John Cagle and Eliza J. were married in 1894, therefore Sarah probably died between 1887 and 1894. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Micah Allen" <silvertrill@yahoo.com> To: <cagle@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [CAGLE] Southeast Missouri Cagle's > David, > > I just wanted to let you know that I tied up the mystery of John Cagle > (possible son of George and Malinda) finally! I've devoted the past forty > eight hours minus sleeptime to finding more info on my John Cagle. The > conclusion is that John Cagle (1900 census, listed with wife "Elibyre") is > the first son of George and Malinda Cagle. Here's how it finally worked > out. > > I found a John C. Cagle in the Missouri 1910-1956 Death Index online for > New Madrid, Missouri. My suspicion was that if there was a death > certificate, he had to be there because I traced him with wife Eliza right > next to William (his second son) in the 1910 Census and then found no > record for him in the 1920 census. On the death certificate, his birthdate > is completely wrong, but someone stated that his father was George Cagle > and his mother was Malinda. Kentucky is stated as George's birthplace, but > this was more likely an error like the birthdate. The reason for death is > stated as pneumonia. Date of death is 2-23-1912. He is widowed at the time > and late wife Eliza died on 11-9-1911. > > I traced the 1910 census in New Madrid completely through for the area he > lived in at the time and found no other John Cagles. From this, I believe > we have our proof. John Cagle married a Sarah (b. in Missouri) sometime > before 1880 (due to 1880 census in Fannin Co. TX). He had a daughter Mary > (age 4), a son George (b. 1878-79) and then had more children between that > time and 1900. The 1890 census is of course non-existent so there seems to > be no record of him for a good twenty years. Now, the question is who is > William's (my gg grandfather) mother? I have requested a copy of his death > certificate. It is unfortunately not viewable online, there's only an > abstract. I'll know more then. I am disregarding for the time being that > Emily J. Derossett was John's first wife. I believe this was incorrect > information based on the fact that she was linked to a different John > Cagle living in Independence, Dunklin, Missouri in 1880 (shown married to > Emma J.) Another family member had > given me this info. If I find more, I'll let you know. > > Thanks for encouraging me to stay on the track of proving my John Cagle > was in fact the son of George and Malinda. I would have probably given up > otherwise. > > --Micah R. Allen-- > > David Cagle <dcagle1@charter.net> wrote: Earl, > Sorry, I saw this message last week and didn't find it again until now. > > Henry Sr. apparently married Caterina Seitz as you stated. However, in > his > will, Henry mentions his daughter in law, Caterina Cockman. It is thought > by some that this is meant to mean a step daughter which would suggest > that > Caterina Seitz may have married a Cockman before she married Henry. > However, I guess the daughter in law could be an adopted daughter. Those > with Cockman connections may have a better handle on this. > > David, 1728-ca1784, was also married to a Catherine but I don't know her > last name. > > David > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 10:04 PM > Subject: Re: [CAGLE] Southeast Missouri Cagle's > > >> >>> David, while I appreciate your detailed information on children and >>> heirs >>> of John "D", Henry and Charles, I don't fully understand the "Henry who >>> married a Cochman not David,etc." part of your statement. Also, >>> regarding heirs, the Henry, Sr. you cited stated in his will that his >>> wife,Caterana (Seitz) would have an inheritance. Just trying to >>> clarify >>> the good information you have provided. Thanks for your efforts, Earl >>> L. >>> Cagle, Sr. >>> From: "David Cagle" >>> Date: 2007/06/24 Sun PM 08:59:33 EDT >>> To: >>> Subject: Re: [CAGLE] Southeast Missouri Cagle's >>> >>> Micah, >>> Here are the children an heirs of John "Dutchman", Henry and Charles >>> Cagle. >>> Our David Cagle did not leave a will or an estate settlement that I am >>> aware >>> of. Please note that it was probably Hnery who married a Cockman, not >>> David. His wife was Catherine something or other. I have not been able >>> to >>> find out. >>> David >>> >>> John "Dutchman" Cagle, 1799, Will, Moore Co., NC >>> >>> George, b. 1760's >>> >>> Jacob, b. ca 1766 >>> >>> Henry, b. ca 1770 >>> >>> Elizabeth Gilmore >>> >>> Mary Melton >>> >>> John, b. 1780's >>> >>> William, b. 1788 >>> >>> Susanna >>> >>> Dorety >>> >>> Margaret >>> >>> >>> >>> Henry Cagle, Sr., 1802 Will, Moore Co., NC >>> >>> William, b. 1754 >>> >>> Christian, b. 1760's >>> >>> Henry, b. 1770's >>> >>> Peter, b. 1775 >>> >>> John, b. 1770's >>> >>> Jacob, b. 1770's >>> >>> George, b. 1782 >>> >>> Martin, b. 1780's >>> >>> Caterana Cockman >>> >>> Elizabeth Hubbard >>> >>> Mary Auman >>> >>> >>> >>> Charles Cagle, Sr., d. 1801, Montgomery Co., NC >>> >>> >From 1803 Court document, Children were: >>> >>> Leonard (Administrator of estate) >>> >>> Jacob >>> >>> Charles >>> >>> John >>> >>> George, minor >>> >>> Glory, minor >>> >>> Margaret, minor >>> >>> Susanna Hardwick >>> >>> Betsy Cagle, m George Cagle >>> >>> Molly Tucker >>> >>> Kitty Horn > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > Fussy? 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