Lee is right. I had forgotten the name Banty. Ed Merryman ----- Original Message ----- From: Lee Cagle<mailto:caglel1@juno.com> To: cagle@rootsweb.com<mailto:cagle@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [CAGLE] biddy Little chickens were called banties, at full growth they weighed about a pound on the foot, they would dress-out to about a half pound. A lot of them had feathers on their feet. Anything that was said to be "itty bitty" was a tad smaller than small. Lee Cagle Okla City -- BGKBVK@aol.com<mailto:BGKBVK@aol.com> wrote: Here is the real meaning of Biddy. It is a very small bedchamber pot antiques. We also called little chickens biddies. Ha Bettye ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour<http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________________________ Click to get kitchen cabinets at affordable prices. http://3rdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2111/fc/Ioyw6iifhXmuRj70CtnRxdHjSQmrY4YBtL7EkWhc0uebKPN4MaXUpR/<http://3rdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2111/fc/Ioyw6iifhXmuRj70CtnRxdHjSQmrY4YBtL7EkWhc0uebKPN4MaXUpR/> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
>From the land of the Big Chicken (Marietta, Georgia). Some information on the bird to help define some of our commentary. The Bantam (banty) is an extremely small chicken that is very alert and territorial and they do fight, some folk may use them for that purpose. Most raise them as a hobby and they come in many varieties, Cochin, Silkie, Duckwing, Seabright, Mille Fluer and many more. The hobbiest generally show their fowl. As I said they are territorial and will fight, often at the drop of a hat and some wore hats, at least topknots. Now, the so called fighting chicken, more correctly known as game fowl. These are the birds that are bred primarily for fighting and they originated from the Jungle Fowl (the bantam probably did also). Game fowl have a wild nature about them and if left to range free, steal their nesting place and roost in trees. Some of the varities of the game fowl are, Allen Rounhead, Claret, Traveler, Madigan Grey (my favorite), Hatch, Brown Reds and many more. Many years ago, the poultry producers in an effort to enlarge the breast of marketed poultry, introduced game fowl into the breeding program, since the game fowl's breast is proportionally larger than other chickens, somewhat like what we look for when we are buying a Cornish hen for cooking. By the way for those that may not know, the Big Chicken is located on Hwy 41 in Marietta, Georgia, a KFC franchise that is built to resemble a chicken with opening beak and rolling eyes. This is the beginning landmark for locals to use when giving directions. Sometimes, if the travel can't find the Big Chicken that can't get where they are agoin. Best wishes, Earl L. Cagle, Sr.
Lee, banties were actually Bantam, a small type of chicken. Old folks just said "banties". Biddies were always baby chickens, meaning "small". Frances Davis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Cagle" <caglel1@juno.com> To: <cagle@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [CAGLE] biddy > Little chickens were called banties, at full growth they weighed > about a pound on the foot, they would dress-out to about a half > pound. A lot of them had feathers on their feet. > Anything that was said to be "itty bitty" was a tad smaller than > small. > > > Lee Cagle > Okla City > > -- BGKBVK@aol.com wrote: > Here is the real meaning of Biddy. It is a very small bedchamber pot > antiques. We also called little chickens biddies. Ha Bettye > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the > all-new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Click to get kitchen cabinets at affordable prices. > http://3rdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2111/fc/Ioyw6iifhXmuRj70CtnRxdHjSQmrY4YBtL7EkWhc0uebKPN4MaXUpR/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Goodness Gracious!!!!!! Folks we now got the chickens in the potty and no telling what will happen next, the sky may fall. Lee, down in North Georgia folk referred to bantam chickens very often as banties. As far as the chamber pot goes the nearest I can figure out someone confused biddy with bidet, look it up for a descriptive meaning. Sandra, don't start the Cagle chicken thing again, we identified Chicken George and his progenitors sometime back and you assisted most effectively. At least we are communicating, Best wishes, Earl L. Cagle, Sr.
