Henry Cagle, 1760, Cumberland, NC died 1838 Hardin, TN Elizabeth Wagoner, July 1761, Berks, PA died TN ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Cagle" <dcagle1@charter.net> To: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>; <CAGLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 9:25 PM Subject: Re: [CAGLE] Anna Cagle from North Carolina (about 1801) > Anna's parents were Henry Cagle, Sr and Maria Elizabeth Wagoner. > > Can someone put some places, dates, parents, etc, with these names? > Thanks, > David > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> > To: <CAGLE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 4:50 PM > Subject: Re: [CAGLE] Anna Cagle from North Carolina (about 1801) > > >> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing >> list. >> >> Author: FLMD60 >> Surnames: >> Classification: queries >> >> Message Board URL: >> >> http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cagle/617.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx >> >> Message Board Post: >> >> Anna's parents were Henry Cagle, Sr and Maria Elizabeth Wagoner. >> >> Important Note: >> The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If >> you >> would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL >> link >> above and respond on the board. >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.5/826 - Release Date: >> 5/31/2007 >> 4:51 PM >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: FLMD60 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cagle/617.1.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have so many John and Henry Cagles listed. [The family must have loved those names] None are matching up exactly with your dates but that doesn't mean they are not the same. The few records back then had errors, as you know. Email me direct or send me a phone number and we can talk. Frances we71357@bellsouth.net Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: KimSpangrude Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cagle/617.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Do you know if this family is related to John Cagle born 1770 in Moore, North Carolina, married to Lucy ? also born app. 1770, and son Henry Cagle born 1798 married to Catherine ? born 1804? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: FLMD60 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cagle/617.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Anna's parents were Henry Cagle, Sr and Maria Elizabeth Wagoner. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Anna's parents were Henry Cagle, Sr and Maria Elizabeth Wagoner. Can someone put some places, dates, parents, etc, with these names? Thanks, David ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <CAGLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [CAGLE] Anna Cagle from North Carolina (about 1801) > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: FLMD60 > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cagle/617.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Anna's parents were Henry Cagle, Sr and Maria Elizabeth Wagoner. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.5/826 - Release Date: 5/31/2007 > 4:51 PM > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: KimSpangrude Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cagle/617.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Who were Anna Cagle's parents? And, who were her siblings? Was she born in Moore, North Carolina? Kim Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: deedeeday Surnames: Cagle, Prince, Criscoe, Wolff, Luker, Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cagle/617.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Anna Cagle from North Carolina was my ggggrandmother. I have alot of her information. I have been told that my grandmother's grandmother was a full blooded Indian. Any help would be appreciated. Jo Anne Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: deedeeday Surnames: Cagle, Prince, Criscoe, Wolff, Luker, Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cagle/617.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Anna Cagle from North Carolina was my ggggrandmother. I have alot of her information. I have been told that my grandmother's grandmother was a full blooded Indian. Any help would be appreciated. Jo Anne Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rcagle1 Surnames: Cagle , Whitfield Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cagle/771.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My husband, Richard Cagle, is the grandson of Walter J. Cagle. His first wife was named Lavinia, and her maiden name was Whitfield. We had numerous papers and documents dating back to 1848. Most of those have been donated to the Center for American History at the University of Texas. It seems to me that I recall the "Young" name from something, but I am not sure. If you can be more specific, I will be happy to answer any questions I can. Bill Cagle Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tlatchley1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.cagle/1252/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I would like to find out about Jimmy Joe Cagle, I was told that he died in 1981 in Alabama. His parents where William Henry & Rena Turner Cagle. any info would be appreciated. Lisa Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Carole, Thank you for your very thorough and attentive email. I sometimes get frustrated with responses and the lack of detail, but your email was a great example of caring enough to give a good response. That is too bad about the John C. Cagle book; I live in Salt Lake City, and if you would like, I can go to the FHL and copy the book (take photos with my digital camera). As far as Lucy's place of birth, I looked back at my sources and discovered that a secondary source, another researcher, gave me the info that the NC 1850 census gives her place of birth as Moore, NC; when I went to ancestry.com, I noticed that the Lucy who was in the census of 1850 was only 15, and she was a child of George and Maranda. So that information is not correct, and I appreciate you bringing it to my attention. If it would not be too much trouble, I would love to have an email copy of the deeds. I will try to visit the FHL this week or weekend; let me know if there is anything specific other than the book, that you would like me to check on. Kim On May 20, 2007, at 9:52 PM, Carole Cook wrote: Kimberly and David, A few years ago I saw John G. Cagle's books at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City. As a result I contacted John G. Cagle and asked if he had any more copies of The Cagle Family in the South to 1850: North Carolina. He said he did. He said the cost was $50.00 which would include shipping. I sent him a check for $50.00. The check was cashed, but the book never did arrive. I wrote to him twice telling him I had never received the book. My letters were never answered. I tried contacting him by phone and know I was calling the correct number because I had contacted him by phone before. No one ever answered the phone, even though I called several times. A microfilm of this book can be ordered from the Family History Library in Salt Lake City. I will order it tomorrow. If I remember correctly, the statement is made in this book that the John Cagle who married Lucy is thought to be the son of Charles Cagle. As early as 9 November 1783, this Charles Cagle was in the part of Mecklenburg Co., NC that became Cabarrus Co., NC in 1792. He was very likely there earlier, since 9 November 1783 is when he received a land grant. If I remember correctly, there is information about John Cagle's death in the book mentioned above by John G. Cagle. It seems like it mentioned his children, but I will have to check that out when the microfilm arrives. I am going to be away from home from May 26th through June 13th, so the film will probably arrive while I am gone, but I will look at it on the 18th of June, if it is here. My interest in John Cagle and his wife Lucy is Lucy. I have wondered if she could have been a daughter of Sebastian Hagler, since John's