There are obviously mistakes on one of the lists. My mom died in September, 2007. When her information was finally on the Social Security Death index, they had her last residence as Los Angeles, California. Well, she'd lived in Los Angeles for most of her life, but she'd lived in Honolulu, Hawaii for 10 years before she died and she died in Honolulu. I don't know how Social Security gets it's information; it very clearly states that she died in Honolulu on her death certificate and my sister gave Social Security all the informtion (including a copy of the death cert) when she notified them. And they still had her last residence incorrect on the list. Jeanne kaytt <[email protected]> wrote: These two indexes are undoubtedly for the same person, both having the same SSN. However the birth year is different on each and the death dates have a different day, month and year. What could be the reason for this, and which one is likely to be the right one? California Death Index: Name: MANNING, LEONTINE POSIENNE Social Security #: 561-28-4214 Sex: Female Birth Date: 25 July 1893 Birthplace: NEW JERSEY Death Date: 24 Jun 1983 Death Place: LOS ANGELES (19) Mother's Maiden Name: Father's Surname: SSN Index: Name: Leontine P. Manning SSN: 561-28-4214 Last Residence: 91506 Burbank, Los Angeles, California, United States of America Born: 25 Jul 1892 Died: 17 Mar 1989 State (Year) SSN issued: California (Before 1951 ) Kathy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

Kathy, >From my experience, instruction and understanding with these records, the SS death index would be more accurate with her birth date, since she was the actual person to fill out the application. But in order to be 100% accurate on that, you would need to purchase her ss-5 card application from the social security administration to see what she wrote down. Her last benefit may not have been claimed by a living person until that later year. The California death index record is probably closer to the correct death date because that form is filled out right after death to create the death certificate, but the person remembering when she was born, the informant, wasn't real accurate. Do you have any other records that would show a birth year or age, like a census record or marriage record? If you have the death certificate, it will show the burial information, mortuary, cemetery, or cremation info. You can also contact the company that prepared her remains for whatever took place there to see what their records have for her. Human error is also possible. The transcribers who indexed the records may have hit the wrong key on either of the online records. It just goes to show ya, that you have to take everything with a grain of salt and continue to try and get more records that she actually was alive to fill out. Even official records can be inaccurate. I purchased my grandmother's ss-5 application which she filled out herself, it had her correct birth date and mother's name and place of birth, but the rest of the parental information was wrong. She was married to her 2nd husband at the time, used her 1st husband's father's information as hers. I had learned that her real father died when she was real young, she never knew him and she married her first husband when she was 15 yrs old. I would say that would indicate any number of reasons why wrong information was on the application. I hope this has helped in some way. Keep hunting for more records to match the dates. Good luck to you. Loretta > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 01:18:44 -0600 > From: kaytt <[email protected]> > Subject: [CALOSANG] Same SSN number and name, different birth & death > dates in CDI & SSN > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; > reply-type=original > > These two indexes are undoubtedly for the same person, both having the same > SSN. However the birth year is different on each and the death dates have a > different day, month and year. > What could be the reason for this, and which one is likely to be the right > one? > > > California Death Index: > Name: MANNING, LEONTINE POSIENNE > Social Security #: 561-28-4214 > Sex: Female > Birth Date: 25 July 1893 > Birthplace: NEW JERSEY > Death Date: 24 Jun 1983 > Death Place: LOS ANGELES (19) > Mother's Maiden Name: > Father's Surname: > > > SSN Index: > Name: Leontine P. Manning > SSN: 561-28-4214 > Last Residence: 91506 Burbank, Los Angeles, California, United States of > America > Born: 25 Jul 1892 > Died: 17 Mar 1989 > State (Year) SSN issued: California (Before 1951 ) > _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008

These two indexes are undoubtedly for the same person, both having the same SSN. However the birth year is different on each and the death dates have a different day, month and year. What could be the reason for this, and which one is likely to be the right one? California Death Index: Name: MANNING, LEONTINE POSIENNE Social Security #: 561-28-4214 Sex: Female Birth Date: 25 July 1893 Birthplace: NEW JERSEY Death Date: 24 Jun 1983 Death Place: LOS ANGELES (19) Mother's Maiden Name: Father's Surname: SSN Index: Name: Leontine P. Manning SSN: 561-28-4214 Last Residence: 91506 Burbank, Los Angeles, California, United States of America Born: 25 Jul 1892 Died: 17 Mar 1989 State (Year) SSN issued: California (Before 1951 ) Kathy