Lee Can't resist: Banties are a breed of chickens that were bred to fight as in fight to the death. This practice still goes on and is probably older than that dog fighting. Both are disgusting. Bettye ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
FINALLY somebody brought up itty bitty - don't you people listen to country music? Didn't you ever hear the song Itty Bitty? Lee, that's a really professional answer on the little chickens. Are you kin to Cagle Chicken people or something :-) ? Sandra> From: caglel1@juno.com> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:57:19 +0000> To: cagle@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [CAGLE] biddy> > Little chickens were called banties, at full growth they weighed about a pound on the foot, they would dress-out to about a half pound. A lot of them had feathers on their feet.> Anything that was said to be "itty bitty" was a tad smaller than small.> > > Lee Cagle> Okla City> > -- BGKBVK@aol.com wrote:> Here is the real meaning of Biddy. It is a very small bedchamber pot > antiques. We also called little chickens biddies. Ha Bettye> > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > _____________________________________________________________> Click to get kitchen cabinets at affordable prices.> http://3rdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2111/fc/Ioyw6iifhXmuRj70CtnRxdHjSQmrY4YBtL7EkWhc0uebKPN4MaXUpR/> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx
Lee, Actually the chickens known as Bantie/Banry are a particular breed of chicken. The rooster of the bunch is pretty agressive - thus the saying "mad as a banty rooster". You're from OK also so probably have heard that expression. In a variation of everyone's comments - I had only heard "bitty" used as "old bitty" meaning a little, old lady who was either "a mean old bitty" or "a nosey old bitty". But "itty bitty" sounds right for a small person or child. Dana M. ---------------------------------- Little chickens were called banties, at full growth they weighed about a pound on the foot, they would dress-out to about a half pound. A lot of them had feathers on their feet. Anything that was said to be "itty bitty" was a tad smaller than small. Lee Cagle Okla City
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Thanks for your response. I saw online trees where this Mary E. Cagle was listed as born 1869 and daughter of Robert H Cagle b: 1835 in Hickman Co., TN & Caroline Brinkley? b: 22 MAR 1845 in Hickman Co., TN. However, this Mary Elizabeth (Cagle) Headrick is consistently listed as being born c 1883 TN. Here is the 1930 census listing (listed with last name of "Beadrick" by Ancestry): 1930 Knoxville, Knox Co., TN; ED 47-23, Ward 10; 1634 Detroit Ave.; 08 April; page 65 B, family 208; G. M. Clairborne, Enumerator: HEADRICK, James H., head, own, $2000, m/w, 53, married, married 1st at 23, TN/TN/TN, laborer, Railroad HEADRICK, Mary, wife, f/w, 47, married, married 1st at 18, TN/TN/TN HEADRICK, Raymond, son, m/w, 24, married, married 1st at 20, TN/TN/TN, laborer, Railroad HEADRICK, Louise, daughter-in-law, f/w, married, married 1st at 17, TN/TN/TN HEADRICK, Raymond, Jr., grandson, m/w, 1-?4/12, TN/TN/TN HEADRICK, Claude E., son, m/w, 17, single, TN/TN/TN, laborer, University HEADRICK, Mary, daughter, f/w, 13, single, TN/TN/TN Mary Lou (Cagle) Cooley -----Original Message----- From: cagle-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cagle-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ashleycagle1908@sbcglobal.net Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 10:48 AM To: cagle@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CAGLE] Mary E. Cagle, b. Aug 1882 TN Just to let you know im watching but have nothing to offer Ashley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Cooley" <mlcooley@charter.net> To: <cagle@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:28 PM Subject: [CAGLE] Mary E. Cagle, b. Aug 1882 TN > Does anyone know why this is not the daughter of William Cagle & Mary > Melinda Brewer?: > > > > CAGLE, Mary E. - HEADRICK, James Henry - married on 23-DEC-1900 in Knox > County, TN > > > > 1900 Knoxville, Knox Co., TN; ED 97, Ward 10; 1325 Dehart Ave.; 18 April; > page 95, family 119; Ernest West, Enumerator: > > HEADRICK, James H., head, m/w, 33, married 9 years, Unknown birthplace of > self & parents, laborer, River, rent > > HEADRICK, Mary, wife, f/w, 27, married 9 years, Mother of 4, 3 living, > TN/Unknown/Unknown > > HEADRICK, Stella, daughter, f/w, 6, single, TN/Unknown/TN > > HEADRICK, Ola, daughter, f/w, 4, single, TN/Unk/TN > > HEADRICK, James O., son, m/w, 1, single, TN/Unk/TN > > > > 1920 Knoxville, Knox Co., TN; ED 93, 12th C.D., Ward 10; 1634 Detroit > Ave., > 03 Jan; page 5, family 103; James Avery Rush, Enumerator: > > HEADRICK, James, head, own - mortgaged, m/w, 42, married, TN/TN/TN, > laborer, > general > > HEADRICK, Mary, wife, f/w, 37, married, TN/TN/TN > > HEADRICK, Stella, daughter, f/w, 15, M written over S, TN/TN/TN > > HEADRICK, Olof, son, m/w, 13, single, TN/TN/TN > > HEADRICK, Claude, son, m/w, 7, single, TN/TN/TN > > HEADRICK, Mary, daughter, f/w, 3, single, TN/TN/TN > > > > World War I Draft Registration Card: > > James Henry Headerick > > Permanent Home Address - 1634 Detroit, Knoxville, Knox, Tenn. > > Age in Years - 41 > > Date of Birth - Sept 2nd 1877 > > White > > Native Born > > Present Occupation - Common Labor > > Employeer's Name - H. C. Milner > > Place of Employment or Business - Sand Dredge on Tennessee River > > Nearest Relative - Mrs. Mary Elizabeth Headerick > > 1634 Detroit, Knoxville, Knox, Tenn. > > Signed by mark - James Henry Headerick > > Witness to sig - Mrs. W. Hudson > > Tall > > Medium Build > > Light Blue Eyes > > Brownish Gray Hair > > John W. Hudson, Registrar > > 12 Sept 1918 > > > > > > Thanks, > > Mary > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Just to let you know im watching but have nothing to offer Ashley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Cooley" <mlcooley@charter.net> To: <cagle@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:28 PM Subject: [CAGLE] Mary E. Cagle, b. Aug 1882 TN > Does anyone know why this is not the daughter of William Cagle & Mary > Melinda Brewer?: > > > > CAGLE, Mary E. - HEADRICK, James Henry - married on 23-DEC-1900 in Knox > County, TN > > > > 1900 Knoxville, Knox Co., TN; ED 97, Ward 10; 1325 Dehart Ave.; 18 April; > page 95, family 119; Ernest West, Enumerator: > > HEADRICK, James H., head, m/w, 33, married 9 years, Unknown birthplace of > self & parents, laborer, River, rent > > HEADRICK, Mary, wife, f/w, 27, married 9 years, Mother of 4, 3 living, > TN/Unknown/Unknown > > HEADRICK, Stella, daughter, f/w, 6, single, TN/Unknown/TN > > HEADRICK, Ola, daughter, f/w, 4, single, TN/Unk/TN > > HEADRICK, James O., son, m/w, 1, single, TN/Unk/TN > > > > 1920 Knoxville, Knox Co., TN; ED 93, 12th C.D., Ward 10; 1634 Detroit > Ave., > 03 Jan; page 5, family 103; James Avery Rush, Enumerator: > > HEADRICK, James, head, own - mortgaged, m/w, 42, married, TN/TN/TN, > laborer, > general > > HEADRICK, Mary, wife, f/w, 37, married, TN/TN/TN > > HEADRICK, Stella, daughter, f/w, 15, M written over S, TN/TN/TN > > HEADRICK, Olof, son, m/w, 13, single, TN/TN/TN > > HEADRICK, Claude, son, m/w, 7, single, TN/TN/TN > > HEADRICK, Mary, daughter, f/w, 3, single, TN/TN/TN > > > > World War I Draft Registration Card: > > James Henry Headerick > > Permanent Home Address - 1634 Detroit, Knoxville, Knox, Tenn. > > Age in Years - 41 > > Date of Birth - Sept 2nd 1877 > > White > > Native Born > > Present Occupation - Common Labor > > Employeer's Name - H. C. Milner > > Place of Employment or Business - Sand Dredge on Tennessee River > > Nearest Relative - Mrs. Mary Elizabeth Headerick > > 1634 Detroit, Knoxville, Knox, Tenn. > > Signed by mark - James Henry Headerick > > Witness to sig - Mrs. W. Hudson > > Tall > > Medium Build > > Light Blue Eyes > > Brownish Gray Hair > > John W. Hudson, Registrar > > 12 Sept 1918 > > > > > > Thanks, > > Mary > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >
According to John G Cagle's Cagle Census Record of the South, 1860 to 1910 1870 Cocke, TN: Civil Dist #13: Big Creek Depot William 22 TN Labor on Farm Maranda 22 TN Keeping House Mormen 4 TN Cintha E. 2 TN Williams father was George Cagle ca. 1823 Mother was Cynthia Cagle They are from Haywood County, NC and migrated to Cocke County, TN in 1840's Next who is the father of this George Caglw???????????? Ashley PS Last nites guess was a bust!