property in South Carolina was near Sebastian Hagler's land. Also John was a witness about 15 months later when Paul Hagler was buying land which was also near Sebastian Hagler. These deeds do not have Sebastian Hagler's name on them, but I have studied the geography of the area and know the Cagles and the Haglers lived near each other. So either John was still in the area or he made a trip back to the area to be a witness. If I remember correctly, there is some indication given as to where John Cagle moved after leaving South Carolina. As I remember John G. Cagle's book does not mention that John ever lived in South Carolina, but the age of the John Cagle, who was married to Lucy, is right to make it the same couple. Lucy was not a common name at that time, and I have not come across any other John Cagle with a wife named Lucy. I have an ancestress named Elizabeth Hagler, born 1772 or 1773, which is the right age to have been the daughter of Sebastian Hagler. I have not been able to determine who her parents were. I have ruled out some people but there are still four possibilities. I think the only way I am going to be able to determine the right parents will be through the testing of mitochondrial DNA. My Elizabeth Hagler had nine or ten sons but only two daughters: Barbara and Catherine. I have followed the all-mother-to-daughter descendants from Barbara and Catherine. Catherine's line ran out of females, but I have found four living females so far that could be tested from Barbara's line. I am now trying to find living females from all-mother-to-daughter descendants from the four possible mothers. I hope to compare their DNA with the DNA of the females from Barbara's line. This would show which of the four had a common female ancestor with the females from Barbara's line. I have actual names to start with for three of the four lines. I know Sebastian had daughters but I do not know the given names of any of them and I do not know the names of their spouses. So I am looking at Lucy as a possibility. I don't remember if John G. Cagle's book mentioned above indicated any daughters for John and Lucy. I was hoping someone out there would have the book and be able to tell me. I was not looking at the possibility of having DNA testing done at the time I was looking at the book a few years ago. Kimberly, I noticed you said Lucy was born in Moore Co., NC. What is the source of this information? I do not know where Sebastian lived before his arrival in Lancaster Co., SC. I do know he was there as early as 1764. That is when he bought a tract of land from Isaac Weidner. Isaac owned other land and remained in the area for the rest of his life. My Elizabeth Hagler married George Christman in about 1788; George was born in 1765 on Dutch Buffalo Creek in the part of Mecklenburg Co., NC that became Cabarrus Co., NC in 1792. George Christman's brother Michael Christman, Jr. married Elizabeth Weidner the daughter of Isaac Weidner, so it is not improbable that George married one of Sebastian's daughters. Kimberly, I'll repeat my question which I hope you can answer: What is the source of your information that Lucy was born in Moore Co., NC? Deed: (A little of the formatting has been lost by copying and pasting rather than sending the deed as an attachment.) !1796 LAND: SC, Lancaster Co, Register of Mesne Conveyance (Main Author), DEEDS, 1787-1867; INDEX TO DEEDS, 1767-1937, Microfilm # 0,024,054, Book D, p. 182. Photocopied 19 July 2002 by CICC at FHL in SLC; transcribed 4 August 2002 by CICC. "(March 11, 1797) This Indenture made the 6th day of Sepr. In the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred & ninety six Between John Cagle & Lucy his Wife of South Carolina Lancaster county of the one part and Jacob Hagler of South Carolina and Lancaster county of the other part Witnesseth that they the said John Cagle & Lucy his Wife for and in consideration of the sum of thirty pounds sterling to him in hand paid the receipt of whtch (sic) He doth hereby acknowledge. Hath bargained sold aliened ? [enfeoffed ?] & confirmed and do by these presents bargain sell alien ? [enfeoff ?] & confirm unto the said Jacob Hagler his heirs and Assigns forever one certain tract or parcel of land containing fifty acres more or less Situate on the West side of Big Lynches Creek beginning at a Hickory on the west side of side (sic) of (sic) said creek thence N 75 poles to a White Oak thence along Haglers line to the said creek, thence down the said creek to ? [Pates ? I wonder if this is an abbreviation for patentee.] lower line, & from thence W. To the beginning and hath such shapes and marks as is represented by a plat annexed to a Grant bearing Date one thousand seven hundred and fifty James McManus being the Patentee Which said tract of land with all the tenements hereditaments & every & singular the appurtenances thereunto belonging To have and to hold unto the said Jacob Hagler his heirs and assigns forever and the said John Cagle and Lucy his Wife them their heirs or assigns doth forever engage to defend the title of the aforesaid bargained premises to the said Jacob Hagler his heirs & assigns against the claim of all manner of person or persons and doth further promise to make any lawful right to the said land as shall be thought necessary hereafter by the said John Cagle for the more surety of conveyance of the above tract of land if requested In Witness whereof the said John Cagle & Lucy his wife hath set their hands and seals the date above written. Signed & delivered in presence of us Charles McManus John Cagle's X Mark Seal Leonard Cagle's X Mark Lucy Cagles X Mark Seal South Carolina Lancaster county Personally appeared Charles McManus before me & was duly sworn saith that he saw John Cagle & Lucy his wife sign seal & deliver the within instrument of Writing to Jacob Hagler for the use & intent set forth and further saith that he saw Leonard Cagle sign with himself as a Subscribing Witness Sworn to before me this 6th day of Sepr. 1796 John Welsh J. P. Charles McManus" SUMMARY: 6 September 1796 Deed: John & Lucy Cagle to Jacob Hagler, both of Lancaster Co., SC; 50 acres on west side of Big Lynches Creek in Lancaster Co., SC, "beginning at a Hickory on the west side of side (sic) of (sic) said creek thence N 75 poles to a White Oak thence along Haglers line to the said creek, thence down the said creek to ? [Pates ? I wonder if this is an abbreviation for patentee.] lower line, & from thence W. To the beginning and hath such shapes and marks as is represented by a plat annexed to a Grant bearing Date one thousand seven hundred and fifty James McManus being the Patentee ;" witnesses: Charles McManus & Leonard Cagle; neighbors: own land or Boston Haglers land? & McManus land? Proven: 6 September 1796 by Charles McManus, before John Welsh, J. P. Recorded: 11 March 1797. Deed: (The formatting is a little different on this deed also.) !1798 LAND: SC, Lancaster Co., Register of Mesne Conveyance (Main Author), DEEDS, 17871867; INDEX TO DEEDS,1767-1937, Microfilm #0,024,055, Book F, p. 211. Photocopied 19 July 2002 by CICC at FHL in SLC; transcribed 6 August 2002 by CICC. This Indenture made the ninth day of January, one thousand seven hundred and ninety eight Between Jacob Englet and Catharine Englet of the County of Lancaster and State of South Carolina of the one part and and (sic) Paul Hagler of the same place of the other part Witnesseth that the ? [said ?] Jacob Englet and Catharine Englet for and in consideration of the sum of ? [th . .?] two pounds to them in hand paid the receipt of which ? doth hereby acknowledge hath Bargained sold aliened ? [Enfeoffed ?] and confirmed and do by these presents bargain, sell, alien ? [Enfeoff ?] & confirm unto the said Paul Hagler heirs and assigns forever one certain parcel or Tract of land containing ? hundred and fifty acres situate in the District of Camden on a a branch of ? [Turkey? or Tuckey ?] hoe, Waters of linches Creek Beginning on a pine Running N 74 to a pine ? [station?' E 38 .. 73 to Black Oak S 168.38. .73 to a post oak corner S 74 W . 38 .. 