Hi Jim and Debra and Cagle Group This is what I have found on your Andrew Jackson , did you know he was a twin ?? this is the family that I was putting census in for and I do have a error on a Charles but I think your John and Andrew are OK. To: the group , havn't finished putting in all the census on this family, you will see two Williams, William Carroll and a William S. , don't ask me why but this is correct. it is in the census records also. He is the second to the last child , Adam W. is the youngest son . Debbie said that Andrew's wife's name is Lucinda Ingle/Engle and they had a daughter names Litha Jane Cagle . So if anyone is looking for this couple. I think I saw someone looking for a Litha Jane. Decendents of John F. Cagle Generation No. 1 1. John F.5 Cagle (Valentine (Jr.)4, Valentine (Sr.)3, Johan Theobald "David" Kegel *2, (Leonhart Kegell ) Leonard *1) was born October 03, 1824 in Tennessee, and died 1898 in Lawrence County, Alabama. He married Vinny Stocks. Notes for John F. Cagle: 1850 Census Franklin County , Tennessee (page 69, NC , Book Vol 11, John G. Cagle's Book). Cagle, John 25 TN. Vinney 21 " Henry 1 " Artimessa 3 " (Notes: Valentine and John were perhaps the grandsons of Valetine Cagle b-1755-60 , John later moved to lawrence County, Alabama where he died in 1898 ). 1860 Jackson Co. AL. Paint Rock P.O. #230/230 Cagle, John 36 TN Farmer/$0/$200 Viney 31 " R. T. (F) 12 AL (this was Artimessa) A. J. (M) 9 " W.C. (M) 9 " Pleasant (M) 7 " Amanda 5 " John 2 " Notes: R.T. and Artimessa Cagle, Oldest Child of John ; 1850 census of Franklin col, TN gives her birth as TN. The twin sons were Andrew Jackson and Wm. Carroll Cagle, born 1851,. Later in 1880 Marion County, AL. and 1910 Wise Co., TX. 1866 Jackson , AL Special Alabama State Census ( After the Civil War, the State of Alabama conducted a special census in order to determine the lacrion of land-owners in each county. Those in Jackson Co. included three Cagles in R.4E, T.1S, in Beat #25 (Paint Rock Valley, N.E. Jackson): John and Valentine lived on their land in Jackson: Linzy (Lindsey probable was an absentee owner who lived in Adjoining Madison County: Cagle, John Males: 2-3-1 Females 1-2-1- " Valentine " 0-2-1- " 0-1-1 " Linzy " 4-0-2 " 1-0-1 (age brackets, left to right , were under 10, 10-20, over 20 1870 Giles, TN: 15th. Civil District; Lynnsville Station P.O. #62/62 Cagle, John 46 TN Farm Laborer/$250 Viney 43 " keeping house Artimessy 23 AL Pleasent 17 " Farm Laborer Amanda 13 " John 11 " Catherine 9 " William S. 5 TN Allen W. 3 AL Notes: See John 1824-1898, was the son of Valentine Cagle Jr. 1786-1850s: See John in 1850 Franklin Co. TN., 1860 Jackson Co. AL., also note John in 1880 Lawrence Co. AL. John is buried near Mt. Hope, Lawrence Co. Al. 1880 Lawrence, AL. Beat #5, Wolf Spring 12 170 24 23 Cagle, John 50 TN Martha 19 AL William 16 " Allen 11 " Smith, Angaline 23 " (dau. of John ) " Walter 2 " (g-son) Children of John Cagle and Vinny Stocks are: 2 i. Artimessa T.6 Cagle, born 1847 in Frankline County, Tennessee. 3 ii. Henry Cagle, born 1849 in Frankline County, Tennessee. + 4 iii. William Carroll (twin) Cagle, born March 1851; died 1923. + 5 iv. Andrew Jackson (twin) Cagle, born March 1851 in Alabama. 6 v. Pleasant F. Cagle, born 1854. 7 vi. Amanda Cagle, born 1855. 8 vii. John Cagle, born 1858. 9 viii. Catherine Cagle, born 1861. 10 ix. William S. Cagle, born March 1865. 11 x. Allen W. Cagle, born August 1867. Generation No. 2 4. William Carroll (twin)6 Cagle (John F.5, Valentine (Jr.)4, Valentine (Sr.)3, Johan Theobald "David" Kegel *2, (Leonhart Kegell ) Leonard *1) was born March 1851, and died 1923. He married Lavina Cagle, daughter of Charles Cagle and Leannah Cagle. Notes for William Carroll (twin) Cagle: 1880 Maion County, Ala Beat #11 T.10/R.12 Cagle, Carrel 25* AL (*Actually 29, born March 1851 Vina 26 " (Lavina ) d/o Charles Cagle, and Annie Elizabeth Staggs) George W. 8 " (they were first cousins) Genetta 5 " Charles 2 " Loyed H. 3/12 " Carrel 27 was Wm. Carroll Cagle, 1851-1923, the twin brother of Andrew Jackson Cagle . He later lived near Andrew in 1900 Lawarence Co. Al. and 1910 Wise Co. Texas. then returned to Al, and is buried in Lawrence County,. His wife, Lavina, was the daughter of Annie Cagle, age 64, of Maion County, Ala. living with her younger son Charlie and wife Annie. ( Annie Elizabeth Staggs) 1900 Lawrence, AL: Beat #6, Mt. Hope 34 75 6 52 Cagle, William C. 49 IL Mar. 1852* (*actually b. 1851) Luvina 47 " Jun. 1856 (Lavina was her name) William C. 22 AL Oct. 1877 Loyd H. 20 " Feb. 1880 John M. 16 " Oct. 1883 Tilitha A. 13 " Jun 1886 Martin L. 10 " Sep. 1889 Thomas M. 8 " Apr. 1892 *1910 census gives Il; 1860 & 1880 gives AL. 1910 Wise County, Texas. census page # 258-787-148 Cagle, William C. 58 IL. Vina 58 IL. Wife Thomas 18 Ala Son Notes: William Carroll Cagle, 1851-1923, of Al, TX William Carroll Cagle, who had lived in Lawrence Co., Ala in 1900, moved to Texas prior to 1910, fro health reason, and settled near Rhome, Wise Co., in the Ft. Worth area. Accompanying him were some of his married sons, and younger sons, Martin Luther Cagle, 1889-1984, and Thomas, b. 1892. Also moving to TX at the same time was Wm. Carroll's twin brother, Andrew Jackson "Jack" Cagle, who had appeared as A.J. Cagle , in 1900 Lawrence Co., ALA. While in Texas, these families farmed, and also hauled wheat to the thresher for large famers. However, dry weather and sand storms hampered their efforts, and they decided to return to Ala. Upon returning, they settled near Mt. Hope, Lawrence Col, ALA, and founded large families which are still centered in N.W. Alabama. Children of William Cagle and Lavina Cagle are: 12 i. William C.7 Cagle, born October 1877. 13 ii. Loyd H. Cagle, born February 1880. 14 iii. John M. Cagle, born October 1883. 15 iv. Tilitha A. Cagle, born June 1886. 16 v. Martin Luther Cagle, born September 1889; died August 26, 1984 in Lawrence County, Alabama. He married Minnie Malinda Smith. 17 vi. Thomas M. Cagle, born April 1892. 5. Andrew Jackson (twin)6 Cagle (John F.5, Valentine (Jr.)4, Valentine (Sr.)3, Johan Theobald "David" Kegel *2, (Leonhart Kegell ) Leonard *1) was born March 1851 in Alabama. He married Lucindia. Notes for Andrew Jackson (twin) Cagle: 1880 Marion, AL; Beat # 11 T.10/R.12 Cagle, Andrew 25* AL *Actually 29; Mar. 1851) Lousinda 23 " James F. 6 " Peter N. 5 " John W. 1 " Notes: (Andrew was s/o John 1824-1898, brother of Easter, Telitha, & Annie Cagle. See 1900 Lawrence Co. AL. and 1910 Wise, TX.) 1900 Lawrence , AL: Beat #6, Mt. Hope 34 75 6 52 Cagle, A. J. 48 AL Mar. 1852* (Actually b. 1851) Lucindia 43 " Jul. 1856 John W. 21 " Mar. 1879 Easter 18 " Jul. 1881 Delestra 14 " May 1886 Bob 10 " Apr. 1890 Andrew 8 " Nov. 1891 Ida 6 " Apr. 1894 Walter 3 " Mar. 1897 Notes; Andrew Jackson Cagle was s/o John, 1824-1898, of 1880 Lawarence. Lived in Marion Co. in 1880. Lived in Texas for a period after 1900; was in Wise co., TX in 1910 Census . ) 1910 Wise Co. Texas: census page # 257-104-148 Cagle, Andrew J. 59 Ala Lucindy E. 52 " Wife Robert W. 21 " Son Andrew J. 18 " " Ida 16 " Dau Walter 13 " Son Notes: 1880 Marion County, Alabama. Twin brother to William Carroll Cagle , 1910 Wise Co.) Children of Andrew Cagle and Lucindia are: 18 i. John W.7 Cagle, born March 1879. 19 ii. Easter Cagle, born July 1881. 20 iii. Delestra Cagle, born May 1886. 21 iv. Bob Cagle, born April 1890. (Robert) 22 v. Andrew Cagle, born November 1891. 23 vi. Ida Cagle, born April 1894. 24 vii. Walter Cagle, born March 1897.