Earl and list, I agree, Earl with your comments about backing up files, I recently had a genealogy program crash and lost all my source notes and reference notes. I was able to restore, from backup disks, most names, but not the notes. They vanished totally. I am slowly replacing them from my paper files , but with well over 6700 names, it's a very slow task. In the second comment about the RootsWeb archives: I now have added the new RootsWeb freepages to my websites, I also have uploaded the gedcom of surnames to the WorldConnect program there. Yesterday we passed the 3 million mark of names entered. It's an excellent search engine for any surname entered. It connects all gedcoms in the program, and lists names for search and downloading information to anyone. I have discovered already several new contacts in my surnames, and especially the Cagle family. I highly reccommend it. It's very easy to navigate and retrieve information. The url there is: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi I am enjoying the use of unlimited space at RootsWeb, and hope many others on the list will use the WorldConnect project by uploading their gedcoms there. If you search there, my entries are under the database doyle1. If you want to exclude those from additional searches, as most have already seen them, just type in "skip database doyle1", and it will display only the rest of the submissions. Earl, they are on fast track to get online entries by webtv users also. The timeframe seems to be early in the coming year. Best wishes to all, Doyle ====..... LaMona & List, You bring up a good point about backing up files. Although this takes some time, a little money for disks, and effort it is well worth it. This is the url for all curent Rootsweb Mail lists. By giving everyone this address, you can search other surnames your researching. Just type in the surname i.e. Cagle, and it will take you to the page to search all the postings. You may have to spend some time until you come to the message your looking for. http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl Also be sure to bookmark this site for future use. Good Luck, Earl ====================================================== Family sites: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~doyle1