73 . To a stake thence to the beginning, having such shapes forms and marks as are represented by a plat annexed to a grant bearing date ? [apri ?] the third one thousand seven hundred and eighty six in the tenth year of the Independence, Andrew Englet being the patentee, Together with ? [all ?] trees, water, water courses, profits, commodities appurtenances & ? whatsoever thereunto belonging to have and to hold the said tract of one hundred and fifty acres of land and all the said singular other ? [premises ?] hereby granted unto the said Paul Hagler his heirs and assigns forever and the said Jacob Englet and Catharine Englet for themselves their heirs Excrs. admrs. or assigns doth forever ? [engage ?] and warrant to Defend the title of the said land to the said Paul Hagler his heirs and assigns against the claim of all manner of Persons whatsoever---In Witness whereof the said Jacob Englet & Catharine Englet hath hereunto set their hands and seals the date above mentioned signed sealed and delivered in presents of his his Charles McManus John Cagle Jacob X Englet mark mark her Catharine X Englet mark South Carolina Personally appeared Charles McManus before me and after being duly Lancaster District sworn saith that he was present and saw Jacob Englet & Catharine Englet sign seal and deliver the within instrument of writing to Paul Hagler as their act and deed & further saith that John Cagle did assign as a subscribing witness to the same with himself sworn to before me this 30th day of ? [July ?] 1803 John Welsh J. P. Charles McManus Recorded October 29th 1804 SUMMARY: 9 January 1798 Deed: Jacob & Catharine Englet to Paul Hagler, both of Lancaster Co., SC, for ?2 [32 ?] pounds, 150 A. on a branch of Turkey hoe or Tuckey hoe, waters of Lynches Creek in Lancaster Co., SC; same as shown by a plat annexed to a grant ? [April ?] 3, 1786 to Andrew Englet; witnesses: Charles McManus & John Cagle; neighbors: none listed; proved: 30 ? [July `1] 1803 by Charles McManus; recorded 29 October 1804. Kimberly, if you would like me to send a copy of each deed as an attachment to your e-mail address, I will do that. Carole (Carole Irene Crismon Cook) -----Original Message----- From: cagle-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cagle-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kimberly Ann Spangrude Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 11:36 AM To: cagle@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CAGLE] Who were the other children of Old David Cagle? I don't know who the parents of John Cagle b. 1770 in Moore, North Carolina are. I would think that since he was born 1770, he is proably not the son of old David. I only know that John Cagle b. 1770 in Moore NC married Lucy ? b. abt 1770 in Moore, NC. and that they had Henry Cagle b. 1798 in South Carolina, who married Catherine ? born abt 1804 in North Carolina. Kim On May 19, 2007, at 5:55 AM, David Cagle wrote: Carole and Kimberly Which John Cagle are you referring to? John, son of Old David or other? There were two other Cagles who came to Hardin County with Henry Cagle. Sr in 1833 and all three were in the 1833 Tax List. They were Henry Cagle and his son James Cagle. Following is some material I got from others: Henry Cagle, born 11 Jul 1793 in NC, is on the 1840 Dekalb County, AL census. (Henry is a son of Valentine Cagle. Proof is his birth recorded in Valentine's Family Bible. Valentine is a son of Johan "David" Dewalt Theobald Cagle, son of Leonhart Kegel.) James & Henry are both listed on the 1850 Hancock, AL census. Can also be found on the 1860, 1870 & 1880 census records of Winston County, AL. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kimberly Ann Spangrude" <kimspangrude@mac.com> To: <cagle@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [CAGLE] Who were the other children of Old David Cagle? > Carole, I descend from one of John and Lucy's sons: Henry born 1798 > in SC, married Catherine b. 1804. I would be interested in knowing > more about the rest of John and Lucy's children, as I have only Henry > and no other names. I have that JOhn was born 1770; is that correct? > Kim > On May 18, 2007, at 10:00 PM, Carole Cook wrote: > > David, > > Thank you for your response. > > Do you have a copy of John G. Cagle's book? If you do, please tell > me the > names of the children of John and Lucy Cagle. I think John is > believed to > be the son of Charles Cagle of Cabarrus Co., NC. I think John left a > will > or there were estate papers for him naming his children. > > Carole > > -----Original Message----- > From: cagle-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cagle- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of David Cagle > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 7:45 PM > To: cagle@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CAGLE] Who were the other children of Old David Cagle? > > Since I don't have much else to go on, I tend to agree with John G. > Cagle re > > the sons of Old David Cagle. John wrote in Feb. 1991 that David's > sons > appear to be: > 1. John Cagle b. 1740's, d. 1826 Robertson Co., TN > 2. George Cagle, 1750-1825, Montgomery Co., NC > 3. Jacob Cagle, 1755-1845, Warren Co., TN > 4. Valentine Cagle, 1760's-ca 1815 Warren Co., TN > 5. Henry Cagle, ca 1760-ca 1838 Hardin Co., TN > > I am a descendent of No.5, Henry Cagle, Sr. above. Three Cagles who I > assume to be his sons moved to Hardin Co, TN in the 1820's from > Cabarrus Co. > > NC. Charles Cagle was in the Hardin Co., Court Records in 1823, > George > bought land in Hardin Co., in 1826 and Henry Cagle, Jr., 1780-1857, > was in > Hardin County by 1829. Charles Cagle bought and sold land in adjacent > McNairy Co., TN in 1837, never to heard of again (someone help me). > George > and Henry Jr. were in the 1830 census of Hardin Co. Both were on the > 1833 > Tax List of Hardin Co. along with their father, Henry Sr. all three > entered > > land and had it surveyed in Hardin Co., TN in 1837. I have no further > record of Henry Cagle Sr. and assume he died ca 1838. George and > Henry Sr. > along with other family members moved to New Madrid Co., MO in 1838. > While > clearing land, George was killed by a falling tree in 1840. Henry > Cagle, > Jr. died in New Madrid Co. MO in 1857. Administration of his estate > named > all his Children, but I don't know his first wife, nor the wife of > Henry > Cagle, Sr. Need Help here. > > Glad you ask that question Carole. Hope you get some more opinions. > David > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carole Cook" <carolescoaching@mstarmetro.net> > To: "CAGLE@rootsweb. com" <CAGLE@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 10:10 PM > Subject: [CAGLE] Who were the other children of Old David Cagle? > > >> Old David Cagle was the father of George Cagle (born c1750; died 6 >> November >> 1825 in Montgomery Co., NC). The wife of George was Rebecca. >> >> >> >> Old David Cagle was also the father of a son named Jacob Cagle. >> >> >> >> What were the names of the other children of old David Cagle? >> >> >> >> Carole >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.3/809 - Release Date: >> 5/17/2007 >> 5:18 PM >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAGLE- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.4/811 - Release Date: > 5/18/2007 > 3:50 PM > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAGLE- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAGLE- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kimberly and David, A few years ago I saw John G. Cagle's books at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City. As a result I contacted John G. Cagle and asked if he had any more copies of The Cagle Family in the South to 1850: North Carolina. He said he did. He said the cost was $50.00 which would include shipping. I sent him a check for $50.00. The check was cashed, but the book never did arrive. I wrote to him twice telling him I had never received the book. My letters were never answered. I tried contacting him by phone and know I was calling the correct number because I had contacted him by phone before. No one ever answered the phone, even though I called several times. A microfilm of this book can be ordered from the Family History Library in Salt