Jodie, We know that David was born in Germany in 1728, the son of Leonhart and wife Susanna Kegel. Henry Cagle, Sr., d. 1802 Moore Co., NC, had a son William Cagle who was born in 1754 in NC, and died in Sevier Co., TN after 1850. Although possible, it is not probable that you could squeeze these two generations into a 26 year span, David and Henry each having a son at age 13, or some combination to make 26 years. More likely David and Henry, Sr. were brothers. If my assumptions are correct, and I am relying on others heavily, David, b. 1728, Ger., d. 1784-90 Cabarrus Co., NC, did have a son Henry Cagle, Sr., b. ca 1760, d. after 1837, perhaps in Hardin Co. TN. This Henry, Sr. lived in Mecklenburg Co., NC in 1790, then for many years in Cabarrus and Montgomery Co., NC. He was shown on the 1833 Tax List of Hardin Co., TN, filed for vacant land there in 1837, but never completed the process to get title to the land. David Hardin Co., TN JShepgolfs@aol.com wrote: > What if david were the son of leonhart and the father of henry? or your > assumption going by a time line would be correct that david is a brother? > anyone have a martin after peter & rachel? > thank > jodie

Sandra wrote: Hi List, wanted to share with you that due to all your endless work and helping each other, we have found relatives of my husband which will make our tree grow tremendously. We have per Internet and Phone reunited with relatives in Califonia and found the only living relative from the generation we thought were all gone. Of course our research is only starting now, but it is hard to describe when you look at the screen and suddenly see someone who was long forgotten. The exitement ran high and many doors opened up. Just wanted to thank everyone for all their help. My husband is very touched by all of this and now he is definatley hooked and even went to the library with me today. Good hunting everyone Sandra ________________ Sandra & List, We are all happy to have helped you connect. Your new found relatives in California, may help even more. You & your husband are off to a great start. Now that your husband is "hooked" on genealogy, the hook will be hard to remove:) Earl

David - my paltry kingdom for a resolution of the folks in Leonard Kegell's family. A baby step, but necessary for the next one! John -----Original Message----- From: David Cagle <dcagle@centuryinter.net> To: CAGLE-L@rootsweb.com <CAGLE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 8:14 AM Subject: Re: Cherokee County Georgia Genealogy Home Page >John, >Looks like your still digging on this Cagle bunch. I don't believe that David >and Rachel fits into the line you have below. I thought the line ran as >follows: > Leonard, b. 1684 > Henry Sr., d. 1802 Moore Co., NC > Peter, ca 1775-1842. > >I had considered David to be a brother of Henry, Sr.? > >I hope someone that knows the German language comes up with another meaning of >CAGLE, KEGILL, KAIGLE, whatever, that is a little better than Cone or Pin? I >once saw a definition that mentioned stumps or stubs or something like that. > >Keep up the good work, > >David >Hardin Co., TN > > >John Speight wrote: > >> Those Cagles in Cherokee Co, GA would be descendants of Peter Cagle , b. abt >> 1775-1842. He married Rachel Boling (from Moore Co, NC. Peter was son of >> Henry Cagle and Caterina Seitz/Sides and grandson of David and Rachel Cagle >> and great grandson of Leonard and Susanna Kegell. >> John Speight >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Earl Cagle <earl1947@webtv.net> >> To: CAGLE-L@rootsweb.com <CAGLE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Date: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 9:24 PM >> Subject: Cherokee County Georgia Genealogy Home Page >> >> --WebTV-Mail-811929131-391 >> Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable >> >> Sheree wrote: >> ______________________ >> >> Hello, >> =A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0 I am new to genealogy research. The only info I have is >> what my grandparents remember. I have a Zola Cagle b. 8-2-1881 d. >> 8-27-1970 married Joseph Champion Parker bb. 11-24-86 d. 3-2-1963. They >> raised 6 children in Canton, Cherokee Co., Ga. If anyone recognizes the >> name or if anyone can give me any advice on where to start looking >> please let me know. >> Sheree >> ______________________ >> Sheree & List, >> First of all welcome to the Cagle mail list. We all >> were new to geealogy at one time. >> However, we have a great group of people on our >> list. There will be others on the list to help you >> with your, Georgia Cagle's. >> For now here is the link to Cherokee Co; GA's >> UsGenweb page. Here you will find links to all >> sorts of records. Marriage, Census, Land, Death, >> and other records are all there. These people have >> done a great job, and you will find alot of Cagle, >> data there. The link to their great site is listed at >> the bottom of this message. Good luck Sheree, >> in your Cagle, research. >> Earl Cagle >> List Owner : CAGLE-L >> >> --WebTV-Mail-811929131-391 >> X-URL-Title: Cherokee County Georgia Genealogy Home Page >> Content-Disposition: Inline >> Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit >> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacherok/index.html >> >> --WebTV-Mail-811929131-391-- >> >> ==== CAGLE Mailing List ==== >> >> Rootswb Internet Genealogy At It's Best >> http://www.rootsweb.com/ >> >> ==== CAGLE Mailing List ==== >> >> UsGenWeb Archives Search Page >> Find records on your ancestors >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ussearch.htm > > > > >==== CAGLE Mailing List ==== >Cyndi's List Of Geneaogy Sites On the Net >http://www.cyndislist.com/ > >

