I don't believe anyone can answer your questions with any certainty, since it has yet to be detmined who the parents are of John Cagle, nor do we know the names of Lucy's parents. Please let me know if you develope something. Lee Cagle Okla City -- Kimberly Ann Spangrude <kimspangrude@mac.com> wrote: John and Lucy Cagle were my 4X Great Grandparents (on my maternal side) through their son Henry Cagle and his wife Catherine Holder. My question is: why did they go to South Carolina and then later come back to North Carolina? Were there other Cagles there or were Lucy's family members there? Kim On Jun 25, 2007, at 12:30 PM, Lee Cagle wrote: Descendants of John Cagle Generation No. 1 1. JOHN1 CAGLE was born Bet. 1770 - 1779 in Moore Co., NC, and died 1815 in Burke Co., NC. He married LUCY UNKNOWN Abt. 1794 in Burke Co., NC. She was born 1770, and died 1823 in Burke Co., NC. More About JOHN CAGLE: Census: 1810, Mecklenburg Co., NC (2101-2021) pg. 046 More About LUCY UNKNOWN: Census: 1820, Burke Co., NC widow of John Cagle. More About JOHN CAGLE and LUCY UNKNOWN: Marriage: Abt. 1794, Burke Co., NC Children of JOHN CAGLE and LUCY UNKNOWN are: i. MILLIE2 CAGLE, b. Abt. 1796, Lancaster Co., SC; m. NATHAN AUSTIN, 31 Oct 1816, Burke Co., NC; b. Burke Co., NC. Marriage Notes for MILLIE CAGLE and NATHAN AUSTIN: Date of bond: 31 Oct 1816; Bondsman: Moses Bently; Witness: Phillip Austin. More About NATHAN AUSTIN and MILLIE CAGLE: Marriage: 31 Oct 1816, Burke Co., NC ii. HENRY W SR CAGLE, b. 1798, Landcaster Co., SC; d. Aft. 1870, Jonathan Creek, Haywood, NC; m. CATHERINE C HOLDER, 1824, Burke Co., NC; b. 1804, Burke Co., NC; d. Aft. 1879, Jonathan Creek, Haywood, NC. More About HENRY W SR CAGLE: Census: 1810, Burke Co., NC More About HENRY CAGLE and CATHERINE HOLDER: Marriage: 1824, Burke Co., NC iii. ELIZABETH CAGLE, b. 1800, Moore Co., NC; m. (1) PETER LOWKENORE; m. (2) PETER MURTON, 14 May 1850, Burke Co., NC. Marriage Notes for ELIZABETH CAGLE and PETER MURTON: Groom: Peter Murton Bride: E Cagle Bond Date: 14 May 1850 Bond #: 000131584 Level Info: North Carolina Marriage Bonds, 1741-1868 ImageNum: 001230 County: Rowan Record #: 03 047 Bondsman: Henry Oliver Witness: H Riley More About PETER MURTON and ELIZABETH CAGLE: Marriage: 14 May 1850, Burke Co., NC iv. JOHN CAGLE, b. 1802, Moore Co., NC; d. Bet. 1875 - 1880, Jonathan Creek, Haywood, NC; m. (1) RACHEL FOX, 14 Oct 1828, Burke (now Alexander) Co., NC; b. 1804, Burke Co., NC; d. Bef. 1869, Haywood Co., NC; m. (2) ANNE CATHERINE HOLCOMBE, 08 Nov 1869, Haywood Co., NC; b. 1836, South Carolina; d. 1892, Waynesville, Haywood, NC. More About JOHN CAGLE: Burial: Bet. 1875 - 1880, Jonathan's Creek, Haywood Co., NC Census: 1870, Haywood Co., NC w/Catherine & 2 children. More About RACHEL FOX: Burial: Bef. 1869, Jonathan's Creek, Haywood Co., NC Marriage Notes for JOHN CAGLE and RACHEL FOX: The following appears in Marriage Bonds 1741-1868, Burke County, NC Bond Date: 14 Oct 1828, County: Burke; Record # o1 038; Bondsman: Hugh Fox & Henry Kagle; Witness: A. Payne; Bond #000005714. Burke County, North Caolina (I am sure this is ours) Groom: Johathan Kagale Bride: Rachal Fox Bond Date: 14 Oct 1828 Bond #: 000005714 Level Info: North Carolina Marriage Bonds, 1741-1868 ImageNum: 002715 County: Burke Record #: 01 038 Bondsman: Hugh Fox; Henry Kagle Witness: A. More About JOHN CAGLE and RACHEL FOX: Marriage: 14 Oct 1828, Burke (now Alexander) Co., NC More About ANNE CATHERINE HOLCOMBE: Burial: 1892, Waynesville Cem., Haywood Co., NC Marriage Notes for JOHN CAGLE and ANNE HOLCOMBE: Bond #00065028, Record #01 005, Witness: W. C. Brown, R.D., 8 Nov 1869, performed by J. H. Moody, JP, 8 Nov 1869. More About JOHN CAGLE and ANNE HOLCOMBE: Marriage: 08 Nov 1869, Haywood Co., NC v. CATHARINE CAGLE, b. Abt. 1804, Burke Co., NC; m. JOHN HEFNAR, 19 Apr 1829, Burke Co., NC. Marriage Notes for CATHARINE CAGLE and JOHN HEFNAR: Groom: John Hefnar Bride: Catharina Kegle Bond Date: 19 Apr 1829 Bond #: 000073094 Level Info: North Carolina Marriage Bonds, 1741-1868 ImageNum: 004421 County: Lincoln Record #: 01 059 Bondsman: Jacob Hefnar Witness: Fr Hoke Groom: Easaw M Crowell Bride: Catherin Cagle Bond Date: 19 Mar 1829 Bond #: 000080950 Level Info: North Carolina Marriage Bonds, 1741-1868 ImageNum: 001230 County: Mecklenburg Record #: 01 061 Bondsman: Samul Yandle More About JOHN HEFNAR and CATHARINE CAGLE: Marriage: 19 Apr 1829, Burke Co., NC vi. REBECCA CAGLE, b. Abt. 1806, Burke Co., NC. vii. JACOB CAGLE, b. Abt. 1815, Burke Co., NC; m. (1) MARY UNKNOWN; b. 1808, Virginia; m. (2) ALAFAIR PARKER, 20 May 1837, Haywood Co., NC; b. 1816, North Carolina. More About JACOB CAGLE: Census: 07 Sep 1850, Buffalo, Pike, MO w/Mary & 3 children More About JACOB CAGLE and ALAFAIR PARKER: Marriage: 20 May 1837, Haywood Co., NC Lee Cagle Okla City -- "Carole Cook" <carolescoaching@mstarmetro.net> wrote: Lee, The following is what you give on John Cagle at Ancestry World Tree Project: Cagle-Carter-Jackson-James-Jinks-Archer Genealogy Database on Ancestry.com. I am hoping you have more details and perhaps further details on John and Lucy and their descendants: Child of Karl Wilhelm CAGLE is: + 23 i. John CAGLE was born BET 1770 AND 1779 in Moore Co., NC, and died 1815 in Burke Co., NC. 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