Now I am totally confused - I finally found both William and Miranda and Jesse and Nancy listed in the Cocke County Census for 1900 - but they're both listed with the last name of Messer. Children are the same, except Jessie also has a daughter named Finie born about the same time as Bob's wife. I checked in the 1880 census and still get Messer. Somebody please tell me what's going on. Maybe I missed something along the way. This isn't even my line and I'm frustrated. Ashley, the only reason I brought up Neverson Cagle was the similarity in the names of the children. I don't think there's a connection. Hobert actually seems pretty common back in the 1800's. Sandra> From: ashleycagle1908@sbcglobal.net> To: cagle@rootsweb.com> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 00:47:01 -0500> Subject: [CAGLE] Maranda Cagle (from Cocke County)> > Just for fun and speculation before I go to bed:> Maranda Cagle (from Cocke County)> 1869> Monroe County, Tenessee, United States of America> > Her father is> George Washington Cagle> 1844> Sundry, Monroe County, Tenessee, United States of America> aft 1910> McMinn County, Tenessee, United States of America> > His father is:> John NC Cagle> 1802> Bear Creek, Moore County, North Carolina, United States of America> aft 1882> Madisonville, Monroe, Tennessee, United States of America> > Good Nite,> ]Ashley> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <ashleycagle1908@sbcglobal.net>> To: <cagle@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 12:34 AM> Subject: Re: [CAGLE] Thanks> > > > Thanks for the reply. This one has bugged me for a long time. I always> > thought Bob was a Robert.> > As forMaranda:> > 1870 United States Federal Census> > about Maranda Cagle> > Name:Maranda Cagle> > Estimated birth year:abt 1848> > Age in 1870:22> > Birthplace:Tennessee> > Home in 1870:District 13, Cocke, Tennessee> > Family and neighbors:View Results> > Race:White> > Gender:Female> > Value of real estate:View image> > Post Office:Big Creek Depot> >> > Does not show Bill and cant read the census 1870> >> > 1910 United States Federal Census> > about Bice Cogle> > Name:Bice Cogle> > [Bill Cogle]> > Age in 1910:67> > Estimated birth year:abt 1843> > Birthplace:Tennessee> > Relation to Head of House:Head> > Father's Birth Place:Tennessee> > Mother's Birth Place:Tennessee> > Spouse's name:Maranda> > Home in 1910:Civil District 9, Cocke, Tennessee> > Marital Status:Married> > Race:White> > Gender:Male> > Neighbors:View others on page> > Household Members:NameAge> > Bice Cogle67> > Maranda Cogle67> > Robt Cogle23> > Fannie Cogle20> > Ottie Cogle> >> > Lot of time between 1870 and 1910. I dont see the Neverson connection as> > Bill and Maranda are from Tennessee.> > I did visit with the people who have the Cagle grave yard in Cocke County> > and they are going to get me an inventory.> > These people are in Cocke County but not from there. Im thinking with no> > research about Monroe County because most Cagles of East tennessee went > > thru> > there. We will see. There is no real research on this county as no one> > really> > made there home there. Had trouble even spelling there name (Cogle). > > This> > is what research is all about. Lee, if your behind a log, solve it. Ha > > Ha> >> > Ashley> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us&source=wlmailtagline
Now I am totally confused - I finally found both William and Miranda and Jesse and Nancy listed in the Cocke County Census for 1900 - but they're both listed with the last name of Messer. Children are the same, except Jessie also has a daughter named Finie born about the same time as Bob's wife. I checked in the 1880 census and still get Messer. Somebody please tell me what's going on. Maybe I missed something along the way. This isn't even my line and I'm frustrated. Ashley, the only reason I brought up Neverson Cagle was the similarity in the names of the children. I don't think there's a connection. Hobert actually seems pretty common back in the 1800's. Sandra> From: ashleycagle1908@sbcglobal.net> To: cagle@rootsweb.com> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 