I was looking thur the some of the passenger list. There where some other ships that came in 1832 , if you look at them you will see that some of the names could be Cagle, they all had to wait to come over on the ships , sometimes two years who is to say that the family members didn't split up and come over on some of the other ship about the same time , I looked at 4 of them and they all looked like they could have had the Cagle names. also I looked at some to the surnames to see if I could match anyone three of the names are from the Baptisms Theobald Fuchs, Andreas Busch, and Johann Andreas Busching , the last two I think are the same person . Johann Andreas Busching was the one who Leonhart was his childs godparent. I will go back and look for one more Christian Schults who was the Minister. I have both the Loyal Judith copied and also the ship in 1737 . <A HREF="http://distantcousin.com/Links/ships/">http://distantcousin.com/Links /ships/</A> K??HL SS Pennland KAGELS Ship Teutonia KE?LEY Ship William Rathbone KAHL SS Westphalia Ship Pharsalia Star of the West SS Rhein KEGEL SS Silesia KEGLER Zurich KEHAL Ship Omega KEI?E Ship Northstar FUCHS SS Moravia SS Silesia Bark Johanna SS Main SS Neckar SS Donau Bark Johanna Barque Diana Steamer Saxonia SS Bamberg SS P.Caland Ship Admiral SS Oder BU??E Bark Johanna BUSCH SS Moravia SS Trave SS Ethiopia Ship Teutonia SS Mosel SS Elbe SS Elbe Ship O. Thyen Ship Admiral Steamer New York SS W.A. Scholten BUSCHING SS Rhein SS Elbe SS Rhein WAGNER Brig Phoenix Southampton SS General Werder SS Celtic SS Egypt Bark Jason Ship General Hamilton SS Switzerland SS Oder Bark Atlantic SS Rhaetia Ship Oder SS Herder SS Wisconsin Zurich Murdoch SS City of Brussels Ship Cynosure SS Westphalia Ship Rattler Bark Dyle SS Elbe SS Elbe SS Victoria SS Egypt Steamer Saxonia Ship Europa SS Bothnia SS Main SS Edam Cheshire Bark Mississippi SS St. Laurent SS W. A. Scholten SS Rhein Ship Elena SS Oder SS Donau WAGNOR SS W. A. Scholten W Nancy Jane Tarzana, CA April 1945 p.s. tell me what you think , Look at the ships that came in about the sametime as the Loyal Judith ,