I found Alice and George Hopkins' daughter, Mary B., on the CA death index. Mary B. Wheaton b 23 Aug 1898 Iowa d 25 Oct 1945 Los Angeles co., CA. How can I find out who her husband was? Thank you for your time and help. Jacie On 2/28/08, Jacie Thomsen <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello listers. I am hoping you all can help. Alice Charlotte Ridenour > was b 31 Jul 1866 Cedar co., IA to Jacob and Mary Beatty Ridenour. In > 1893, she mar George Hopkins, he had 3 daus, Margaret, Rosa E., and > Dora A., from his first wife and 3 daus, Ruth, Mary, and Blanche, with > Alice. George d 20 Jan 1937 in Bell, CA and Alice d 8 Dec 1953 LA > county, CA. Would any of you be willing to look up Alice's obit, or > tell me where to look? I truly appreciate your help. Thank you, Jacie > Thomsen >

Hello listers. I am hoping you all can help. Alice Charlotte Ridenour was b 31 Jul 1866 Cedar co., IA to Jacob and Mary Beatty Ridenour. In 1893, she mar George Hopkins, he had 3 daus, Margaret, Rosa E., and Dora A., from his first wife and 3 daus, Ruth, Mary, and Blanche, with Alice. George d 20 Jan 1937 in Bell, CA and Alice d 8 Dec 1953 LA county, CA. Would any of you be willing to look up Alice's obit, or tell me where to look? I truly appreciate your help. Thank you, Jacie Thomsen

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Hi Joyce, I was able to view microfilmed Long Beach newspapers at the California State Library(http://www.library.ca.gov/calhist/index.html) in Sacramento. They have a large selection of newspapers on microfilm from all over California. You can go the California Newspaper Project website http://www.cbsr.ucr.edu/cnp/ and check their searchable database for newspapers. This site can assist you in finding newspapers for various locations and time periods, and will tell you what libraries hold them. If your library isn't listed, they may be able to get the microfilm on interlibrary loan for you. Hope this is helpful! Robin -------------- Original message -------------- From: Joyce <[email protected]> > Hi List > > I've been following the conversation about old directories and saw the mention > of old Long Beach newspapers. Where are these viewable? Online or at the Long > Beach Library? I am interested in seeing newspapers fromt the late 1930s and > early 40s. That was when my Aunt disappeared in the Long Beach area. > Thanks, Jodi > > [email protected] wrote: > Thank you for the suggestion. I, too, have only found directories for 1907 > forward. However, while reviewing the Long Beach newspapers for 1904, I found > multiple advertisements for the 1904 Long Beach directory. I was hoping that the > local libraries might have a more extensive list of volumes available. > > Does anyone know if Long Beach residents were included under another city/county > directory for the period of 1900-1906? > > Thank you for any assistance! > Robin > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: [email protected] > > > I would contact the Main Long Beach City Library on Pacific Avenue. They > > have old Long Beach Directories on microfilm. Sorry, I did not note the > > starting > > date. > > > > Liz Myers, President > > Questing Heirs Genealogical Society > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > > the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

I would like to get a transcription of the death certificate for my Grandmother. Her name was Elizabeth Eterovich. She died April 20, 1967 in Los Angeles County. Any help would be deeply appreciated. Thanks, Terry Lee