00:47:01 -0500> Subject: [CAGLE] Maranda Cagle (from Cocke County)> > Just for fun and speculation before I go to bed:> Maranda Cagle (from Cocke County)> 1869> Monroe County, Tenessee, United States of America> > Her father is> George Washington Cagle> 1844> Sundry, Monroe County, Tenessee, United States of America> aft 1910> McMinn County, Tenessee, United States of America> > His father is:> John NC Cagle> 1802> Bear Creek, Moore County, North Carolina, United States of America> aft 1882> Madisonville, Monroe, Tennessee, United States of America> > Good Nite,> ]Ashley> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <ashleycagle1908@sbcglobal.net>> To: <cagle@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 12:34 AM> Subject: Re: [CAGLE] Thanks> > > > Thanks for the reply. This one has bugged me for a long time. I always> > thought Bob was a Robert.> > As forMaranda:> > 1870 United States Federal Census> > about Maranda Cagle> > Name:Maranda Cagle> > Estimated birth year:abt 1848> > Age in 1870:22> > Birthplace:Tennessee> > Home in 1870:District 13, Cocke, Tennessee> > Family and neighbors:View Results> > Race:White> > Gender:Female> > Value of real estate:View image> > Post Office:Big Creek Depot> >> > Does not show Bill and cant read the census 1870> >> > 1910 United States Federal Census> > about Bice Cogle> > Name:Bice Cogle> > [Bill Cogle]> > Age in 1910:67> > Estimated birth year:abt 1843> > Birthplace:Tennessee> > Relation to Head of House:Head> > Father's Birth Place:Tennessee> > Mother's Birth Place:Tennessee> > Spouse's name:Maranda> > Home in 1910:Civil District 9, Cocke, Tennessee> > Marital Status:Married> > Race:White> > Gender:Male> > Neighbors:View others on page> > Household Members:NameAge> > Bice Cogle67> > Maranda Cogle67> > Robt Cogle23> > Fannie Cogle20> > Ottie Cogle> >> > Lot of time between 1870 and 1910. I dont see the Neverson connection as> > Bill and Maranda are from Tennessee.> > I did visit with the people who have the Cagle grave yard in Cocke County> > and they are going to get me an inventory.> > These people are in Cocke County but not from there. Im thinking with no> > research about Monroe County because most Cagles of East tennessee went > > thru> > there. We will see. There is no real research on this county as no one> > really> > made there home there. Had trouble even spelling there name (Cogle). > > This> > is what research is all about. Lee, if your behind a log, solve it. Ha > > Ha> >> > Ashley> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us&source=wlmailtagline
Chester and Cocke Co., TN are about 350 miles apart. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Stephens" <sandrastephens28@msn.com> To: <cagle@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [CAGLE] Thanks > > Ottie's grandfather is Bill Cagle and his grandmother is Maranda. He's > shown living with them along with his father (Robert or Bob) and > mother(Fanny and in later census records Finie) in the 1910 census for > Cocke Co. Tennessee. Of course they're listed under Cogle instead of > Cagle. Next door is a family headed by Jesse and Nancy J. Cagle (Cogle). > Tried to find this family in 1900 by tracing the children, but several of > their children's names are the same as Neverson Cagle's family in Chester > Tn. I don't even know if Chester Co. is close to Cocke Co. and Neverson > Cagle was from Georgia so I may not even be close. Since you're the > Tennessee expert, may some of these names mean something to you. The only > one familiar to me was Neverson because of the GA connection. But there's > his grandparents anyway. > > BTW - Earl, thank you for the package. I still say a lot of Dr. Walker's > information is way off, but he might have something about Henry Cagle. > Still checking. Again, Thanks. > > Sandra> From: ashleycagle1908@sbcglobal.net> To: cagle@rootsweb.com> Date: > Wed, 29 Aug 2007 14:44:07 -0500> Subject: [CAGLE] Thanks> > Board > Members,> > I have really enjoyed working with you the past few weeks.> > > Before I just read posts and worked on my projects. I must > > say how > much nicer it has been with everyones comments.