This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: skdulcich Surnames: Lopp, Harvey, Ferguson, Hillwig, Ecker Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.california.counties.kern/14635.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: LOPP THAYL SARAH DOB: 07/31/1907 F MISSOURI mother: HARVEY father: FERGUSON died: KERN 06/06/1995 age: 87 yrs Requested by: message board http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.california.counties.kern/2751/mb.ashx I am not related to any of these people, but I do assist with obits here in Kern Co. I have added Thayl Lopp to my list to check on. I also note from the Calif. Birth Index (created by the state of CA from birth certificates issued) that the mothers maiden name for Stanley Lopp that was born in San Bernardino in 1924 was Hillwig, not Ferguson. A sister was born in 1926 to the same couple. LOPP LEILA MAE date of birth: 12/12/1926 father: HILLWIG sex: FEMALE place of birth: LOS ANGELES LOPP STANLEY R date of birth: 12/7/1924 mother: HILLWIG sex: MALE place of birth: SAN BERNARDINO I found the family in the 1930 census in Gardena, Los Angeles County, California. Lopp, Paul S., head, rents, $30.00 month rent, has a radio set, not a farm, M, W, age 27, married, age 19 when first married, did not attend school during the year, able to read and write, born Pennsylvania, both parents born Penn., occ: pumper, industry: Oil Co., not a veteran Lopp, Iva H., wife, F, W, age 27, married, age 19 when first married, did not attend school during the year, able to read and write, born Pennsylvania, both parents born Penn. Lopp, Leila M., daughter, F,W, age 3, single, did not attend school during the year, able to read and write, born California Lopp, Lloyd, son, M, W, age 6, single, attended school during the year, able to read and write, born Missouri Lopp, Stanley, son, M, W, age 5, single, attended school during the year, able to read and write, born California To make matters more interesting - Thayl and Iva are two different people! Here is the entry for Iva H. Lopp who died in San Bernardino County: LOPP IVA H born: 06/10/1903 F PENNSYLVANIA died: SAN BERNARDINO 03/22/1974 SS# 570-30-0638 age: 70 yrs ------ The Janelle that married Stanley, had been married before. The California Marriage Index gives her name as both Janelle Worrell and Janelle Long. She and Stanley divorced in June 1976 California Divorce Index, 1966-1984 Name: Stanley R Lopp Spouse Name: Janelle M Worrell LOCATION: Los Angeles Date: Jun 1976 Now, Thayl and Paul were married in 1971 in Reno, Nevada. So, none of these children are hers. Groom Last Name: LOPP Groom First Name: PAUL Groom middle name: S Groom: G Control Certificate Year: 1971 Microfilm Control Number: 063321 Bride or Groom State: 99 Bride Last Name: ECKER Bride First Name: THAYL Bride Middle Name: S Bride state: 99 Marriage date month: 08 Marriage date day: 18 Marriage date Year: 1971 City/County of marriage: 005 (Washoe Co., Reno) Recorded date month: 09 Recorded date day: 03 Recorded date year: 1971 City/County of Recording: 715 (Washoe Co.) County Instrument Number: 0000000000 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.