Dana, These are the rest of my notes which have been taken from different sources, placed in chronological order in an effort to make sense of, perhaps they will help you. Please let me know if you discover anything on this line. Lee Cagle Okla City In 1806, John Cagle entered the first of his NC land grants on Fetherston's Creek in Buncombe Co., now Henderson County, NC. This was not far from the Valentine and Charles Cagle entries of the 1798-1803 era. While Valentine and Charles eventually migrated to TN, John Cagle, 1782-1854, remained in Henderson County the rest of his life and left many descendants in the region. John was a young man of about 24 years at the time of his entry of 1806, and this may have been his first land acquisition. His tract lay on the head branches of Fetherston and Millar Creeks, on the south side of the mountain between Clear Creek and Hooper's Creek, present Henderson County, NC of the present town of Hendersonville. The chain carriers for the survey were James Morgan and himself. John's second land entry in what is now Henderson County came in late 1807, and was situated on the Middle Fork of Fetherston's Creek. This was in the same general area as his first entry in 1806. This consisted of 100 acres and adjoined his own property, and the land of James Morgan, who had been his chain carrier at his entry of 1806. By the time of the survey, on 19 Apr, 1808, John apparently was living on his entry of 1806, for the survey notes his new entry as "Beginning on Three Spanish Oaks and a Dogwood standing in a hollow and near the path that leads from SD. Cagle's house to his field on the mountain". The tract lay on the North and Middle Forks of Fetherston's Creek. In the census of 1810, only John Cagle remains in Buncombe County of the Cagles who had lived in the Hooper Creek area. Jacob Cagle 1755-1845, another brother of Valentine, had moved from Moore to Buncombe County by 1810, but was located in what is now Transylvania County, many miles from John: 1810 Buncombe Co., NC: Cagle, John 2001-10__Unknown___ Cagle, Jacob 11101-01_Unknown__ At the time of the census of 1810, when John Cagle first appeared as a head of household, he was living on his place on Fetherston's Creek, which he had entered in 1806 and 1807. In 1811; however he sold 100 acres on Fetherston's Creek to Benjamin Lewis, recorded in Deed Book D, page 87, on 15 Nov 1811. By 1820, John had been joined in the census records by a Leonard Cagle, 1798-1866, who himself would later appear in eight land entries in what are now Henderson and Transylvania County in 1828-1830 and 1857-1858: 1820 Buncombe Co., NC Cagle, John 11001-4101 Cagle, Leonard 0101-101 By the time of the 1820 Census, Leonard and Mary Osborne Cagle who had married in Jan 1819, were enumerated in Buncombe County "0101-101". The infant daughter in their home for the 1820 Census of Buncombe County was Anna Cagle who later married Caleb Orr, b. 1822. The young male in the 10-15 age bracket (1804-1810) is thought to be Leonard's younger brother, Henry Washington Cagle and who later bought a tract of land with Leonard on Mud Creek in 1833. Henry later had a land entry in Old Buncombe Co., in 1835. The next land entry for John came on 6 Sep 1822, and was situated "on waters of Mud Creek & Hungary". This location, on Mud Creek and Hungary Creek, was near the present town of Hendersonville. This was surveyed in October of 1823, and granted 30 Nov 1824 consisting of 200 acres described as being on "Top of the Blue Ridge" and on the "East Side of the Ridge, Headwaters of Mud and Hungry Creeks". Adjoining landowners mentioned are Lyons' corner and Steel's path. The chain carriers were Jesse McMinn and John Lyons. Though this was John's last land grant, he bought and sold a number of other tracts of land in this region in the years following. 1830 Buncombe Co., NC Cagle, John 0001001-2220001 Cagle, William 10001-00001 Son of John Cagle, Leonard 010001-310001 Cagle, Henry 00001-20001 Brother of Leonard By 1830, they were joined in the census records by John's son, William Cagle, 1806-1885, who appears as a head of household for the first time. Leonard, 1798-1854, and Henry c.1803-Aft 1880, were nephews of John. Leonard eventually moved into what is now Transylvania (then part of old Buncombe), and Henry moved northward into that part of the county which remained as Buncombe, after the boundary changes. Henderson County was formed from Buncombe in 1838, and in the census of 1840, three Cagle household were listed: 1840 Henderson Co., NC Cagle, William 111001-21001 Cagle, Jacob 00001-10001 Cagle, Leonard 12101--11001 John seems to have been missed by the census taker in 1840, but later appeared in the 1850 census of Henderson. John's son William, 1806-1885, was joined as a head of household by his younger brother Jacob b. 1812. Leonard Cagle, 1798-1866, and wife, are here listed in the wrong age bracket by the census taker (listed in the 20-30 but, are actually in their forties). In 1850, John Cagle appears in his final census in Henderson County at the age of 68, with sons William and Jacob living nearby. 