Glad it helped you. Here are some additional notes I have collected from various sources: Mr. J. Jack Cagle provided the following sketch to the Cagle Journal and was published in May 1985: "My knowledge of our ancestors is limited to my grandfather, Henry Pinkney Cagle, who practiced medicine in and around Rockwood, Roane Co., TN. My father was only seven years old when grandfather died in about 1896. My father died in 1949 and was John B. Cagle. He was a coal mining engineer and moved around in Kentucky, NC, WVA, and eastern TN, in pursuit of his profession. He spent his last several years in Chattanooga, TN. I came to Florida in 1958 and worked with NASA as a Safety Engineer until my retirement in 1972. I am 69." Henry was a farmer and "Root Doctor" and in one census was listed as a clergyman. Henry was listed on the 1850 Census of Lawrence Co., AL living with his older brother, Isaac and his family. Both, Henry's wife, Mary and his sister, Dovey M were residing with Isaac who was a Baptist Minister. Henry followed his brothers, to Missouri, and Illinois. This line is being researched by Jay Childress <[email protected]> Jay states he has a note written by Henry to the Whitley Co., KY Court Clerk approving of Laura's marriage to James Fox who is Jay Childress' ggrandfather. Henry is listed in the 1900 US Fed Census of Whitley Co., KY living with his dau Laura and son-in-law, James Fox. 1850 Lawarence Co. AL Cagle, Isaac R. 34 TN Baptist Clergyman /$100 p.407 Amanda 27 " Elizabeth 11 " In School Martha 9 " " " Henry 7 " John 5 " Matilda 3 " Cagle, Henry P. 26 TN Laborer (brother of Isaac R.) Mary 26 " Dovie M. 24 " (sister of Isaac R. and Henry P.) 1860 (MY notes: must have been married to 2nd wife, Unknown, these other children in census below, there is a gap of five years and to old to be Catherine's ) 1870 Scott, MO: Moreland Twp, St. Cloud P.O. Kagle, Henry 39 TN Physician #160/160 Catherine 25 " Joseph 13 MO Martha J. 11 " Melville 10 " John 9 IL Sarah A. 2 " Wm. P. 3/12 Mo 1880 Alexander , IL. : Precinct #14 (E. Cape Girardeau) Keggle, Henry P. 53 TN TN TN Farmer #106/106 (was listed as a physician in 1870) Catherine 37 " " " Keeping House Sarah A. 12 IL TN TN At Home William P. 10 Mo TN TN " " Luverba E. 6 IL TN TN " " Charles A. 3 " " " " " Laura M. 2 " " " " " Note: Mary Priest , first wife of Henry Preston, is in 1860 Census of Lawrence Co. AL, with son, James. Henry and Mary were divorced. James with his family is living next to his father, Henry Preston and his new family for the 1880 Census. James 28 , was the son of Henry P. by his first wife. Henry P Cagle, was the son of Henry & Celia Cagle of Warren County, TN, and the brother of Ignatius W. Cagle, 1812-1889, of Lawrence Co. Mo. and Isaac R Cagle, of 1870 Johnson Co., IL. In 1850, these brothers lived in Morgan and Lawrence Counties, Alabama, moved to southern Illinois, then by 1870 was living in Scott County, Missouri, directly across the river from Alexander Co., IL where he had moved by 1880. In 1989 the Cagle Newsletter had a very nice article about Henry Pickney Cagle and his wife Susanna E. Cagle. It traces his history back to the Revolutionary War Soldier Jacob Cagle and beyond. As this is my assumed line of Cagle decent, this article was a welcome find. However there is something that does not fit with this Henry P Cagle being in the Jacob Cagle line as developed in the article. First, the 1900 census of Cumberland County Tennessee has Henry P. Cagle age 63; (birth month and year is missing), born in TN, and both parents born in TN. His occupation in the article is given as physician but the source of this information was only family oral history. The 1900 census has him listed as a clergyman. At he Archives of the State of Tennessee, I request a search to see if there may have been a licensed physician by this name, but none was found. Also of importance is that the date of the enumeration is listed as June 7, 1900. Second, the 1900 census of Whitley Co in Kentucky we find Henry Kagle living with his daughter, Laura, son in law, James Fox, and grand son, Joe. This Henry Cagle is listed as being age 72, born in Nov. of 1827 in TN and his parents were both born in NC. His daughter Laura was listed as being born in IL with both of her parents being born in TN. The date of the enumeration is listed as June 9th of 1900. . I had initially thought that these two men may have been one in the same and that he was counted twice while visiting his daughter in Kentucky. However, as the dates of the two enumerations are shown to have been recorded only a day and one-half apart, I doubt that in 1900 it would have been feasible to have made such a trip in such a short time. Also, I have a copy of the permission slip when Lauras father gave permission for his underage daughter to marry. It is signed H.P. Cagle. On 24 Aug 1865 a man listed as H.P. Cagle married Catherine Warner in Johnson Co. IL. Catherine who was born in Tennessee was his 4th wife. The 1880 Census of Alexander Co, IL, next to Johnson Co. IL, list Henry P age 53 and Catherine 37 with their youngest child listed as Laura M age 2. This would match the age for the 16-year Laura who married my great-grandfather James Fox in Whitley County on 9 Sep 1894 and it would also match the location of her birth. Family history tells us that Lauras middle name was Magnolia, which would also match the Laura M. as listed in the 1880 census. In addition, my grandfathers youngest sister, Mae, is still living and she said her mother Laura spoke of her siblings Will, Charles, and Ellen as well as half-brothers Jimmy and Johnny. These names match well with the census of 1870 and 1880 in which the H.P. Cagle family is listed. As I noted above, the 1989 article lists the Cumberland Co Henry Cagle as a physician while the 1900 census lists him as a clergyman. To add to the confusion, the 1870 census of Scott Co in Missouri (across the Mississippi from Johnson Co IL) has a Henry P. Cagle as a Physician. I contend this is the same Henry as in the 1880 census in IL as the name of the wife in both cases is Catherine, and the names and ages of the children match perfectly with the 1880 IL census. Moreover, family oral history notes that the Henry who was in Whitley County KY in 1900 was highly regarded as a root doctor or herbalist, but certainly not a physician. I can see how genealogical researchers may have confused these two men. But, for all of the reasoning listed above, I conclude that the Henry P. Cagle in the 1900 census of Cumberland County TN and the Henry of Whitley County KY are different men. Also I contend that the Whitley County KY Henry is the H.P. Cagle who was the husband of Catherine Warner and the son of Henry Cagle and the grandson of Revolutionary War Soldier Jacob Cagle. Jacob and his wife Celia were both born in NC and later moved to Warren Co TN where H P Cagle was born. This also matches the 1900 census record of the Whitley Co, KY Henry relative to the place of his birth and that of his parents. The fact that the Laura listed in the 1900 census of Whitley County, KY is noted as being born in IL and that her parents were born in TN only adds to my conclusion. As H.P. Cagle's father Henry died prior to the very important 1850 census, I have not been able to develop a DAR proof of the connection of Henry P. to Henry or Henry to Jacob but a preponderance of the circumstantial evidence leads me to believe this to be the case. I would welcome comment on the above reasoning. Dr. Joseph Childress It appears to med, Dr Joseph Childress has done considerable research and I would tend to go along with his theory. Lee Cagle Okla City On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 9:58:42 -0500 <[email protected]> writes: > You have done a great job on the Cagle line..on Rootsweb..World > Connect. > After my last e-mail to you I found my line..decending from Henry > Pickney Cagle & Susannah(Mullins). > > Thanks..Lora > > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!