David Cagle wrote: <snip> I had considered David to be a brother of Henry, Sr.? I hope someone that knows the German language comes up with another meaning of CAGLE, KEGILL, KAIGLE, whatever, that is a little better than Cone or Pin? I once saw a definition that mentioned stumps or stubs or something like that. Keep up the good work, David Hardin Co., TN ___________________ David & List, Yes, David & Henry Sr; are sons of Leonhart Kegel. This theory of how Kegel's, got there surname is one theory. The other is the maker of Keg's i.e. Barrell Maker, Beer & Whiskey. Germans are world known for their beer making. In my search of Cagle's, I came across these that came from "Passenger and Immigration Lists Index" by William Filby & Mary K.Meyer: Kegeler, John G. Philadelphia, PA 1827 Kegelin, Maria " " 1795 Kegelman, Leonhard age 35 England and or America 1709, with wife, son age 9, daughter age 6. Kegel, Herman Philadelphia, PA 1860 Kegel, M. Barb " " 1753 Kegel, Thomas " " 1750 Kegel, Thomas w/son " " 1805 The only ones I have had time to look up source data for are: Maria Kegelin, arrived Philadelphia. Pa; 11-17-1795. The ships name was "Brig, Friendship" from Amsterdam. Nathan Clark, Master. Thomas Kegel w/son, Philadelphia, Pa; Ship "Little Cherub". Arrived 10-18-1805, Daniel Brewton master. Now here is my question to all on the list for open discussion. All of these peoples names are Kegel, or start with, Kegel. Are these all variations of the same surname, or different surnames? Earl

John, Looks like your still digging on this Cagle bunch. I don't believe that David and Rachel fits into the line you have below. I thought the line ran as follows: Leonard, b. 1684 Henry Sr., d. 1802 Moore Co., NC Peter, ca 1775-1842. I had considered David to be a brother of Henry, Sr.? I hope someone that knows the German language comes up with another meaning of CAGLE, KEGILL, KAIGLE, whatever, that is a little better than Cone or Pin? I once saw a definition that mentioned stumps or stubs or something like that. Keep up the good work, David Hardin Co., TN John Speight wrote: > Those Cagles in Cherokee Co, GA would be descendants of Peter Cagle , b. abt > 1775-1842. He married Rachel Boling (from Moore Co, NC. Peter was son of > Henry Cagle and Caterina Seitz/Sides and grandson of David and Rachel Cagle > and great grandson of Leonard and Susanna Kegell. > John Speight > -----Original Message----- > From: Earl Cagle <earl1947@webtv.net> > To: CAGLE-L@rootsweb.com <CAGLE-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 9:24 PM > Subject: Cherokee County Georgia Genealogy Home Page > > --WebTV-Mail-811929131-391 > Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable > > Sheree wrote: > ______________________ > > Hello, > =A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0 I am new to genealogy research. The only info I have is > what my grandparents remember. I have a Zola Cagle b. 8-2-1881 d. > 8-27-1970 married Joseph Champion Parker bb. 11-24-86 d. 3-2-1963. They > raised 6 children in Canton, Cherokee Co., Ga. If anyone recognizes the > name or if anyone can give me any advice on where to start looking > please let me know. > Sheree > ______________________ > Sheree & List, > First of all welcome to the Cagle mail list. We all > were new to geealogy at one time. > However, we have a great group of people on our > list. There will be others on the list to help you > with your, Georgia Cagle's. > For now here is the link to Cherokee Co; GA's > UsGenweb page. Here you will find links to all > sorts of records. Marriage, Census, Land, Death, > and other records are all there. These people have > done a great job, and you will find alot of Cagle, > data there. The link to their great site is listed at > the bottom of this message. Good luck Sheree, > in your Cagle, research. > Earl Cagle > List Owner : CAGLE-L > > --WebTV-Mail-811929131-391 > X-URL-Title: Cherokee County Georgia Genealogy Home Page > Content-Disposition: Inline > Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacherok/index.html > > --WebTV-Mail-811929131-391-- > > ==== CAGLE Mailing List ==== > > Rootswb Internet Genealogy At It's Best > http://www.rootsweb.com/ > > ==== CAGLE Mailing List ==== > > UsGenWeb Archives Search Page > Find records on your ancestors > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ussearch.htm