1850 Henderson NC: Cagle, John 68 NC Laborer Jane 65 NC Elizabeth 16 NC (Probably a grand daughter) Cagle, William 44 NC Farmer Anthret 40 NC Rebecca 19 NC Lorena 17 NC Viny 12 NC Myra 10 NC Anthret 6 NC William 2 NC Cagle, *Isaac 40 NC Farmer Rachel 35 " Emily S 12 " Susan 10 " G.W. 8 " Eliz M 6 " Wm 4 " *This listing was provided secondhand; if correct, it would seem that Jacob Cagle, b. 1812, was listed by a middle name in 1850. In 1860, he is again enumerated as Jacob. Leonard Cagle and family also, are enumerated in Henderson County in 1850. Space does not permit an account of the many land transactions of John Cagle, 1782-1854, in the Henderson County area, most of which occurred after these three land entries of 1806, 1807, and 1822. However, an account of these has already been given in the chapter on Henderson County in the "Cagle Families in the South to 1850, Vol l, North Carolina by John G. Cagle. John Cagle, it is believed, died in 1854 in Henderson County. Will dated 3 Jan. 1852 and probated June Session of 1854, Henderson Co. NC Book 1, Page 37: "In the name of God amen. I, John Cagle of Henderson Co. NC being sick and not expecting to live much longer in the world but being perfectly sound in mind do make this my last will and testament. First, I will and bequeath to my wife Jane (or Jinny) all the land where I now live consisting of one hundred and twenty five acres more or less to do as she thinks best with it to support her while she lives and at her death the said land to be equally divided among all our children. I also will and bequeath to my wife Jane my oxin and wagon and all my cattle (illegible) sheep hogs and all my household and kitchen furniture of every kind and all the mill irons and anything belonging to the mill I bought from J. Jones. In witness whereof I hereunto set my hand and seal this 3rd day of Jan. 1852." John Cagle (seal) In presence of Benj. D. Gullick and W.W. CaseNC Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions, Henderson Co. June Session of 1854. The execution and publication of the foregoing will was duly proven in open court and admitted of Probate July 3rd 1854: R.W. Allen, CCC. ------------------------------------------------------- No heirs are named in the estate settlement for Jane, 1856. Only bond, inventory and settlement are included. Jacob Cagle (probably son) was named special administrator. I do not have a copy but it is abstracted in the book, "Abstract Henderson Co. NC Estate Records 1838-1900" by Kathleen Summers, 2002. Buried in Henderson Co., NC. Will probated in Henderson Co., NC. According to census records it appears that John was moving around; however, that portion of old Rutherford Co., NC which became Buncombe Co in 1791, later became Henderson Co in 1938. So, though it appeared that John was moving around, it was actually the county lines being changed which created that appearance. On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 15:50:45 -0700 (PDT) Dana Meara <[email protected]> writes: Lee, Pasted below is the will of John Cagle. --------------------------- Will dated 3 Jan. 1852 and probated June Session of 1854, Henderson Co. NC Book 1, Page 37: "In the name of God amen. I, John Cagle of Henderson Co. NC being sick and not expecting to live much longer in the world but being perfectly sound in mind do make this my last will and testament. First, I will and bequeath to my wife Jane (or Jinny) all the land where I now live consisting of one hundred and twenty five acres more or less to do as she thinks best with it to support her while she lives and at her death the said land to be equally divided among all our children. I also will and bequeath to my wife Jane my oxin and wagon and all my cattle (illegible) sheep hogs and all my household and kitchen furniture of every kind and all the mill irons and anything belonging to the mill I bought from J. Jones. In witness whereof I hereunto set my hand and seal this 3rd day of Jan. 1852." John Cagle (seal) In presence of Benj. D. Gullick and W.W. CaseNC Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions, Henderson Co. June Session of 1854. The execution and publication of the foregoing will was duly proven in open court and admitted of Probate July 3rd 1854: R.W. Allen, CCC. ------------------------------------------------------- No heirs are named in the estate settlement for Jane, 1856. Only bond, inventory and settlement are included. Jacob Cagle (probably son) was named special administrator. I do not have a copy but it is abstracted in the book, "Abstract Henderson Co. NC Estate Records 1838-1900" by Kathleen Summers, 2002. 1850 Census; Henderson Co. NC: Cagle, John, 68, born NC Jane, 65, born NC Elizabeth, 16, born NC (This is probably a granddaughter. Jacob had a daughter named Elizabeth but she was 6, not 16 in 1850. ) Dana [email protected] wrote: Dana, I have read a will was prorated in Henderson Co., NC in 1854, but have never seen a copy of it. If you have a copy would you send a transcribed copy to me.