Robin Thank you for the info. on newspapers, much appreciated. Joyce [email protected] wrote: Hi Joyce, I was able to view microfilmed Long Beach newspapers at the California State Library(http://www.library.ca.gov/calhist/index.html) in Sacramento. They have a large selection of newspapers on microfilm from all over California. You can go the California Newspaper Project website http://www.cbsr.ucr.edu/cnp/ and check their searchable database for newspapers. This site can assist you in finding newspapers for various locations and time periods, and will tell you what libraries hold them. If your library isn't listed, they may be able to get the microfilm on interlibrary loan for you. Hope this is helpful! Robin -------------- Original message -------------- From: Joyce > Hi List > > I've been following the conversation about old directories and saw the mention > of old Long Beach newspapers. Where are these viewable? Online or at the Long > Beach Library? I am interested in seeing newspapers fromt the late 1930s and > early 40s. That was when my Aunt disappeared in the Long Beach area. > Thanks, Jodi > > [email protected] wrote: > Thank you for the suggestion. I, too, have only found directories for 1907 > forward. However, while reviewing the Long Beach newspapers for 1904, I found > multiple advertisements for the 1904 Long Beach directory. I was hoping that the > local libraries might have a more extensive list of volumes available. > > Does anyone know if Long Beach residents were included under another city/county > directory for the period of 1900-1906? > > Thank you for any assistance! > Robin > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: [email protected] > > > I would contact the Main Long Beach City Library on Pacific Avenue. They > > have old Long Beach Directories on microfilm. Sorry, I did not note the > > starting > > date. > > > > Liz Myers, President > > Questing Heirs Genealogical Society > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > > the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi List I've been following the conversation about old directories and saw the mention of old Long Beach newspapers. Where are these viewable? Online or at the Long Beach Library? I am interested in seeing newspapers fromt the late 1930s and early 40s. That was when my Aunt disappeared in the Long Beach area. Thanks, Jodi [email protected] wrote: Thank you for the suggestion. I, too, have only found directories for 1907 forward. However, while reviewing the Long Beach newspapers for 1904, I found multiple advertisements for the 1904 Long Beach directory. I was hoping that the local libraries might have a more extensive list of volumes available. Does anyone know if Long Beach residents were included under another city/county directory for the period of 1900-1906? Thank you for any assistance! Robin -------------- Original message -------------- From: [email protected] > I would contact the Main Long Beach City Library on Pacific Avenue. They > have old Long Beach Directories on microfilm. Sorry, I did not note the > starting > date. > > Liz Myers, President > Questing Heirs Genealogical Society > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you for the suggestion. I, too, have only found directories for 1907 forward. However, while reviewing the Long Beach newspapers for 1904, I found multiple advertisements for the 1904 Long Beach directory. I was hoping that the local libraries might have a more extensive list of volumes available. Does anyone know if Long Beach residents were included under another city/county directory for the period of 1900-1906? Thank you for any assistance! Robin -------------- Original message -------------- From: [email protected] > I would contact the Main Long Beach City Library on Pacific Avenue. They > have old Long Beach Directories on microfilm. Sorry, I did not note the > starting > date. > > Liz Myers, President > Questing Heirs Genealogical Society > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

If anyone has easy access to the Los Angeles County marriage records between 1920 - 1932, I will appreciate a lookup of the marriage of my grandmother. Grooms Name:? Earl Harvey Bride's Name:? Nettie Lee (Darnell) or last name could have been another married name, possibly McKinley Date:? 1920 - 1932 Thank you very much, J Williams ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com

I would contact the Main Long Beach City Library on Pacific Avenue. They have old Long Beach Directories on microfilm. Sorry, I did not note the starting date. Liz Myers, President Questing Heirs Genealogical Society

I am looking for city directories for Long Beach between 1900 and 1906. Does anybody know if there is a library that has them? If they do, are they books or microfilm? Thanking you advance for any assistance you can provide! Robin

It appears that none was published prior to 1907. Neither the Library of Congress nor the Los Angeles Public Library (which has one of the largest collections of city directories west of the Mississippi) has a Long Beach city directory dated prior to 1907. Mark Lomax Pasadena, CA On 2/19/08, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > I am looking for city directories for Long Beach between 1900 and > 1906. Does anybody know if there is a library that has them? If they do, > are they books or microfilm? > > Thanking you advance for any assistance you can provide! > Robin > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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Charles "Pop" Kelchner was married on June 9, 1900 to Carie A. Moyer, and they had one daughter, Kathryn. "Pop's" wife passed away on March 29, 1933. "Pop" also had a brother, Jay. Both Jay and Kathryn moved on to California. Jay was a bachelor; however, Kathryn was married to C. E. Jones, and she had several sons, but I have no names or the full name of Kathryn's husband. They lived in Alhambra, California. Kathryn was born March 22, 1902 and passed away Nov. 26, 1997 in Alhambra, CA. The reason I am posting this is because this year the Reading (PA) Phillies are having an induction of Pop Kelchner into the Hall of Fame, and they would like to have some relatives present at the induction ceremony. Can anyone help? Perhaps Kathryn's obituary would give the names of her sons, and the full name of her husband. Thanks, Sidney in Pennsylvania

