Earl, Sorry, I saw this message last week and didn't find it again until now. Henry Sr. apparently married Caterina Seitz as you stated. However, in his will, Henry mentions his daughter in law, Caterina Cockman. It is thought by some that this is meant to mean a step daughter which would suggest that Caterina Seitz may have married a Cockman before she married Henry. However, I guess the daughter in law could be an adopted daughter. Those with Cockman connections may have a better handle on this. David, 1728-ca1784, was also married to a Catherine but I don't know her last name. David ----- Original Message ----- From: <ecagle1@bellsouth.net> To: <cagle@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 10:04 PM Subject: Re: [CAGLE] Southeast Missouri Cagle's > >> David, while I appreciate your detailed information on children and heirs >> of John "D", Henry and Charles, I don't fully understand the "Henry who >> married a Cochman not David,etc." part of your statement. Also, >> regarding heirs, the Henry, Sr. you cited stated in his will that his >> wife,Caterana (Seitz) would have an inheritance. Just trying to clarify >> the good information you have provided. Thanks for your efforts, Earl L. >> Cagle, Sr. >> From: "David Cagle" <dcagle1@charter.net> >> Date: 2007/06/24 Sun PM 08:59:33 EDT >> To: <cagle@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: Re: [CAGLE] Southeast Missouri Cagle's >> >> Micah, >> Here are the children an heirs of John "Dutchman", Henry and Charles >> Cagle. >> Our David Cagle did not leave a will or an estate settlement that I am >> aware >> of. Please note that it was probably Hnery who married a Cockman, not >> David. His wife was Catherine something or other. I have not been able >> to >> find out. >> David >> >> John "Dutchman" Cagle, 1799, Will, Moore Co., NC >> >> George, b. 1760's >> >> Jacob, b. ca 1766 >> >> Henry, b. ca 1770 >> >> Elizabeth Gilmore >> >> Mary Melton >> >> John, b. 1780's >> >> William, b. 1788 >> >> Susanna >> >> Dorety >> >> Margaret >> >> >> >> Henry Cagle, Sr., 1802 Will, Moore Co., NC >> >> William, b. 1754 >> >> Christian, b. 1760's >> >> Henry, b. 1770's >> >> Peter, b. 1775 >> >> John, b. 1770's >> >> Jacob, b. 1770's >> >> George, b. 1782 >> >> Martin, b. 1780's >> >> Caterana Cockman >> >> Elizabeth Hubbard >> >> Mary Auman >> >> >> >> Charles Cagle, Sr., d. 1801, Montgomery Co., NC >> >> >From 1803 Court document, Children were: >> >> Leonard (Administrator of estate) >> >> Jacob >> >> Charles >> >> John >> >> George, minor >> >> Glory, minor >> >> Margaret, minor >> >> Susanna Hardwick >> >> Betsy Cagle, m George Cagle >> >> Molly Tucker >> >> Kitty Horn <snip>

David, I just wanted to let you know that I tied up the mystery of John Cagle (possible son of George and Malinda) finally! I've devoted the past forty eight hours minus sleeptime to finding more info on my John Cagle. The conclusion is that John Cagle (1900 census, listed with wife "Elibyre") is the first son of George and Malinda Cagle. Here's how it finally worked out. I found a John C. Cagle in the Missouri 1910-1956 Death Index online for New Madrid, Missouri. My suspicion was that if there was a death certificate, he had to be there because I traced him with wife Eliza right next to William (his second son) in the 1910 Census and then found no record for him in the 1920 census. On the death certificate, his birthdate is completely wrong, but someone stated that his father was George Cagle and his mother was Malinda. Kentucky is stated as George's birthplace, but this was more likely an error like the birthdate. The reason for death is stated as pneumonia. Date of death is 2-23-1912. He is widowed at the time and late wife Eliza died on 11-9-1911. I traced the 1910 census in New Madrid completely through for the area he lived in at the time and found no other John Cagles. From this, I believe we have our proof. John Cagle married a Sarah (b. in Missouri) sometime before 1880 (due to 1880 census in Fannin Co. TX). He had a daughter Mary (age 4), a son George (b. 1878-79) and then had more children between that time and 1900. The 1890 census is of course non-existent so there seems to be no record of him for a good twenty years. Now, the question is who is William's (my gg grandfather) mother? I have requested a copy of his death certificate. It is unfortunately not viewable online, there's only an abstract. I'll know more then. I am disregarding for the time being that Emily J. Derossett was John's first wife. I believe this was incorrect information based on the fact that she was linked to a different John Cagle living in Independence, Dunklin, Missouri in 1880 (shown married to Emma J.) Another family member had given me this info. If I find more, I'll let you know. Thanks for encouraging me to stay on the track of proving my John Cagle was in fact the son of George and Malinda. I would have probably given up otherwise. --Micah R. Allen-- David Cagle <dcagle1@charter.net> wrote: Earl, Sorry, I saw this message last week and didn't find it again until now. Henry Sr. apparently married Caterina Seitz as you stated. However, in his will, Henry mentions his daughter in law, Caterina Cockman. It is thought by some that this is meant to mean a step daughter which would suggest that Caterina Seitz may have married a Cockman before she married Henry. However, I guess the daughter in law could be an adopted daughter. Those with Cockman connections may have a better handle on this. David, 1728-ca1784, was also married to a Catherine but I don't know her last name. David ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 10:04 PM Subject: Re: [CAGLE] Southeast Missouri Cagle's > >> David, while I appreciate your detailed information on children and heirs >> of John "D", Henry and Charles, I don't fully understand the "Henry who >> married a Cochman not David,etc." part of your statement. Also, >> regarding heirs, the Henry, Sr. you cited stated in his will that his >> wife,Caterana (Seitz) would have an inheritance. Just trying to clarify >> the good information you have provided. Thanks for your efforts, Earl L. >> Cagle, Sr. >> From: "David Cagle" >> Date: 2007/06/24 Sun PM 08:59:33 EDT >> To: >> Subject: Re: [CAGLE] Southeast Missouri Cagle's >> >> Micah, >> Here are the children an heirs of John "Dutchman", Henry and Charles >> Cagle. >> Our David Cagle did not leave a will or an estate settlement that I am >> aware >> of. Please note that it was probably Hnery who married a Cockman, not >> David. His wife was Catherine something or other. I have not been able >> to >> find out. >> David >> >> John "Dutchman" Cagle, 1799, Will, Moore Co., NC >> >> George, b. 1760's >> >> Jacob, b. ca 1766 >> >> Henry, b. ca 1770 >> >> Elizabeth Gilmore >> >> Mary Melton >> >> John, b. 1780's >> >> William, b. 1788 >> >> Susanna >> >> Dorety >> >> Margaret >> >> >> >> Henry Cagle, Sr., 1802 Will, Moore Co., NC >> >> William, b. 1754 >> >> Christian, b. 1760's >> >> Henry, b. 1770's >> >> Peter, b. 1775 >> >> John, b. 1770's >> >> Jacob, b. 1770's >> >> George, b. 1782 >> >> Martin, b. 1780's >> >> Caterana Cockman >> >> Elizabeth Hubbard >> >> Mary Auman >> >> >> >> Charles Cagle, Sr., d. 1801, Montgomery Co., NC >> >> >From 1803 Court document, Children were: >> >> Leonard (Administrator of estate) >> >> Jacob >> >> Charles >> >> John >> >> George, minor >> >> Glory, minor >> >> Margaret, minor >> >> Susanna Hardwick >> >> Betsy Cagle, m George Cagle >> >> Molly Tucker >> >> Kitty Horn ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Fussy? 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