidential under penalty of law. It requires > the State Registrar to establish a separate noncomprehensive > electronic indices which will be electronically available to county > recorders. But the public may only view these noncomprehensive > indexes at the State or county on computer terminals designated > for this purpose. > > Obviously, between now and 9:30 a.m. on Monday morning leaves > little time for action. I am going to send my letter of objections > to the author, the Governor and members of the Appropriation > Committee who have fax Email numbers available. > > The Committee: State Capital Bldg., Sacramento, CA 95814 > > Senator Dede Alpert (Chair), Room 5050; Fax 916-327-2188; Email > <senator.alpert@sen.ca.gov> > Senator Jim Battin (Vice Chair), Room 3024; Email > <jim.Battin@sen.ca.gov> > Senator Debora Bowen Room 4040; Email <senator.bowen@sen.ca.gov> > Senator John Burton, Room 205; no fax; no Email > Senator Martha Escuta, Room 5080; Fax 916-327-8755 > Senator Maurice Johannessen, Room 5061; Fax 916-445-7750 > Senator Ross Johnson, Room 3063, only in Irvine Office > Senator Betty Karnette, Room 5066; Fax 916-641-4395 > Senator Bruce McPherson, Room 2054; Email > <senator.mcpherson@sen.ca.gov> > Senator Kevin Murray, Room 4038; Fax 915-641-4395 > Senator Don Perata, Room 4061; Fax 916-286-3885 > Senator Charles Poochigian, Room 5087 > Senator Jackie Speier, Room 2032; Fax 916-327-2186; > <senator.speier@sen.ca.gov> > > Governor Gray Davis, Fax 916-445-4633; <governor@governor.ca.gov> > -- > Iris Carter Jones > CSGA Legislative Coordinator > > > ==== OREGON Mailing List ==== > Welcome to the OREGON LIST > To Search the OREGON-L or leave the lists use this link to the Oregon-L > web site http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OR/misc.html > Oregon Archives http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Here is the site to the <A HREF="http://www.la-archdiocese.org/schools/">Los Angeles Archdiocese</A> if it's not listed perhaps you could write to them with your question. Good Luck Kathy

Shelly, I have information from San Francisco that may help you with your search. I was sent information from an old file of my grandfather and his brother that had been enrolled in a Catholic Orphanage in Watsonville for a brief time in the early 1890's. When I called, I was told to send a written request. My reply came back in about three weeks. This was in Dec 2001. I would think they can direct you to the appropriate contact if your information is kept in a different location. Salesian Headquarters Community 1100 Franklin Street PO Box 640009 San Francisco, CA 94164-0009 Phone: 414-441-7144 Attn: Father Thomas Prendiville Phil Long AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: <Cltiv8tr@aol.com> To: <CALOSANG-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 2:57 PM Subject: [CALosAngeles] St. John's Military Academy > I have an uncle that is said to have attended St. John's Military Academy and > am hoping that someone might be able to point me to where it might have been > located. A search of the Internet and the archives of this list has come up > empty. > > St. John's Military Academy was a Catholic primary school. I believe that my > uncle was likely there at the time of the 1920 census as his mother is > transferring him from that school to another boarding school just one month > later. He is not in the Soundex for California and I'd like to search the > census pages directly if I can narrow it to the correct enumeration district. > > Thank you for any help. > > Shelly > >

I have an uncle that is said to have attended St. John's Military Academy and am hoping that someone might be able to point me to where it might have been located. A search of the Internet and the archives of this list has come up empty. St. John's Military Academy was a Catholic primary school. I believe that my uncle was likely there at the time of the 1920 census as his mother is transferring him from that school to another boarding school just one month later. He is not in the Soundex for California and I'd like to search the census pages directly if I can narrow it to the correct enumeration district. Thank you for any help. Shelly

I would like to thank Deborah for her wonderful obit assistance ( I never would have known where in the LA area this person died without the obit) and she as well as other listmembers for their advice in obtaining a death record from the Long Beach area. I wrote to the Long Beach Library and sent along a donation and today I received both obituaries I was looking for. Great, courteous service from the Library. Teamwork----isn't it super!! Deborah, hope all goes well for your these days. You are in our thoughts. Elaine/Mike

Los Angeles County Marriage Certificate Transcription: # 3747-114 Married on June 26, 1954 in Los Angeles Leon Golinsky Age = 37 bp. CT White 2nd marriage, 1st ended in divorce Residence: 1851 N Normandie Ave., Los Angeles f. Julian Golinsky, Poland m. Antoniette Chumska, Poland Evelyn Adelman AKA Evelyn Wallace Age = 37 bp. IL 3rd marriage, last ended in divorce Residence: 2207 1/2 S Beverly Glenn Blvd., Los Angeles f. Henry Friedman, Russia m. Mollie Feldman, Russia Maiden name: Evelyn Friedman by: CE Holivan, Methodist minister, 735 S Plymouth Blvd., Los Angeles Witness: Bruno Golinsky, 1245 Mullen Ave., Los Angeles Laura J. Kandro New Jersey Researching Surnames: BOHACZ, BRATKOWSKY, CHOPSKY (CZAPSKA), DEMYEN, FEKETY, FEKETI, FEKETE, GOLINSKY (GOLINSKI), KANDRATOWICZ (KANDRO) (KONDRATOWICZ) (KONDRATOVICH), KONDRAY, KUCHINSKI, KUSDIOSKA, LISKO, MURAD, OSTROVERKY (STOVERCHY), PAWLAK, RUSIN, SMARZIK, WASIL Researching Places: Kupel, Volhynia (Wolyn) Ukraine (Poland & Russia); Gubernia Witebsk (now Vitebsk, Belarus), Bukovini, Mal~opolska, Poland; Galicia, Austria US Residences: Oswego, Oswego, NY; Cherry Valley, Otsego, NY; Bridgeport, Fairfield, CT; Stratford, Fairfield, CT; Milford, New Haven, CT; Culver City & Inglewood, Los Angeles, CA; Wilkes-Barre, Luzerne, PA

Please disregard my request for John Herbert Evans, Cora Florence Evans and Amy Florence Evans DCT lookups. I made them before I knew you needed some time off. I've already ordered the DCTs. Anyone wanting info on these people, can e-mail me at nutcase@charter.net. Hope you get this before you waste your precious time. Thanks again for all your help. Lynn

My daughter was kind enough to venture out to Hanford to the Kings County Recorder's office today with my grandson, Matthew. They did have computers which aide in the search of family records and such, but she was told that she could not view the records unless she purchased the certified copy. This would explain why no one volunteers in Kings County from RAOGK. Thought you all would like to know. Deborah