This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XOH.2ACIB/2307 Message Board Post: ok heres what i have so far....J. murphy Cates had about 11 kids...two of whom are a Joseph and a david samuel Cates...well, joeseph married Lucy Cain, but he died and then she married his brother David...i am a decendant of theres, and have gotten my information from a living relative...my relative stated that Lucy's middle name was Ellen... and that she had 7 children....Mary, lois, Lucy, Shirley, Jeppie, and two male children, i havent found yet......my problem is this... i have found a tree online... Volumn 22 tree # 834 and the tree matches to a T.. There is a J. Murphy Cates who had 11 kids, 2 of which married the same Lucy...However, the Lucy on this tree is listed as Lucy A. Cain... yet their dates of birth and death match... how do i rectify this issue, and find out what her middle name is... My relative is still sayin that her Middle name was Ellen.... can someone please help me out a little bit.. we sure would appreciate it... Have a wonderful Holiday...Tanya....! [email protected]