Hi List, I am certainly not trying to insult anyone about the cones. It's just that german is my language and that is what I know. I'm glad Betty King found a nicer explanation. Go Betty!!! Sandra Bertholomey (tha'ts a name, huh, no not Barthalomew.....Bertholomey) I bet that was mispelled over the years

Dear List, I couldn't help but laugh at all the supposed meanings of Kegel. Cone! I think of a cone as a cone on a fur tree. The fur tree being a beautiful strong tree, sheltering birds, lending itself to be a Christmas tree of delight. The cone seeds being food for the birds and other precious animals of the forest. When winter comes, ice gleaming on the cones. The cones brought into the house, for their fragrant smell and beautiful decoration. The Cagle descendants I have known, are like the beautiful fur tree, bearing seeds in the cones and becoming strong, enduring, giving, and unselfish. Betty King

If Kegel means Cone, then think of the bowing pins as cones or cone-shaped in the early days of the sport. But why would someone take that as a surname? Hmm. John Speight -----Original Message----- From: Ladyflixi@aol.com <Ladyflixi@aol.com> To: CAGLE-L@rootsweb.com <CAGLE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 10:29 PM Subject: Cagle-Kegler >I think my E-Mail did not arrive: >Here is the translation from a native German (me) >Kegler is the Bowler >kegeln means bowling >Kegel is the Cone > >I never liked the show with the Coneheads, but I guess we better realize we >are Coneheads??????? (Ha,ha) >Sandra > > >==== CAGLE Mailing List ==== >Cyndi's List Of Geneaogy Sites On the Net >http://www.cyndislist.com/ > >

Those Cagles in Cherokee Co, GA would be descendants of Peter Cagle , b. abt 1775-1842. He married Rachel Boling (from Moore Co, NC. Peter was son of Henry Cagle and Caterina Seitz/Sides and grandson of David and Rachel Cagle and great grandson of Leonard and Susanna Kegell. John Speight -----Original Message----- From: Earl Cagle <earl1947@webtv.net> To: CAGLE-L@rootsweb.com <CAGLE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 9:24 PM Subject: Cherokee County Georgia Genealogy Home Page --WebTV-Mail-811929131-391 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Sheree wrote: ______________________ Hello, =A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0 I am new to genealogy research. The only info I have is what my grandparents remember. I have a Zola Cagle b. 8-2-1881 d. 8-27-1970 married Joseph Champion Parker bb. 11-24-86 d. 3-2-1963. They raised 6 children in Canton, Cherokee Co., Ga. If anyone recognizes the name or if anyone can give me any advice on where to start looking please let me know. Sheree ______________________ Sheree & List, First of all welcome to the Cagle mail list. We all were new to geealogy at one time. However, we have a great group of people on our list. There will be others on the list to help you with your, Georgia Cagle's. For now here is the link to Cherokee Co; GA's UsGenweb page. Here you will find links to all sorts of records. Marriage, Census, Land, Death, and other records are all there. These people have done a great job, and you will find alot of Cagle, data there. The link to their great site is listed at the bottom of this message. Good luck Sheree, in your Cagle, research. Earl Cagle List Owner : CAGLE-L --WebTV-Mail-811929131-391 X-URL-Title: Cherokee County Georgia Genealogy Home Page Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacherok/index.html --WebTV-Mail-811929131-391-- ==== CAGLE Mailing List ==== Rootswb Internet Genealogy At It's Best http://www.rootsweb.com/

Gary, a long time ago I had heard the word Cagle meant "waggonmaster." And that was before I knew about the word, Kegel. Until later, Mary Ann Brown maryann@wxs.com -----Original Message----- From: THE CAGLE FAMILY <cagle@toolcity.net> To: CAGLE-L@rootsweb.com <CAGLE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 7:31 PM Subject: Kegel as Bowlers >Gary wrote, >I was told years ago that Kegel was a name that derived from Keglar, a >german form of bowling from the German Black Forest. Does anyone have >any info to substantiate my hearsay.? > > >Gary, > >I've heard the same thing over the years. I got out my old college German >dictionary and the German word for bowl is Kegeln. Kegel is a masculine >noun meaning cone. Fortunately, I have never been called one of the >original "coneheads" > >I have also heard that a Kegeler was a barrel maker. Has anyone ever heard >that? > >Tom >Saegertown, PA > > > >==== CAGLE Mailing List ==== > >Your help to fellow Cagle researchers, is >very much appreciated. Thank you. > >

Sandra wrote: __________________ Hi List, just me again Who knows anything about the Cagle family crest??? many thanks sandra _________________ Sandra & List, To my knowledge no such crest exists. Anyone who has been reearching Cagle's, for very long will tell you the same thing. These places that sell family crests, were around long before I was born, and I will be 52 this month. Alot of people have bought these family crests. But they are not authentic, so save your money. There may well be a Kegel Family Crest, but these places don't know what they look like. Earl

--WebTV-Mail-811929131-391 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Sheree wrote: ______________________ Hello, =A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0 I am new to genealogy research. The only info I have is what my grandparents remember. I have a Zola Cagle b. 8-2-1881 d. 8-27-1970 married Joseph Champion Parker bb. 11-24-86 d. 3-2-1963. They raised 6 children in Canton, Cherokee Co., Ga. If anyone recognizes the name or if anyone can give me any advice on where to start looking please let me know. Sheree ______________________ Sheree & List, First of all welcome to the Cagle mail list. We all were new to geealogy at one time. However, we have a great group of people on our list. There will be others on the list to help you with your, Georgia Cagle's. For now here is the link to Cherokee Co; GA's UsGenweb page. Here you will find links to all sorts of records. Marriage, Census, Land, Death, and other records are all there. These people have done a great job, and you will find alot of Cagle, data there. The link to their great site is listed at the bottom of this message. Good luck Sheree, in your Cagle, research. Earl Cagle List Owner : CAGLE-L --WebTV-Mail-811929131-391 X-URL-Title: Cherokee County Georgia Genealogy Home Page Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit http://www.rootsweb.com/~gacherok/index.html --WebTV-Mail-811929131-391--

Hello, I am new to genealogy research. The only info I have is what my grandparents remember. I have a Zola Cagle b. 8-2-1881 d. 8-27-1970 married Joseph Champion Parker bb. 11-24-86 d. 3-2-1963. They raised 6 children in Canton, Cherokee Co., Ga. If anyone recognizes the name or if anyone can give me any advice on where to start looking please let me know. Sheree

LaMona wrote: ______________ Hello Cagle Cousins: I took this marriage from my book Bedford County, VA, Jacob Eclols maried Mary Cagel July 7, 1761,Surety Peter Nerdeman LaMona ______________ Lamona & List, Great find LaMona, as this places Cagle's in VA, in the 1760's. John G.Cagle in his newsletters, has had a theory about a early group of Cagle's, in VA. We need to do a follow up on John's work, and see if a Jacob Eclols, is mentioned. There were several surnames mentioned, and I can't recall what County in VA. Earl

Thanks go to John Speight, for placing these Cagles, of Clay Co; IN. Great work John, and this will make some folks research alot easier. Earl

Earl and List, Larry Chesebro at http://www.inlink.com/~lana-stl has a crest on his page. he was kind enough to enlarge it a bit and his sister-on-law send me a something with a little history on it. Not much, but my husband keeps on having something in the back of his old mind about a crest. It has a darker color horn and a lighter color horn and he says, that his Mom used to tell him about the black and the white sheeps of the Cagle's?????????????????????????? Maybe no connections, but it is driving him nuts anyway. Maybe we can ask Larry's sister-in-law to attach it to our mail or if anyone else is interested to contact Larry. Happy hunting Sandra

I think my E-Mail did not arrive: Here is the translation from a native German (me) Kegler is the Bowler kegeln means bowling Kegel is the Cone I never liked the show with the Coneheads, but I guess we better realize we are Coneheads??????? (Ha,ha) Sandra

Ladyflixi@aol.com wrote: > > I think my E-Mail did not arrive: > Here is the translation from a native German (me) > Kegler is the Bowler > kegeln means bowling > Kegel is the Cone > > I never liked the show with the Coneheads, but I guess we better realize we > are Coneheads??????? (Ha,ha) > Sandra I believe the "cone" (Kegel) is what we would call the "pin" in American English (the object that is knocked down by the ball). Maybe we are Pinheads? Merritt

Hi List, just me again Who knows anything about the Cagle family crest??? many thanks sandra

Hi List, wanted to share with you that due to all your endless work and helping each other, we have found relatives of my husband which will make our tree grow tremendously. We have per Internet and Phone reunited with relatives in Califonia and found the only living relative from the generation we thought were all gone. Of course our research is only starting now, but it is hard to describe when you look at the screen and suddenly see someone who was long forgotten. The exitement ran high and many doors opened up. Just wanted to thank everyone for all their help. My husband is very touched by all of this and now he is definatley hooked and even went to the library with me today. Good hunting everyone Sandra