Lee, This is getting complicated so I am sending email to both you and the list. Below is a snip from each of your messages regarding information collected about John Cagle and others: #1) I do not see John (1782-1854) as a son of Charles, Sr. and brother to Jacob and Charles, Jr. Look at the explanation for the John Cagle, brother to Susannah Cagle Hardwick and Catherine Cagle Horn. The John born 1782 was in Buncombe/Henderson Co. from 1806 until his death as proven by census and numerous deeds - so he could not have been the John Cagle (brother of girls above) on the census with them in 1810 and 1820 in Montgomery Co. #2) Is this information from John G.? Sure would like to know how he arrived at the conclusion that John b 1782 was an uncle of Leonard b 1798. Do you have any idea who he decided was the father of John b 1782 and/or the name of John's brother who was the father of Leonard and Henry. With everyone naming sons the same, we may never be able to prove who begat whom but keep trying! Thanks for this information. Are you hearing from John G. - I have not been able to get an answer from him in ages. Dana [email protected] wrote: Snip #1: " In addition to Valentine, this group included three young men, John Cagle, 1782-1854, Charles Cagle Jr., b. 1770, and Jacob Cagle, b. 1770s, who are probably nephews of Valentine, and sons of Charles Cagle, Sr., who died in 1801 in old Montgomery (present Stanly) Co, and eventually settled in what is now Winston Co., AL in the1830s. John, 1782-1854, is a brother of Charles and Jacob Cagle. Compare with the Estate Settlement of Charles Cagle, Sr in Montgomery (Stanly) Co., in 1803, in which his sons are named as Charles, Jacob, John, Leonard, and George. "Among the early residents of Mecklenburg Co., NC were Conrad Hartwick and wife Susanna Cagle, daughter of Charles Cagle Sr; the Hartwicks began to appear in Mecklenburg Co census records in 1790 and by 1810 were joined by John Cagle, who is now known to have been Susanna's younger brother. Another daughter of Charles Cagle Sr was Catherine "Kitty" Cagle, who married Elias Horn, and appeared in the 1800 and 1810 c! ensus in nearby Montgomery Co., NC. At the time of the 1820 census, the Hartwicks, Horns and John Cagle were all absent from the census records, either having been missed by the Census taker, or having been residents of Montgomery Co., NC, for which the 1820 census has been destroyed. However, the death of Elias Horn, and his appearance in Probate Records in Mecklenburg Co in 1822 provides the clue for the identification of John Cagle. Elias Horn's will, found in Mecklenburg County Will Book D, p.81, which is summarized, clearly shows that he was the brother in law ." ------------------------------------------------ Snip #2: "By 1830, they were joined in the census records by John's son, William Cagle, 1806-1885, who appears as a head of household for the first time. Leonard, 1798-1854, and Henry c.1803-Aft 1880, were nephews of John. Leonard eventually moved into what is now Transylvania (then part of old Buncombe), and Henry moved northward into that part of the county which remained as Buncombe, after the boundary changes. "