Lake City. I will order it tomorrow. If I remember correctly, the statement is made in this book that the John Cagle who married Lucy is thought to be the son of Charles Cagle. As early as 9 November 1783, this Charles Cagle was in the part of Mecklenburg Co., NC that became Cabarrus Co., NC in 1792. He was very likely there earlier, since 9 November 1783 is when he received a land grant. If I remember correctly, there is information about John Cagle's death in the book mentioned above by John G. Cagle. It seems like it mentioned his children, but I will have to check that out when the microfilm arrives. I am going to be away from home from May 26th through June 13th, so the film will probably arrive while I am gone, but I will look at it on the 18th of June, if it is here. My interest in John Cagle and his wife Lucy is Lucy. I have wondered if she could have been a daughter of Sebastian Hagler, since John's property in South Carolina was near Sebastian Hagler's land. Also John was a witness about 15 months later when Paul Hagler was buying land which was also near Sebastian Hagler. These deeds do not have Sebastian Hagler's name on them, but I have studied the geography of the area and know the Cagles and the Haglers lived near each other. So either John was still in the area or he made a trip back to the area to be a witness. If I remember correctly, there is some indication given as to where John Cagle moved after leaving South Carolina. As I remember John G. Cagle's book does not mention that John ever lived in South Carolina, but the age of the John Cagle, who was married to Lucy, is right to make it the same couple. Lucy was not a common name at that time, and I have not come across any other John Cagle with a wife named Lucy. I have an ancestress named Elizabeth Hagler, born 1772 or 1773, which is the right age to have been the daughter of Sebastian Hagler. I have not been able to determine who her parents were. I have ruled out some people but there are still four possibilities. I think the only way I am going to be able to determine the right parents will be through the testing of mitochondrial DNA. My Elizabeth Hagler had nine or ten sons but only two daughters: Barbara and Catherine. I have followed the all-mother-to-daughter descendants from Barbara and Catherine. Catherine's line ran out of females, but I have found four living females so far that could be tested from Barbara's line. I am now trying to find living females from all-mother-to-daughter descendants from the four possible mothers. I hope to compare their DNA with the DNA of the females from Barbara's line. This would show which of the four had a common female ancestor with the females from Barbara's line. I have actual names to start with for three of the four lines. I know Sebastian had daughters but I do not know the given names of any of them and I do not know the names of their spouses. So I am looking at Lucy as a possibility. I don't remember if John G. Cagle's book mentioned above indicated any daughters for John and Lucy. I was hoping someone out there would have the book and be able to tell me. I was not looking at the possibility of having DNA testing done at the time I was looking at the book a few years ago. Kimberly, I noticed you said Lucy was born in Moore Co., NC. What is the source of this information? I do not know where Sebastian lived before his arrival in Lancaster Co., SC. I do know he was there as early as 1764. That is when he bought a tract of land from Isaac Weidner. Isaac owned other land and remained in the area for the rest of his life. My Elizabeth Hagler married George Christman in about 1788; George was born in 1765 on Dutch Buffalo Creek in the part of Mecklenburg Co., NC that became Cabarrus Co., NC in 1792. George Christman's brother Michael Christman, Jr. married Elizabeth Weidner the daughter of Isaac Weidner, so it is not improbable that George married one of Sebastian's daughters. Kimberly, I'll repeat my question which I hope you can answer: What is the source of your information that Lucy was born in Moore Co., NC? Deed: (A little of the formatting has been lost by copying and pasting rather than sending the deed as an attachment.) !1796 LAND: SC, Lancaster Co, Register of Mesne Conveyance (Main Author), DEEDS, 1787-1867; INDEX TO DEEDS, 1767-1937, Microfilm # 0,024,054, Book D, p. 182. Photocopied 19 July 2002 by CICC at FHL in SLC; transcribed 4 August 2002 by CICC. "(March 11, 1797) This Indenture made the 6th day of Sepr. In the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred & ninety six Between John Cagle & Lucy his Wife of South Carolina Lancaster county of the one part and Jacob Hagler of South Carolina and Lancaster county of the other part Witnesseth that they the said John Cagle & Lucy his Wife for and in consideration of the sum of thirty pounds sterling to him in hand paid the receipt of whtch (sic) He doth hereby acknowledge. Hath bargained sold aliened ? [enfeoffed ?] & confirmed and do by these presents bargain sell alien ? [enfeoff ?] & confirm unto the said Jacob Hagler his heirs and Assigns forever one certain tract or parcel of land containing fifty acres more or less Situate on the West side of Big Lynches Creek beginning at a Hickory on the west side of side (sic) of (sic) said creek thence N 75 poles to a White Oak thence along Haglers line to the said creek, thence down the said creek to ? [Pates ? I wonder if this is an abbreviation for patentee.] lower line, & from thence W. To the beginning and hath such shapes and marks as is represented by a plat annexed to a Grant bearing Date one thousand seven hundred and fifty James McManus being the Patentee Which said tract of land with all the tenements hereditaments & every & singular the appurtenances thereunto belonging To have and to hold unto the said Jacob Hagler his heirs and assigns forever and the said John Cagle and Lucy his Wife them their heirs or assigns doth forever engage to defend the title of the aforesaid bargained premises to the said Jacob Hagler his heirs & assigns against the claim of all manner of person or persons and doth further promise to make any lawful right to the said land as shall be thought necessary hereafter by the said John Cagle for the more surety of conveyance of the above tract of land if requested In Witness whereof the said John Cagle & Lucy his wife hath set their hands and seals the date above written. Signed & delivered in presence of us Charles McManus John Cagle's X Mark Seal Leonard Cagle's X Mark Lucy Cagles X Mark Seal South Carolina Lancaster county Personally appeared Charles McManus before me & was duly sworn saith that he saw John Cagle & Lucy his wife sign seal & deliver the within instrument of Writing to Jacob Hagler for the use & intent set forth and further saith that he saw Leonard Cagle sign with himself as a Subscribing Witness Sworn to before me this 6th day of Sepr. 1796 John Welsh J. P. Charles McManus" SUMMARY: 6 September 1796 Deed: John & Lucy Cagle to Jacob Hagler, both of Lancaster Co., SC; 50 acres on west side of Big Lynches Creek in Lancaster Co., SC, "beginning at a Hickory on the west side of side (sic) of (sic) said creek thence N 75 poles to a White Oak thence along Haglers line to the said creek, thence down the said creek to ? [Pates ? I wonder if this is an abbreviation for patentee.] lower line, & from thence W. To the beginning and hath such shapes and marks as is represented by a plat annexed to a Grant bearing Date one thousand seven hundred and fifty James McManus being the Patentee ;" witnesses: Charles McManus & Leonard Cagle; neighbors: own land or Boston Haglers land? & McManus land? Proven: 6 September 1796 by Charles McManus, before John Welsh, J. P. Recorded: 11 March 1797. Deed: (The formatting is a little different on this deed also.) !1798 LAND: SC, Lancaster Co., Register of Mesne Conveyance (Main Author), DEEDS, 17871867; INDEX TO DEEDS,1767-1937, Microfilm #0,024,055, Book F, p. 211. Photocopied 19 July 2002 by CICC at FHL in SLC; transcribed 6 August 2002 by CICC. This Indenture made the ninth day of January, one thousand seven hundred and ninety eight Between Jacob Englet and Catharine Englet of the County of Lancaster and State of South Carolina of the one part and and (sic) Paul Hagler of the same place of the other part Witnesseth that the ? [said ?] Jacob Englet and Catharine Englet for and in consideration of the sum of ? [th . .?] two pounds to them in hand paid the receipt of which ? doth hereby acknowledge hath Bargained sold aliened ? [Enfeoffed ?] and confirmed and do by these presents bargain, sell, alien ? [Enfeoff ?] & confirm unto the said Paul Hagler heirs and assigns forever one certain parcel or Tract of land containing ? hundred and fifty acres situate in the District of Camden on a a branch of ? [Turkey? or Tuckey ?] hoe, Waters of linches Creek Beginning on a pine Running N 74 to a pine ? [station?' E 38 .. 