> > I have just finished my > Knoxville canvass and talked to about 39> > different families. It was fun > in that a few really knew who I was. > > Some of them were in my Henry > line. One from> > Alabama. Two from Cocke County which is my weakest > research. > > I consider myself a specialist on Eastern Tennessee. I would > solicite> > anyone's help on Cocke County. Like> > who is Otties grand > father??? Anyone can email me direct to ashleycagle1908@sbcglobal.net> > > > Ashley> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, > please send an email to CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and th! > e body of the message > _________________________________________________________________ > Explore the seven wonders of the world > http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+world&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 8/28/2007 > 4:29 PM > >
Just for fun and speculation before I go to bed: Maranda Cagle (from Cocke County) 1869 Monroe County, Tenessee, United States of America Her father is George Washington Cagle 1844 Sundry, Monroe County, Tenessee, United States of America aft 1910 McMinn County, Tenessee, United States of America His father is: John NC Cagle 1802 Bear Creek, Moore County, North Carolina, United States of America aft 1882 Madisonville, Monroe, Tennessee, United States of America Good Nite, ]Ashley ----- Original Message ----- From: <ashleycagle1908@sbcglobal.net> To: <cagle@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 12:34 AM Subject: Re: [CAGLE] Thanks > Thanks for the reply. This one has bugged me for a long time. I always > thought Bob was a Robert. > As forMaranda: > 1870 United States Federal Census > about Maranda Cagle > Name:Maranda Cagle > Estimated birth year:abt 1848 > Age in 1870:22 > Birthplace:Tennessee > Home in 1870:District 13, Cocke, Tennessee > Family and neighbors:View Results > Race:White > Gender:Female > Value of real estate:View image > Post Office:Big Creek Depot > > Does not show Bill and cant read the census 1870 > > 1910 United States Federal Census > about Bice Cogle > Name:Bice Cogle > [Bill Cogle] > Age in 1910:67 > Estimated birth year:abt 1843 > Birthplace:Tennessee > Relation to Head of House:Head > Father's Birth Place:Tennessee > Mother's Birth Place:Tennessee > Spouse's name:Maranda > Home in 1910:Civil District 9, Cocke, Tennessee > Marital Status:Married > Race:White > Gender:Male > Neighbors:View others on page > Household Members:NameAge > Bice Cogle67 > Maranda Cogle67 > Robt Cogle23 > Fannie Cogle20 > Ottie Cogle > > Lot of time between 1870 and 1910. I dont see the Neverson connection as > Bill and Maranda are from Tennessee. > I did visit with the people who have the Cagle grave yard in Cocke County > and they are going to get me an inventory. > These people are in Cocke County but not from there. Im thinking with no > research about Monroe County because most Cagles of East tennessee went > thru > there. We will see. There is no real research on this county as no one > really > made there home there. Had trouble even spelling there name (Cogle). > This > is what research is all about. Lee, if your behind a log, solve it. Ha > Ha > > Ashley
Thanks for the reply. This one has bugged me for a long time. I always thought Bob was a Robert. As forMaranda: 1870 United States Federal Census about Maranda Cagle Name:Maranda Cagle Estimated birth year:abt 1848 Age in 1870:22 Birthplace:Tennessee Home in 1870:District 13, Cocke, Tennessee Family and neighbors:View Results Race:White Gender:Female Value of real estate:View image Post Office:Big Creek Depot Does not show Bill and cant read the census 1870 1910 United States Federal Census about Bice Cogle Name:Bice Cogle [Bill Cogle] Age in 1910:67 Estimated birth year:abt 1843 Birthplace:Tennessee Relation to Head of House:Head Father's Birth Place:Tennessee Mother's Birth Place:Tennessee Spouse's name:Maranda Home in 1910:Civil District 9, Cocke, Tennessee Marital Status:Married Race:White Gender:Male Neighbors:View others on page Household Members:NameAge Bice Cogle67 