Dana, I have read a will was prorated in Henderson Co., NC in 1854, but have never seen a copy of it. If you have a copy would you send a transcribed copy to me. I have the information discovered by John G Cagle and published in several different writings, perhaps it will help you. These are the various notes I have found from those writings: " In addition to Valentine, this group included three young men, John Cagle, 1782-1854, Charles Cagle Jr., b. 1770, and Jacob Cagle, b. 1770s, who are probably nephews of Valentine, and sons of Charles Cagle, Sr., who died in 1801 in old Montgomery (present Stanly) Co., NC. At the time of the 1800 Census, these three men were enumerated in Buncombe County: Valentine (1211-1021), Charles (0001-3001) and Jacob (001-101). Valentine and Charles are erroneously listed in the 26-45 age bracket. Valentine; however, had a son and two daughters in the 16-26 age bracket, so must have been 40-45 years of age. Charles was somewhat younger, having only three daughters under 10 at home; was probably around 30 yrs of age. Jacob was younger still, enumerated in the 16-26 bracket. Valentine did have a son named John, 1798-1863; but, this John must be distinguished from John , 1782-1854, of the 1806 entry. Valentine's John later moved with him to Tennessee, and eventually settled in what is now Winston Co., AL in the1830s. John, 1782-1854, is a brother of Charles and Jacob Cagle. Compare with the Estate Settlement of Charles Cagle, Sr in Montgomery (Stanly) Co., in 1803, in which his sons are named as Charles, Jacob, John, Leonard, and George. "Among the early residents of Mecklenburg Co., NC were Conrad Hartwick and wife Susanna Cagle, daughter of Charles Cagle Sr; the Hartwicks began to appear in Mecklenburg Co census records in 1790 and by 1810 were joined by John Cagle, who is now known to have been Susanna's younger brother. Another daughter of Charles Cagle Sr was Catherine "Kitty" Cagle, who married Elias Horn, and appeared in the 1800 and 1810 census in nearby Montgomery Co., NC. At the time of the 1820 census, the Hartwicks, Horns and John Cagle were all absent from the census records, either having been missed by the Census taker, or having been residents of Montgomery Co., NC, for which the 1820 census has been destroyed. However, the death of Elias Horn, and his appearance in Probate Records in Mecklenburg Co in 1822 provides the clue for the identification of John Cagle. Elias Horn's will, found in Mecklenburg County Will Book D, p.81, which is summarized, clearly shows that he was the brother in law of John Cagle. "p81. Elias Horn. 11 Jan 1822, probate in Aug 1822 ct. Being in a very low state of health, I give $1 to each of my following children: Lanier, Mary, Michael, Sarah, Elizabeth, Agness, Caty, Bidy, and Alexander Burton. I give the Caty Caigle, dau of my brother in law John Caigle the $500 owed to me by my brother Absolom, to the said John Caigle a mare with saddle and bridle as well as the $60 owed to me by my mother Sarah Horn. Sole Executor: John Caigle. Wit: Jesse Brooks, John Wallace and Anthony Harkie." Lee Cagle Okla City ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!