73 to Black Oak S 168.38. .73 to a post oak corner S 74 W . 38 .. 73 . To a stake thence to the beginning, having such shapes forms and marks as are represented by a plat annexed to a grant bearing date ? [apri ?] the third one thousand seven hundred and eighty six in the tenth year of the Independence, Andrew Englet being the patentee, Together with ? [all ?] trees, water, water courses, profits, commodities appurtenances & ? whatsoever thereunto belonging to have and to hold the said tract of one hundred and fifty acres of land and all the said singular other ? [premises ?] hereby granted unto the said Paul Hagler his heirs and assigns forever and the said Jacob Englet and Catharine Englet for themselves their heirs Excrs. admrs. or assigns doth forever ? [engage ?] and warrant to Defend the title of the said land to the said Paul Hagler his heirs and assigns against the claim of all manner of Persons whatsoever---In Witness whereof the said Jacob Englet & Catharine Englet hath hereunto set their hands and seals the date above mentioned signed sealed and delivered in presents of his his Charles McManus John Cagle Jacob X Englet mark mark her Catharine X Englet mark South Carolina Personally appeared Charles McManus before me and after being duly Lancaster District sworn saith that he was present and saw Jacob Englet & Catharine Englet sign seal and deliver the within instrument of writing to Paul Hagler as their act and deed & further saith that John Cagle did assign as a subscribing witness to the same with himself sworn to before me this 30th day of ? [July ?] 1803 John Welsh J. P. Charles McManus Recorded October 29th 1804 SUMMARY: 9 January 1798 Deed: Jacob & Catharine Englet to Paul Hagler, both of Lancaster Co., SC, for ?2 [32 ?] pounds, 150 A. on a branch of Turkey hoe or Tuckey hoe, waters of Lynches Creek in Lancaster Co., SC; same as shown by a plat annexed to a grant ? [April ?] 3, 1786 to Andrew Englet; witnesses: Charles McManus & John Cagle; neighbors: none listed; proved: 30 ? [July `1] 1803 by Charles McManus; recorded 29 October 1804. Kimberly, if you would like me to send a copy of each deed as an attachment to your e-mail address, I will do that. Carole (Carole Irene Crismon Cook) -----Original Message----- From: cagle-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cagle-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kimberly Ann Spangrude Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 11:36 AM To: cagle@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CAGLE] Who were the other children of Old David Cagle? I don't know who the parents of John Cagle b. 1770 in Moore, North Carolina are. I would think that since he was born 1770, he is proably not the son of old David. I only know that John Cagle b. 1770 in Moore NC married Lucy ? b. abt 1770 in Moore, NC. and that they had Henry Cagle b. 1798 in South Carolina, who married Catherine ? born abt 1804 in North Carolina. Kim On May 19, 2007, at 5:55 AM, David Cagle wrote: Carole and Kimberly Which John Cagle are you referring to? John, son of Old David or other? There were two other Cagles who came to Hardin County with Henry Cagle. Sr in 1833 and all three were in the 1833 Tax List. They were Henry Cagle and his son James Cagle. Following is some material I got from others: Henry Cagle, born 11 Jul 1793 in NC, is on the 1840 Dekalb County, AL census. (Henry is a son of Valentine Cagle. Proof is his birth recorded in Valentine's Family Bible. Valentine is a son of Johan "David" Dewalt Theobald Cagle, son of Leonhart Kegel.) James & Henry are both listed on the 1850 Hancock, AL census. Can also be found on the 1860, 1870 & 1880 census records of Winston County, AL. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kimberly Ann Spangrude" <kimspangrude@mac.com> To: <cagle@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [CAGLE] Who were the other children of Old David Cagle? > Carole, I descend from one of John and Lucy's sons: Henry born 1798 > in SC, married Catherine b. 1804. I would be interested in knowing > more about the rest of John and Lucy's children, as I have only Henry > and no other names. I have that JOhn was born 1770; is that correct? > Kim > On May 18, 2007, at 10:00 PM, Carole Cook wrote: > > David, > > Thank you for your response. > > Do you have a copy of John G. Cagle's book? If you do, please tell > me the > names of the children of John and Lucy Cagle. I think John is > believed to > be the son of Charles Cagle of Cabarrus Co., NC. I think John left a > will > or there were estate papers for him naming his children. > > Carole > > -----Original Message----- > From: cagle-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cagle- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of David Cagle > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 7:45 PM > To: cagle@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CAGLE] Who were the other children of Old David Cagle? > > Since I don't have much else to go on, I tend to agree with John G. > Cagle re > > the sons of Old David Cagle. John wrote in Feb. 1991 that David's > sons > appear to be: > 1. John Cagle b. 1740's, d. 1826 Robertson Co., TN > 2. George Cagle, 1750-1825, Montgomery Co., NC > 3. Jacob Cagle, 1755-1845, Warren Co., TN > 4. Valentine Cagle, 1760's-ca 1815 Warren Co., TN > 5. Henry Cagle, ca 1760-ca 1838 Hardin Co., TN > > I am a descendent of No.5, Henry Cagle, Sr. above. Three Cagles who I > assume to be his sons moved to Hardin Co, TN in the 1820's from > Cabarrus Co. > > NC. Charles Cagle was in the Hardin Co., Court Records in 1823, > George > bought land in Hardin Co., in 1826 and Henry Cagle, Jr., 1780-1857, > was in > Hardin County by 1829. Charles Cagle bought and sold land in adjacent > McNairy Co., TN in 1837, never to heard of again (someone help me). > George > and Henry Jr. were in the 1830 census of Hardin Co. Both were on the > 1833 > Tax List of Hardin Co. along with their father, Henry Sr. all three > entered > > land and had it surveyed in Hardin Co., TN in 1837. I have no further > record of Henry Cagle Sr. and assume he died ca 1838. George and > Henry Sr. > along with other family members moved to New Madrid Co., MO in 1838. > While > clearing land, George was killed by a falling tree in 1840. Henry > Cagle, > Jr. died in New Madrid Co. MO in 1857. Administration of his estate > named > all his Children, but I don't know his first wife, nor the wife of > Henry > Cagle, Sr. Need Help here. > > Glad you ask that question Carole. Hope you get some more opinions. > David > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carole Cook" <carolescoaching@mstarmetro.net> > To: "CAGLE@rootsweb. com" <CAGLE@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 10:10 PM > Subject: [CAGLE] Who were the other children of Old David Cagle? > > >> Old David Cagle was the father of George Cagle (born c1750; died 6 >> November >> 1825 in Montgomery Co., NC). 