Maranda Cogle67 Robt Cogle23 Fannie Cogle20 Ottie Cogle Lot of time between 1870 and 1910. I dont see the Neverson connection as Bill and Maranda are from Tennessee. I did visit with the people who have the Cagle grave yard in Cocke County and they are going to get me an inventory. These people are in Cocke County but not from there. Im thinking with no research about Monroe County because most Cagles of East tennessee went thru there. We will see. There is no real research on this county as no one really made there home there. Had trouble even spelling there name (Cogle). This is what research is all about. Lee, if your behind a log, solve it. Ha Ha Ashley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Stephens" <sandrastephens28@msn.com> To: <cagle@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [CAGLE] Thanks > > Ottie's grandfather is Bill Cagle and his grandmother is . He's shown > living with them along with his father (Robert or Bob) and mother(Fanny > and in later census records Finie) in the 1910 census for Cocke Co. > Tennessee. Of course they're listed under Cogle instead of Cagle. Next > door is a family headed by Jesse and Nancy J. Cagle (Cogle). Tried to > find this family in 1900 by tracing the children, but several of their > children's names are the same as Neverson Cagle's family in Chester Tn. I > don't even know if Chester Co. is close to Cocke Co. and Neverson Cagle > was from Georgia so I may not even be close. Since you're the Tennessee > expert, may some of these names mean something to you. The only one > familiar to me was Neverson because of the GA connection. But there's his > grandparents anyway. > > BTW - Earl, thank you for the package. I still say a lot of Dr. Walker's > information is way off, but he might have something about Henry Cagle. > Still checking. Again, Thanks. > > Sandra> From: ashleycagle1908@sbcglobal.net> To: cagle@rootsweb.com> Date: > Wed, 29 Aug 2007 14:44:07 -0500> Subject: [CAGLE] Thanks> > Board > Members,> > I have really enjoyed working with you the past few weeks.> > > Before I just read posts and worked on my projects. I must > > say how > much nicer it has been with everyones comments.> > I have just finished my > Knoxville canvass and talked to about 39> > different families. It was fun > in that a few really knew who I was. > > Some of them were in my Henry > line. One from> > Alabama. Two from Cocke County which is my weakest > research. > > I consider myself a specialist on Eastern Tennessee. I would > solicite> > anyone's help on Cocke County. Like> > who is Otties grand > father??? Anyone can email me direct to ashleycagle1908@sbcglobal.net> > > > Ashley> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, > please send an email to CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and th! > e body of the message > _________________________________________________________________ > Explore the seven wonders of the world > http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+world&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >
Ottie's grandfather is Bill Cagle and his grandmother is Maranda. He's shown living with them along with his father (Robert or Bob) and mother(Fanny and in later census records Finie) in the 1910 census for Cocke Co. Tennessee. Of course they're listed under Cogle instead of Cagle. Next door is a family headed by Jesse and Nancy J. Cagle (Cogle). Tried to find this family in 1900 by tracing the children, but several of their children's names are the same as Neverson Cagle's family in Chester Tn. I don't even know if Chester Co. is close to Cocke Co. and Neverson Cagle was from Georgia so I may not even be close. Since you're the Tennessee expert, may some of these names mean something to you. The only one familiar to me was Neverson because of the GA connection. But there's his grandparents anyway. BTW - Earl, thank you for the package. I still say a lot of Dr. Walker's information is way off, but he might have something about Henry Cagle. Still checking. Again, Thanks. Sandra> From: ashleycagle1908@sbcglobal.net> To: cagle@rootsweb.com> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 14:44:07 -0500> Subject: [CAGLE] Thanks> > Board Members,> > I have really enjoyed working with you the past few weeks.