HI Earl and List, we never have been able to link Pleas to the 1850 census in Tennesse, not yet anyway. I've kept it on file. Our Pleas' are just really a hart nut to crack. I tend to side with your opinion about the Indian Heritage, Earl, however the family has so many stories (hearsake I believe) that I am just pursuing every angle. Here is the story about Chief Charlie Monta Zoma Cagle.......for whatever it is worth: CHIEF CHARLIE MONTA ZOMA CAGEL FULL CHEROKEE BORN SOMETIME BETWEEN 1820-1830 According to the American Indian Council (?) there was a small band of Cherokee's that broke away from the large Cherokee nation. They settled in the states of Kansas, Missouri, Arkansas, Texas and later in Tennesee, Nebraska and Illinois. This was before the war between white man and the Cherokee Tribal Nation. Some, that broke away are listed by numbers on the Miller Rolls. Upon loosing the war the last of the Cherokee Indians that survived the Trail of Tears were forced onto the Cherokee Reservation, given numbers on rolls called the "Five Civilized Tribes". This took place in the years 1899-1906. The five civilized Tribes are also known as the Dawson Rolls (?). The small bands that broke away picked new Chiefs, traveling far away to keep out of the reach of the Military. They later took on the white mans ways. Such was Chief Charlie Monta Zoma Cagle. He settled with his family in Johnson County, Illinois, believed to be in Thebes or Buck (Thebes is in Alexander County) His wife was believed to be full Indian. They had four children: Sophie: died in 1930 with stomach cancer Joseph: nothing known about him Pleas Chapman: born 7/24/81 died 7/23/42 (this would be our grandfather) Buddy: born after Pleas, dates unknown. It was known that he died of Dopssy and Heart trouble. Buddy was a hell raiser in his youth. Him and Pleas would ride their horses down the street of town yelling and shooting out the street lights. This was before the town had sidewalks and used oil lamps. Pleas Sr. Cagle aka Chief Charlie lost his wife when his son Pleas was 6, that would have been in 1887. She had fixed a family reunion dinner. Everyone had just finished eating when she leaned forward, dying instantly with a heart attack. Pleas raised his children alone. He died in Johnson County, Illinois. Cause of death was during a tellible storm when a limb broke off from a tree, crashing into his chest. He was 61. His son Pleas would later die almost the same way. I don't quite believe all of the above, other that the family wrote it.. Our grandfather Pleas did die when he was poisining tree stumps for a company in Holland, MO. A tree hit him in the head and he died of a crushed skull. These are facts, we have funeral records and newspaper articles to proof it. Unfortunatley, the last of grandfather Pleas' children died last months......the last one of this generation. sandra b.