So, per the kerchner site, Theobald = Dawalt in English. Hmm. Thanks for the connection. Now, back to file merging....... I hear the Dragnet theme in the back of my mind - dum, de, dum, dum or some such. John Speight -----Original Message----- From: Sandra Mckeithan [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 7:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CAGLE] Re: George Cagle c. 1750, 1745, 1740 - Moore, Rowan, Montgomery Co?? After reading countless messages concerning the names Leonard Kegel's sons, I started searching to see if I could come up with something that might help us. I found the following site that explains the naming of the German and PA German children. The address is www.kerchner.com/nickname.htm . After looking at the Americanized versions of some of the names, go to the very bottom of the page and click on German Naming Customs. I think that will explain why we might have 2 Johns or Georges or whatever in this family. Hope it helps someone. Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Earl Cagle" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [CAGLE] Re: George Cagle c. 1750, 1745, 1740 - Moore, Rowan, Montgomery Co?? > To those of you new to the Cagle list, these issues have been > discussed many times before. We at one time discussed how German names > were changed over a period of time, once these people settled in > America. To start with many were illiterate and there for couldn't > even spell their own surname. If your name was Kegel, and someone in a > record spelled it in a different way, you were none the wiser. First > names were changed as well such as Johan to John, Leonhart to Leonard. > We had discussed how Dewalt , may have became David. I don't remember > what we determined the name Theobald, to be. When this list was > started about six years ago there weren't as many resources on the Internet > as there are now. I think with some research on the Internet we can > determine what some German first names became in America. There are > still people living today in America and Germany with the surname > Kegel, and I have seen Cagley as a surname. I don't know if all of > these surnames started out as Kegel, and then changed into a few > similar surnames. > It is still open to debate as to who all were children of Leonhart > Kegel, our immigrant ancestor. Keep in mind however that he was born > abt. 1684, may have started fathering > children as young as seventeen. He may also have continued to have children > into his late 60's or early 70's. > Also we know he was married more than once, added to the fact that > many early records are very sparse. Earl > > > > [Original Message] > > From: David Cagle <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Date: 10/18/2003 5:09:41 PM > > Subject: Re: [CAGLE] Re: George Cagle c. 1750, 1745, 1740 - Moore, > Rowan, Montgomery Co?? > > > > John, > > The Baptismal record shows: Johan Theobald Kegel. > > I am not sure how Dewalt got into this? > > > > David > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: John Speight <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 10:59 AM > > Subject: RE: [CAGLE] Re: George Cagle c. 1750, 1745, 1740 - Moore, Rowan, > > Montgomery Co?? > > > > > > > David - > > > I'll merge the two lines and see what I see. Thanks for helping. > > > Was the person, then, Johann Theobald Daywalt Kegel(l)? John > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: David Cagle [mailto:[email protected]] > > > Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 8:36 AM > > > To: John Speight; [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [CAGLE] Re: George Cagle c. 1750, 1745, 1740 - Moore, > > > Rowan, Montgomery Co?? > > > > > > > > > John, > > > I missed the question---I think? > > > Dewalt and Theobald are the same person---David Cagle, b. 1728 Germany. > > > David > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: John Speight <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 6:09 AM > > > Subject: RE: [CAGLE] Re: George Cagle c. 1750, 1745, 1740 - Moore, > > > Rowan, Montgomery Co?? > > > > > > > > > > Donna - > > > > My sentiments exactly. I got dead silence when I posted a query about > > > > the 2nd generation of Cagles (e.g., Dawalt vs Theobald). I'm > > > > afraid all of us are using some and the same bogus info. Sigh. > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 10:24 PM > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: [CAGLE] Re: George Cagle c. 1750, 1745, 1740 - Moore, Rowan, > > > > Montgomery Co?? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hmmm. Does the silence (to my post below) mean there's no one > > > > out there? Or, > > > > does it mean no one is willing to go on record? :-) I've been > > > looking > > > > at > > > > Ancestry and it seems there are many people with the same > > > > confused records. Anyone? > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 10:40 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [CAGLE] George Cagle c. 1750 > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm trying to clean up my records and came across a duplicate > > > > > person. I'm not sure which entry is correct. Can someone in > > > > > this line clear this up > > > > for > > > > > me? > > > > > > > > > > I have George Cagle b. about 1750 linked to Lenhardt Kegel > > > > > (the > > > > > immigrant) as his father. Then I also have George Cagle b. abt 1750 > > > > > linked to David (Theobald Dewalt) as his father. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > Donna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > > > > > genealogy records, > > > > go to: > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=123 > > > > > 7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > > > records, go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > > > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237