> > Before I just read posts and worked on my projects. I must > > say how much nicer it has been with everyones comments.> > I have just finished my Knoxville canvass and talked to about 39> > different families. It was fun in that a few really knew who I was. > > Some of them were in my Henry line. One from> > Alabama. Two from Cocke County which is my weakest research. > > I consider myself a specialist on Eastern Tennessee. I would solicite> > anyone's help on Cocke County. Like> > who is Otties grand father??? Anyone can email me direct to ashleycagle1908@sbcglobal.net> > > Ashley> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Explore the seven wonders of the world http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+world&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE
Does anyone know why this is not the daughter of William Cagle & Mary Melinda Brewer?: CAGLE, Mary E. - HEADRICK, James Henry - married on 23-DEC-1900 in Knox County, TN 1900 Knoxville, Knox Co., TN; ED 97, Ward 10; 1325 Dehart Ave.; 18 April; page 95, family 119; Ernest West, Enumerator: HEADRICK, James H., head, m/w, 33, married 9 years, Unknown birthplace of self & parents, laborer, River, rent HEADRICK, Mary, wife, f/w, 27, married 9 years, Mother of 4, 3 living, TN/Unknown/Unknown HEADRICK, Stella, daughter, f/w, 6, single, TN/Unknown/TN HEADRICK, Ola, daughter, f/w, 4, single, TN/Unk/TN HEADRICK, James O., son, m/w, 1, single, TN/Unk/TN 1920 Knoxville, Knox Co., TN; ED 93, 12th C.D., Ward 10; 1634 Detroit Ave., 03 Jan; page 5, family 103; James Avery Rush, Enumerator: HEADRICK, James, head, own - mortgaged, m/w, 42, married, TN/TN/TN, laborer, general HEADRICK, Mary, wife, f/w, 37, married, TN/TN/TN HEADRICK, Stella, daughter, f/w, 15, M written over S, TN/TN/TN HEADRICK, Olof, son, m/w, 13, single, TN/TN/TN HEADRICK, Claude, son, m/w, 7, single, TN/TN/TN HEADRICK, Mary, daughter, f/w, 3, single, TN/TN/TN World War I Draft Registration Card: James Henry Headerick Permanent Home Address - 1634 Detroit, Knoxville, Knox, Tenn. Age in Years - 41 Date of Birth - Sept 2nd 1877 White Native Born Present Occupation - Common Labor Employeer's Name - H. C. Milner Place of Employment or Business - Sand Dredge on Tennessee River Nearest Relative - Mrs. Mary Elizabeth Headerick 1634 Detroit, Knoxville, Knox, Tenn. Signed by mark - James Henry Headerick Witness to sig - Mrs. W. Hudson Tall Medium Build Light Blue Eyes Brownish Gray Hair John W. Hudson, Registrar 12 Sept 1918 Thanks, Mary
Can anyone tell me how we know that the "E." in Mary E. Cagle stands for "Elizabeth"? This is the Mary E. Cagle, b. Aug 1882 TN to William Cagle & Mary Melinda Brewer. Thanks, Mary
Anyone can email me direct to ashleycagle1908@sbcglobal.net Ashley, Keep it on the board, we are all interested even though we don't comment sometimes. I also have Tennessee Cagle connections and know a bit about the Cagles in the southeast part of west Tennessee here along the Tennessee river. David ----- Original Message ----- From: <ashleycagle1908@sbcglobal.net> To: <cagle@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 2:44 PM Subject: [CAGLE] Thanks > Board Members, > > I have really enjoyed working with you the past few weeks. > > Before I just read posts and worked on my projects. I must > > say how much nicer it has been with everyones comments. > > I have just finished my Knoxville canvass and talked to about 39 > > different families. It was fun in that a few really knew who I was. > > Some of them were in my Henry line. One from > > Alabama. Two from Cocke County which is my weakest research. > > I consider myself a specialist on Eastern Tennessee. I would solicite > > anyone's help on Cocke County. Like > > who is Otties grand father??? Anyone can email me direct to > ashleycagle1908@sbcglobal.net > > > Ashley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAGLE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 8/28/2007 > 4:29 PM > >