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David Cagle had a son John, but the one you mention may be a little young for David. Two of David's brothers who lived in Moore Co., NC are shown below. David John "Dutchman" Cagle 1. George Cagle, 1760s 1830s 2. Jacob Cagle, 1766- 1850s 3. Henry Cagle, 1770-1840s 4. Elizabeth Gilmore 5. Mary Melton 6. John Cagle, 1780s 1830s 7. William Cagle, 1788-1860 8. Susanna Cagle 9. Dorety Cagle 10. Margaret Cagle Henry Cagle Sr. 1. William Cagle, 1754-1850s 2. Christian Cagle 1760-1850s 3. Henry Cagle, 1770s-1830s 4. Peter Cagle, 1775-1842 5. John Cagle, 1770s 1840s 6. Jacob Cagle, 1770s 1840s 7. George Cagle, 1782-1864 8. Martin Cagle, 1780s-1850s 9. Caterana Cockman listed as daughter-in-law 10. Eliza Hubbard 11. Mary Auman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kimberly Ann Spangrude" <kimspangrude@mac.com> To: <cagle@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [CAGLE] Who were the other children of Old David Cagle? >I don't know who the parents of John Cagle b. 1770 in Moore, North > Carolina are. I would think that since he was born 1770, he is > proably not the son of old David. I only know that John Cagle b. > 1770 in Moore NC married Lucy ? b. abt 1770 in Moore, NC. and that > they had Henry Cagle b. 1798 in South Carolina, who married > Catherine ? born abt 1804 in North Carolina. > Kim > On May 19, 2007, at 5:55 AM, David Cagle wrote: > > Carole and Kimberly > Which John Cagle are you referring to? John, son of Old David or other? > > There were two other Cagles who came to Hardin County with Henry > Cagle. Sr > in 1833 and all three were in the 1833 Tax List. They were Henry > Cagle and > his son James Cagle. > > Following is some material I got from others: > > Henry Cagle, born 11 Jul 1793 in NC, is on the 1840 Dekalb County, AL > census. (Henry is a son of Valentine Cagle. Proof is his birth > recorded in > Valentine's Family Bible. Valentine is a son of Johan "David" Dewalt > Theobald Cagle, son of Leonhart Kegel.) > > James & Henry are both listed on the 1850 Hancock, AL census. Can > also be > found on the 1860, 1870 & 1880 census records of Winston > County, AL. > > David > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kimberly Ann Spangrude" <kimspangrude@mac.com> > To: <cagle@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 11:17 PM > Subject: Re: [CAGLE] Who were the other children of Old David Cagle? > > >> Carole, I descend from one of John and Lucy's sons: Henry born 1798 >> in SC, married Catherine b. 1804. I would be interested in knowing >> more about the rest of John and Lucy's children, as I have only Henry >> and no other names. I have that JOhn was born 1770; is that correct? >> Kim >> On May 18, 2007, at 10:00 PM, Carole Cook wrote: >> >> David, >> >> Thank you for your response. >> >> Do you have a copy of John G. Cagle's book? If you do, please tell >> me the >> names of the children of John and Lucy Cagle. I think John is >> believed to >> be the son of Charles Cagle of Cabarrus Co., NC. I think John left a >> will >> or there were estate papers for him naming his children. >> >> Carole >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: cagle-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cagle- >> bounces@rootsweb.com] On >> Behalf Of David Cagle >> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 7:45 PM >> To: cagle@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [CAGLE] Who were the other children of Old David Cagle? >> >> Since I don't have much else to go on, I tend to agree with John G. >> Cagle re >> >> the sons of Old David Cagle. John wrote in Feb. 1991 that David's >> sons >> appear to be: >> 1. John Cagle b. 1740's, d. 1826 Robertson Co., TN >> 2. George Cagle, 1750-1825, Montgomery Co., NC >> 3. Jacob Cagle, 1755-1845, Warren Co., TN >> 4. Valentine Cagle, 1760's-ca 1815 Warren Co., TN >> 5. Henry Cagle, ca 1760-ca 1838 Hardin Co., TN >> >> I am a descendent of No.5, Henry Cagle, Sr. above. Three Cagles who I >> assume to be his sons moved to Hardin Co, TN in the 1820's from >> Cabarrus Co. >> >> NC. Charles Cagle was in the Hardin Co., Court Records in 1823, >> George >> bought land in Hardin Co., in 1826 and Henry Cagle, Jr., 1780-1857, >> was in >> Hardin County by 1829. Charles Cagle bought and sold land in adjacent >> McNairy Co., TN in 1837, never to heard of again (someone help me). >> George >> and Henry Jr. were in the 1830 census of Hardin Co. Both were on the >> 1833 >> Tax List of Hardin Co. along with their father, Henry Sr. all three >> entered >> >> land and had it surveyed in Hardin Co., TN in 1837. I have no further >> record of Henry Cagle Sr. and assume he died ca 1838. George and >> Henry Sr. >> along with other family members moved to New Madrid Co., MO in 1838. >> While >> clearing land, George was killed by a falling tree in 1840. Henry >> Cagle, >> Jr. died in New Madrid Co. MO in 1857. Administration of his estate >> named >> all his Children, but I don't know his first wife, nor the wife of >> Henry >> Cagle, Sr. Need Help here. >> >> Glad you ask that question Carole. Hope you get some more opinions. >> David >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Carole Cook" <carolescoaching@mstarmetro.net> >> To: "CAGLE@rootsweb. com" <CAGLE@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 10:10 PM >> Subject: [CAGLE] Who were the other children of Old David Cagle? >> >> >>> Old David Cagle was the father of George Cagle (born c1750; died 6 >>> November >>> 1825 in Montgomery Co., NC). The wife of George was Rebecca. >>> >>> >>> >>> Old David Cagle was also the father of a son named Jacob Cagle. >>> >>> >>> >>> What were the names of the other children of old David Cagle? >>> >>> >>> >>> Carole >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.3/809 - Release Date: >>> 5/17/2007 >>> 5:18 PM >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAGLE- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.4/811 - Release Date: >> 5/18/2007 >> 3:50 PM >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAGLE- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.5/812 - Release Date: 5/19/2007 > 1:52 PM > >

I don't know who the parents of John Cagle b. 1770 in Moore, North Carolina are. I would think that since he was born 1770, he is proably not the son of old David. I only know that John Cagle b. 1770 in Moore NC married Lucy ? b. abt 1770 in Moore, NC. and that they had Henry Cagle b. 1798 in South Carolina, who married Catherine ? born abt 1804 in North Carolina. Kim On May 19, 2007, at 5:55 AM, David Cagle wrote: Carole and Kimberly Which John Cagle are you referring to? John, son of Old David or other? There were two other Cagles who came to Hardin County with Henry Cagle. Sr in 1833 and all three were in the 1833 Tax List. They were Henry Cagle and his son James Cagle. Following is some material I got from others: Henry Cagle, born 11 Jul 1793 in NC, is on the 1840 Dekalb County, AL census. (Henry is a son of Valentine Cagle. Proof is his birth recorded in Valentine's Family Bible. Valentine is a son of Johan "David" Dewalt Theobald Cagle, son of Leonhart Kegel.) James & Henry are both listed on the 1850 Hancock, AL census. Can also be found on the 1860, 1870 & 1880 census records of Winston County, AL. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kimberly Ann Spangrude" <kimspangrude@mac.com> To: <cagle@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [CAGLE] Who were the other children of Old David Cagle? > Carole, I descend from one of John and Lucy's sons: Henry born 1798 > in SC, married Catherine b. 1804. I would be interested in knowing > more about the rest of John and Lucy's children, as I have only Henry > and no other names. I have that JOhn was born 1770; is that correct? > Kim > On May 18, 2007, at 10:00 PM, Carole Cook wrote: > > David, > > Thank you for your response. > > Do you have a copy of John G. Cagle's book? If you do, please tell > me the > names of the children of John and Lucy Cagle. I think John is > believed to > be the son of Charles Cagle of Cabarrus Co., NC. I think John left a > will > or there were estate papers for him naming his children. > > Carole > > -----Original Message----- > From: cagle-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cagle- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of David Cagle > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 7:45 PM > To: cagle@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CAGLE] Who were the other children of Old David Cagle? > > Since I don't have much else to go on, I tend to agree with John G. > Cagle re > > the sons of Old David Cagle. John wrote