You would obtain a copy of the marriage certificate from the L.A. County Registrar-Recorder/Clerk. The cost is US $13. Here's a link to the web site: * http://www.lavote.net/RECORDER/BDM_Records.cfm#marriage* Mark Lomax Pasadena, CA On 2/9/08, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi Mark.... > > Thanks for responding....sorry it took so long in responding, been with > the grandkids..... > > I found this information on RootsWeb, marriage records. > > Tom > > > > > *"Mark Lomax" <[email protected]>* > > 02/07/2008 10:32 PM > To > [email protected] cc > [email protected] Subject > Re: [CALOSANG] 1875 Marriage Record - Anaheim > > > > > Anaheim is in Orange County. Are you sure the couple married in Los > Angeles County? What is the source of your information? > > Mark Lomax > Pasadena, CA > > > On 2/7/08, *[email protected]* <[email protected]> <*[email protected]*<[email protected]>> > wrote: > Hello all... > > I have just joined this list from sunny Canada.... :-) I am looking for > the marriage records / info for the following couple. > Hopefully I am on the right list? > > Robert Michel > Spouse: Henrietta Battenberg > Date: 28 Aug 1875 > Residence: Anaheim (for both) > Age: 34 Henrietta's age is listed as 36 > Born: Germany (for both) > County and State: Los Angeles Co. Ca > > If this info is available, would it list Robert and Henrietta's parents? > > Thanks for reading....any help at all is much appreciated. > > Tom > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to * > [email protected]* <[email protected]> with the > word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > >

Thanks Marsha for the information....I have been with the grandkids so my timing in responding was slow.... Do you know how I can obtain a copy of the marriage record? Tom Marsha Ensminger <[email protected]> Sent by: [email protected] 02/07/2008 11:55 PM Please respond to [email protected] To [email protected] cc Subject Re: [CALOSANG] 1875 Marriage Record - Anaheim Anaheim is in Orange County NOW, and for the past hundred and some odd years, but Orange County's Centennial was celebrated after we moved here in 1982. In 1875, it would have been Los Angeles County - so the record is probably in the big ledgers in Norwalk. --- Mark Lomax <[email protected]> wrote: > Anaheim is in Orange County. Are you sure the couple married in Los Angeles > County? What is the source of your information? > > Mark Lomax > Pasadena, CA > > > On 2/7/08, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hello all... > > > > I have just joined this list from sunny Canada.... :-) I am looking for > > the marriage records / info for the following couple. > > Hopefully I am on the right list? > > > > Robert Michel > > Spouse: Henrietta Battenberg > > Date: 28 Aug 1875 > > Residence: Anaheim (for both) > > Age: 34 Henrietta's age is listed as 36 > > Born: Germany (for both) > > County and State: Los Angeles Co. Ca > > > > If this info is available, would it list Robert and Henrietta's parents? > > > > Thanks for reading....any help at all is much appreciated. > > > > Tom > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the > word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Mark.... Thanks for responding....sorry it took so long in responding, been with the grandkids..... I found this information on RootsWeb, marriage records. Tom "Mark Lomax" <[email protected]> 02/07/2008 10:32 PM To [email protected] cc [email protected] Subject Re: [CALOSANG] 1875 Marriage Record - Anaheim Anaheim is in Orange County. Are you sure the couple married in Los Angeles County? What is the source of your information? Mark Lomax Pasadena, CA On 2/7/08, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: Hello all... I have just joined this list from sunny Canada.... :-) I am looking for the marriage records / info for the following couple. Hopefully I am on the right list? Robert Michel Spouse: Henrietta Battenberg Date: 28 Aug 1875 Residence: Anaheim (for both) Age: 34 Henrietta's age is listed as 36 Born: Germany (for both) County and State: Los Angeles Co. Ca If this info is available, would it list Robert and Henrietta's parents? Thanks for reading....any help at all is much appreciated. Tom ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message