First I want to thank everyone for all there help so far. And also offer a free lookup in the History of Humboldt County Circa 1882. This book is on loan from a library and I only have it for a couple more weeks. Its mostly illistration and town info. but has a few biographies of promentant people. Back to my brick wall. Here's what I got so far, Roy E. Mcknight (Mcnight,Mc Knight,McKnight originally spelled with a lower case c with 2 lines under it still don't know what this means) also known as Leroy Edwin Mcnight same variations on last name born in Canada (east coast possibly Quabec) Either April 1876 (1900 Census) or 1 May 1877 (Family) to Irish father and French Canadian mother (not sure on mothers ancestry also from family sources).Orphaned between birth and the age of two(also family conjecture) and raised in Fields Landing,Humboldt County came to Humboldt between 1878 and 1879 (his obituary which doesn't name parents). Married Elsie Aldrich and Jennie Petersen (County Records). Had seven+ children with Jennie before he died or they divorced not sure which. 2 are still living but know idea where they are today. Roy died in 1932 of heart problems. Also the name lester is significant in my family its the middle name of the first born (if its a son) and its passed down from first child to first child. So that means that he was the first son but not the oldest child, because he gave his oldest boy, my grandfather, the middle name Lester. Any help or ideas? Thanks again for all the help already given. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage!