I'am glad you would like to be in are group, just e-mail Earl he will put you on the Cagle list, and everyone who sends a Question or a answer send it to CAGLE-L@rootsweb.com. I do most of my work from some of the books I have or information I get off the internet and from are Cagle group and Cagle forum. I babysit grandchildren. Forgot to tell you I live in California. If you want any info on Valentines brothers let me know I have alot of info on George but not alot on Jacob 1755, I also have more census to add to your John's children just havn't gotten it all in yet. unless you already have it.?? Hope you have a good family reunion , have fun!! Descendants of John Ruben Cagle Generation No. 1 1. John Ruben4 Cagle (Valentine (Sr.)3, Johan Theobald "David" Kegel *2, (Leonhart Kegell ) Leonard *1) was born 1798 in North Carolina/South Carolina, and died 1863 in Winston County, Alabama. He married Sarah J. Lovett Abt. 1820. Notes for John Ruben Cagle: 1810 Warren Co. TN. 1830 Marion C. TN. (living South of Warren Co. and bordering on Jackson Co. AL.) 1840 Walker Co. AL. Cagle, John 2110001 -010101 p.300 (1850 Winston Co. AL) 1850 Winston Co. AL. #48 Cagle, John 51 SC Sarah 48 GA Matilda 28 TN Harman 22 " Emeline 19 " Isam 18 " Albert 15 AL Ellis 13 " Enoch 9 " Ephram 7 " Minerva 4 " 1860 Census Winston County, Al. #228/228 Cagle, John 63 SC Farmer 3400/2500 Sarah J. 58 GA Matilda 39 TN Emeline 27 " Ephraim 17 " Manerva 14 " John was Batized as a infant at St. John's Lutheran Church , Cabarrus Co., NC. Moved to Warren Co., TN with Valentine in 1810-12; to AL. in late 1830s. Children of John Cagle and Sarah Lovett are: 2 i. Malinda5 Cagle, born 1822 in Tennessee; died 1863 in Winston County, Alabama. + 3 ii. Hiram Cagle, born 1828 in Tennessee; died 1896 in Winston County, Alabama. 4 iii. Emaline Cagle, born 1830 in Tennessee; died 1912 in Winston County, Alabama. She married James Riley "Riley" Cagle. + 5 iv. Isaac Cagle, born 1832 in Tennessee; died 1906. 6 v. Albert S. Cagle, born 1836. He married Almira. 7 vi. Aleas Cagle, born 1837. He married Elizabeth. 8 vii. Ellis Cagle, born 1837. 9 viii. Enoch Cagle, born 1841 in Winston County, Alabama; died 1864 in Winston County, Alabama. He married Mary J.. + 10 ix. Ephraim Cagle, born September 1842 in Winston County, Alabama. 11 x. Minerva Cagle, born 1846 in Winston County, Alabama; died 1863 in Winston County, Alabama. Generation No. 2 3. Hiram5 Cagle (John Ruben4, Valentine (Sr.)3, Johan Theobald "David" Kegel *2, (Leonhart Kegell ) Leonard *1) was born 1828 in Tennessee, and died 1896 in Winston County, Alabama. He married Anna. Notes for Hiram Cagle: 1860 Winston Co., AL #220/220 Cagle, Hiram 30 TN Farmer Anna 27 AL Arminda 8 " Cornelius 8 " James D. 6 " Sylvester 4 " Sarah A. 2 " 1870 Winston Co. AL (T.11/R.10/Houston P.O./ #109/109 Cagle, Hiram 42 TN Farmer 100/200 Anna 38 MS House keeper Cansada 17 AL In School Silvester 14 " " " Sarah A. 12 " " " Franklin 12* " (Franklin was probably 10 or younger, was not in 1860 census) Albert 6 " William 1 " 1880 Winston Co. AL. Township 10, Range 9 Household # 8 Cagle, Hiram 52 SC SC SC Farmer Anna 48 AL SC AL Keepinghouse Sylvester 23 AL SC AL Farm Labor Sarah A. 20 " " " Franklin 19 " " " " " Albert 17 " " " " " Isaac 14 " " " " " John 10 " " " " " Andrew 5 " " " Children of Hiram Cagle and Anna are: 12 i. Cansada6 Cagle, born 1853. 13 ii. Sylvester Cagle, born 1856. 14 iii. Sarah A. Cagle, born 1858. 15 iv. Franklin Cagle, born 1861. 16 v. Albert Cagle, born 1864. 17 vi. William Cagle, born 1869. 18 vii. Isaac Cagle, born 1866. 19 viii. John Cagle, born 1870. 20 ix. Andrew Cagle, born 1875. 5. Isaac5 Cagle (John Ruben4, Valentine (Sr.)3, Johan Theobald "David" Kegel *2, (Leonhart Kegell ) Leonard *1) was born 1832 in Tennessee, and died 1906. He married Rebecca "Beckey". Notes for Isaac Cagle: 1850 Winston County Alabama 1860 Winston County, Alabama #233/233 Cagle, Isaac 27 TN Farmer Rebecca 27 AL Josephine 5 " James M. 3 " 1870 Walker Co. Alabama Township #12, Clear Creek Falls P.O. #1/1 Cagle, Isaac 37 TN Farmer $200/$300 Rebecca 37 AL House Keeping Lucinda 15 " James 14 " Nancy 12 " Adonia 10 " Mary 8 " John 4 " Louisa 2 " Notes; Isaac, 1832-1906, was s/o John Cagle, 1798-1863 of Winston County Alabama. Isaac appeared in Winston in 1850 and 1860, then moved to Walker. See also 1880, 1900, & 1910 Walker. (Prior to 1850 present Winston County was part of Walker County,.) 1880 Walker Co. Alabama Beat #4 23/275 17 14 Cagle, Isaac 47 TN Farmer Becky 47 AL M. Ally 19 " Daughter J. Martha 17 " " R. John 14 " Son Lucy 12 " Daughter (same as Louisa, probably Lucinda) Amon (?) 7 " Son (name was Duncan A. "Dunk")?? Notes: in the late 1800s, Beat #4 probably had a larger area than it does in modern Walker, due to subdivsion of townships. 1900 Walker Co. Alabama Cagle's Precinct (Bear #4) 60/139 10 44 Cagle, Isaac 67 TN Oct. 1832 Rebecca 67 AL Oct 1832 Allie 38 " Dec. 1861 1910 Walker Co. Alabama ??? Children of Isaac Cagle and Rebecca "Beckey" are: 21 i. Josephine Lucinda6 Cagle, born 1855. 22 ii. James Milton Cagle, born 1857. Notes for James Milton Cagle: 1900 Walker AL. Cagle's Precinct (Beat #4) 60/139 4 62 Cagle, Milton 43 AL Jan 1857 Nancy 39 " Feb. 1861 Rosie A. 20 " Nov 1879 Sarah A. 15 " Feb. 1885 Frederick H. 12 " Jul. 1887 George w. 10 " Mar 1890 John a. 7 " Jan 1893 James I. 4 " Sep. 1895 Rufus C. 1 " Jul. 1898 1910 Walker AL. Enumeration district #174 Beat #4) Cagle, James M. 53 AL (174/12 over 109) Nancy C. 49 " George W. 20 " John A. 17 " James I. 14 " Rufus I. 11 " Martha L. 8 " Jake 5 " Beckey 77 " (James Milton's mother Rebecca) 23 iii. Nancy Cagle, born 1858. 24 iv. Adonia Cagle, born 1860. 25 v. Mary Allie Cagle, born December 1861. 26 vi. John R. Cagle, born September 1866. 27 vii. Louisa "Lucy" Cagle, born 1868. 28 viii. Duncan A. "Dunk" Cagle, born June 1872 in Alabama. Notes for Duncan A. "Dunk" Cagle: In the 1880 Walker Co. Al. census they have his name as Amon(??) his middle name starts with a A. 10. Ephraim5 Cagle (John Ruben4, Valentine (Sr.)3, Johan Theobald "David" Kegel *2, (Leonhart Kegell ) Leonard *1) was born September 1842 in Winston County, Alabama. He married Lucy A.. Notes for Ephraim Cagle: 1870 Winston Co. AL. Cagle, Ephram 28 AL. Farmer 100/200 (T.10/R.9/Houston P,O, #76/76) Lusa (Lucy) 25 " House Keeper John 4 " Enoch 2 " 1880 Winston Co. AL. Township 10, Range 9 (Household #13) Cagle, Ephraim 37 AL SC SC Farmer Lucy A. 31 " AL AL Keepinghouse John C. 14 " " " Farm Labor Frances E. 7 " " " Eliza J. 4 " " " Ephraim N. 2 " " " Clara 7/12 " " " 1900 Winston Co. AL. Beat #1, Double Springs 62 154 11 96 Cagle, Ephrom 57 AL Sep. 1842 Lucinda 51 " Jun. 1849 Ephrom N. 22 " Jun. 1878 Henry A. 18 " Jun. 1882 Mary E. 15 " May 1885 George R. 10 " May 1890 Monroe A. 2 " Feb 1898 (Grandson ) 1910 Winston Co. AL. Enumeration district #134 134 5 114 Cagle, Ephraim 66 AL. Lucy 54 " Jack 20 " Elmer 12 " Children of Ephraim Cagle and Lucy A. are: 29 i. John C.6 Cagle, born February 1866 in Winston County, Alabama. 30 ii. Enoch Cagle, born 1868 in Winston County, Alabama. 31 iii. Frances E. Cagle, born 1873 in Winston County, Alabama. 32 iv. Eliza J. Cagle, born 1876 in Winston County, Alabama. 33 v. Ephraim N. Cagle, born June 1878 in Winston County, Alabama. 34 vi. Clara Cagle, born 1879 in Winston County, Alabama. 35 vii. Jack Cagle, born 1880 in Winston County, Alabama. 36 viii. Henry A. Cagle, born June 1882 in Winston County, Alabama. 37 ix. Mary E. Cagle, born May 1885 in Winston County, Alabama. 38 x. George R. Cagle, born March 1890 in Winston County, Alabama. Nancy Jane Tarzana CA. April Njbalmer@aol.com