in Feb. 1991 that David's > sons > appear to be: > 1. John Cagle b. 1740's, d. 1826 Robertson Co., TN > 2. George Cagle, 1750-1825, Montgomery Co., NC > 3. Jacob Cagle, 1755-1845, Warren Co., TN > 4. Valentine Cagle, 1760's-ca 1815 Warren Co., TN > 5. Henry Cagle, ca 1760-ca 1838 Hardin Co., TN > > I am a descendent of No.5, Henry Cagle, Sr. above. Three Cagles who I > assume to be his sons moved to Hardin Co, TN in the 1820's from > Cabarrus Co. > > NC. Charles Cagle was in the Hardin Co., Court Records in 1823, > George > bought land in Hardin Co., in 1826 and Henry Cagle, Jr., 1780-1857, > was in > Hardin County by 1829. Charles Cagle bought and sold land in adjacent > McNairy Co., TN in 1837, never to heard of again (someone help me). > George > and Henry Jr. were in the 1830 census of Hardin Co. Both were on the > 1833 > Tax List of Hardin Co. along with their father, Henry Sr. all three > entered > > land and had it surveyed in Hardin Co., TN in 1837. I have no further > record of Henry Cagle Sr. and assume he died ca 1838. George and > Henry Sr. > along with other family members moved to New Madrid Co., MO in 1838. > While > clearing land, George was killed by a falling tree in 1840. Henry > Cagle, > Jr. died in New Madrid Co. MO in 1857. Administration of his estate > named > all his Children, but I don't know his first wife, nor the wife of > Henry > Cagle, Sr. Need Help here. > > Glad you ask that question Carole. Hope you get some more opinions. > David > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carole Cook" <carolescoaching@mstarmetro.net> > To: "CAGLE@rootsweb. com" <CAGLE@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 10:10 PM > Subject: [CAGLE] Who were the other children of Old David Cagle? > > >> Old David Cagle was the father of George Cagle (born c1750; died 6 >> November >> 1825 in Montgomery Co., NC). The wife of George was Rebecca. >> >> >> >> Old David Cagle was also the father of a son named Jacob Cagle. >> >> >> >> What were the names of the other children of old David Cagle? >> >> >> >> Carole >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.3/809 - Release Date: >> 5/17/2007 >> 5:18 PM >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAGLE- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.4/811 - Release Date: > 5/18/2007 > 3:50 PM > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAGLE- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Carole and Kimberly Which John Cagle are you referring to? John, son of Old David or other? There were two other Cagles who came to Hardin County with Henry Cagle. Sr in 1833 and all three were in the 1833 Tax List. They were Henry Cagle and his son James Cagle. Following is some material I got from others: Henry Cagle, born 11 Jul 1793 in NC, is on the 1840 Dekalb County, AL census. (Henry is a son of Valentine Cagle. Proof is his birth recorded in Valentine's Family Bible. Valentine is a son of Johan "David" Dewalt Theobald Cagle, son of Leonhart Kegel.) James & Henry are both listed on the 1850 Hancock, AL census. Can also be found on the 1860, 1870 & 1880 census records of Winston County, AL. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kimberly Ann Spangrude" <kimspangrude@mac.com> To: <cagle@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [CAGLE] Who were the other children of Old David Cagle? > Carole, I descend from one of John and Lucy's sons: Henry born 1798 > in SC, married Catherine b. 1804. I would be interested in knowing > more about the rest of John and Lucy's children, as I have only Henry > and no other names. I have that JOhn was born 1770; is that correct? > Kim > On May 18, 2007, at 10:00 PM, Carole Cook wrote: > > David, > > Thank you for your response. > > Do you have a copy of John G. Cagle's book? If you do, please tell > me the > names of the children of John and Lucy Cagle. I think John is > believed to > be the son of Charles Cagle of Cabarrus Co., NC. I think John left a > will > or there were estate papers for him naming his children. > > Carole > > -----Original Message----- > From: cagle-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cagle-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of David Cagle > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 7:45 PM > To: cagle@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CAGLE] Who were the other children of Old David Cagle? > > Since I don't have much else to go on, I tend to agree with John G. > Cagle re > > the sons of Old David Cagle. John wrote in Feb. 1991 that David's sons > appear to be: > 1. John Cagle b. 1740's, d. 1826 Robertson Co., TN > 2. George Cagle, 1750-1825, Montgomery Co., NC > 3. Jacob Cagle, 1755-1845, Warren Co., TN > 4. Valentine Cagle, 1760's-ca 1815 Warren Co., TN > 5. Henry Cagle, ca 1760-ca 1838 Hardin Co., TN > > I am a descendent of No.5, Henry Cagle, Sr. above. Three Cagles who I > assume to be his sons moved to Hardin Co, TN in the 1820's from > Cabarrus Co. > > NC. Charles Cagle was in the Hardin Co., Court Records in 1823, George > bought land in Hardin Co., in 1826 and Henry Cagle, Jr., 1780-1857, > was in > Hardin County by 1829. Charles Cagle bought and sold land in adjacent > McNairy Co., TN in 1837, never to heard of again (someone help me). > George > and Henry Jr. were in the 1830 census of Hardin Co. Both were on the > 1833 > Tax List of Hardin Co. along with their father, Henry Sr. all three > entered > > land and had it surveyed in Hardin Co., TN in 1837. I have no further > record of Henry Cagle Sr. and assume he died ca 1838. George and > Henry Sr. > along with other family members moved to New Madrid Co., MO in 1838. > While > clearing land, George was killed by a falling tree in 1840. Henry > Cagle, > Jr. died in New Madrid Co. MO in 1857. Administration of his estate > named > all his Children, but I don't know his first wife, nor the wife of Henry > Cagle, Sr. Need Help here. > > Glad you ask that question Carole. Hope you get some more opinions. > David > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carole Cook" <carolescoaching@mstarmetro.net> > To: "CAGLE@rootsweb. com" <CAGLE@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 10:10 PM > Subject: [CAGLE] Who were the other children of Old David Cagle? > > >> Old David Cagle was the father of George Cagle (born c1750; died 6 >> November >> 1825 in Montgomery Co., NC). 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Carole, I descend from one of John and Lucy's sons: Henry born 1798 in SC, married Catherine b. 1804. I would be interested in knowing more about the rest of John and Lucy's children, as I have only Henry and no other names. I have that JOhn was born 1770; is that correct? Kim On May 18, 2007, at 10:00 PM, Carole Cook wrote: David, Thank you for your response. Do you have a copy of John G. Cagle's book? If you do, please tell me the names of the children of John and Lucy Cagle. I think John is believed to be the son of Charles Cagle of Cabarrus Co., NC. I think John left a will or there were estate papers for him naming his children. Carole -----Original Message----- From: cagle-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cagle-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Cagle Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 7:45 PM To: cagle@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CAGLE] Who were the other children of Old David Cagle? Since I don't have much else to go on, I tend to agree with John G. Cagle re the sons of Old David Cagle. John wrote in Feb. 1991 that David's sons appear to be: 1. John Cagle b. 1740's, d. 1826 Robertson Co., TN 2. George Cagle, 1750-1825, Montgomery Co., NC 3. Jacob Cagle, 1755-1845, Warren Co., TN 4. Valentine Cagle, 1760's-ca 1815 Warren Co., TN 5. Henry Cagle, ca 1760-ca 1838 Hardin Co., TN I am a descendent of No.5, Henry Cagle, Sr. above. Three Cagles who I assume to be his sons moved to Hardin Co, TN in the 1820's from Cabarrus Co. NC. Charles Cagle was in the Hardin Co., Court Records in 1823, George bought land in Hardin Co., in 1826 and Henry Cagle, Jr., 1780-1857, was in Hardin County by 1829. Charles Cagle bought and sold land in adjacent McNairy Co., TN in 1837, never to heard of again (someone help me). George and Henry Jr. were in the 1830 census of Hardin Co. Both were on the 1833 Tax List of Hardin Co. along with their father, Henry Sr. all three entered land and had it surveyed in Hardin Co., TN in 1837. I have no further record of Henry Cagle Sr. and assume he died ca 1838. George and Henry Sr. along with other family members moved to New Madrid Co., MO in 1838. While clearing land, George was killed by a falling tree in 1840. Henry Cagle, Jr. died in New Madrid Co. MO in 1857. Administration of his estate named all his Children, but I don't know his first wife, nor the wife of Henry Cagle, Sr. Need Help here. Glad you ask that question Carole. Hope you get some more opinions. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carole Cook" <carolescoaching@mstarmetro.net> To: "CAGLE@rootsweb. com" <CAGLE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 10:10 PM Subject: [CAGLE] Who were the other children of Old David Cagle? > Old David Cagle was the father of George Cagle (born c1750; died 6 > November > 1825 in Montgomery Co., NC). The wife of George was Rebecca. > > > > Old David Cagle was also the father of a son named Jacob Cagle. > > > > What were the names of the other children of old David Cagle? > > > > Carole > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.3/809 - Release Date: > 5/17/2007 > 5:18 PM > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAGLE- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

David, Thank you for your response. Do you have a copy of John G. Cagle's book? If you do, please tell me the names of the children of John and Lucy Cagle. I think John is believed to be the son of Charles Cagle of Cabarrus Co., NC. I think John left a will or there were estate papers for him naming his children. Carole -----Original Message----- From: cagle-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cagle-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Cagle Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 7:45 PM To: cagle@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CAGLE] Who were the other children of Old David Cagle? Since I don't have much else to go on, I tend to agree with John G. Cagle re the sons of Old David Cagle. John wrote in Feb. 1991 that David's sons appear to be: 1. John Cagle b. 1740's, d. 1826 Robertson Co., TN 2. George Cagle, 1750-1825, Montgomery Co., NC 3. Jacob Cagle, 1755-1845, Warren Co., TN 4. Valentine Cagle, 1760's-ca 1815 Warren Co., TN 5. Henry Cagle, ca 1760-ca 1838 Hardin Co., TN I am a descendent of No.5, Henry Cagle, Sr. above. Three Cagles who I assume to be his sons moved to Hardin Co, TN in the 1820's from Cabarrus Co. NC. Charles Cagle was in the Hardin Co., Court Records in 1823, George bought land in Hardin Co., in 1826 and Henry Cagle, Jr., 1780-1857, was in Hardin County by 1829. Charles Cagle bought and sold land in adjacent McNairy Co., TN in 1837, never to heard of again (someone help me). George and Henry Jr. were in the 1830 census of Hardin Co. Both were on the 1833 Tax List of Hardin Co. along with their father, Henry Sr. all three entered land and had it surveyed in Hardin Co., TN in 1837. I have no further record of Henry Cagle Sr. and assume he died ca 1838. George and Henry Sr. along with other family members moved to New Madrid Co., MO in 1838. While clearing land, George was killed by a falling tree in 1840. Henry Cagle, Jr. died in New Madrid Co. MO in 1857. Administration of his estate named all his Children, but I don't know his first wife, nor the wife of Henry Cagle, Sr. Need Help here. Glad you ask that question Carole. Hope you get some more opinions. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carole Cook" <carolescoaching@mstarmetro.net> To: "CAGLE@rootsweb. com" <CAGLE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 10:10 PM Subject: [CAGLE] Who were the other children of Old David Cagle? > Old David Cagle was the father of George Cagle (born c1750; died 6 > November > 1825 in Montgomery Co., NC). The wife of George was Rebecca. > > > > Old David Cagle was also the father of a son named Jacob Cagle. > > > > What were the names of the other children of old David Cagle? > > > > Carole > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.3/809 - Release Date: 5/17/2007 > 5:18 PM > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Since I don't have much else to go on, I tend to agree with John G. Cagle re the sons of Old David Cagle. John wrote in Feb. 1991 that David's sons appear to be: 1. John Cagle b. 1740's, d. 1826 Robertson Co., TN 2. George Cagle, 1750-1825, Montgomery Co., NC 3. Jacob Cagle, 1755-1845, Warren Co., TN 4. Valentine Cagle, 1760's-ca 1815 Warren Co., TN 5. Henry Cagle, ca 1760-ca 1838 Hardin Co., TN I am a descendent of No.5, Henry Cagle, Sr. above. Three Cagles who I assume to be his sons moved to Hardin Co, TN in the 1820's from Cabarrus Co. NC. Charles Cagle was in the Hardin Co., Court Records in 1823, George bought land in Hardin Co., in 1826 and Henry Cagle, Jr., 1780-1857, was in Hardin County by 1829. Charles Cagle bought and sold land in adjacent McNairy Co., TN in 1837, never to heard of again (someone help me). George and Henry Jr. were in the 1830 census of Hardin Co. Both were on the 1833 Tax List of Hardin Co. along with their father, Henry Sr. all three entered land and had it surveyed in Hardin Co., TN in 1837. I have no further record of Henry Cagle Sr. and assume he died ca 1838. George and Henry Sr. along with other family members moved to New Madrid Co., MO in 1838. While clearing land, George was killed by a falling tree in 1840. Henry Cagle, Jr. died in New Madrid Co. MO in 1857. Administration of his estate named all his Children, but I don't know his first wife, nor the wife of Henry Cagle, Sr. Need Help here. Glad you ask that question Carole. Hope you get some more opinions. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carole Cook" <carolescoaching@mstarmetro.net> To: "CAGLE@rootsweb. com" <CAGLE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 10:10 PM Subject: [CAGLE] Who were the other children of Old David Cagle? > Old David Cagle was the father of George Cagle (born c1750; died 6 > November > 1825 in Montgomery Co., NC). The wife of George was Rebecca. > > > > Old David Cagle was also the father of a son named Jacob Cagle. > > > > What were the names of the other children of old David Cagle? > > > > Carole > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.3/809 - Release Date: 5/17/2007 > 5:18 PM > >

Old David Cagle was the father of George Cagle (born c1750; died 6 November 1825 in Montgomery Co., NC). The wife of George was Rebecca. Old David Cagle was also the father of a son named Jacob Cagle. What were the names of the other children of old David Cagle? Carole

Donna Cagle Heck wrote: > Jimmy passed away March or April of 2006 I believe. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: cagle-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cagle-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Helena Howell > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 3:50 PM > To: Cagle@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CAGLE] Jimmie Cagle > > I recently sent an email to Jimmie Cagle at jbcagle@aol.com. I've had that > address in my address book for several years and have no way of knowing if > it is still an active account. Thus far it has not bounced back, but my > understanding is that many ISPs don't bother to send failure notices if the > address is no longer active. Does anyone out there know if Jimmie B. Cagle > is still involved with the Cagle mail list, or even if he is still living? > I would appreciate any information available. Thanks. Helena Howell, > Prescott, AZ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > __________ NOD32 2261 (20070511) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Donna--Thanks for your reply re: Jimmie Cagle. Would you (or anyone else on the mail list) happen to know who, if anyone, has taken over his records, and if anyone is planning to publish a revised edition of his book CAGLE FAMILIES IN THE SOUTHERN STATES? Thanks, Helena Howell