Hi group have been talking with this lady only about two or three days now and have a connection with two of the family here . there is a 3rd one John b. 1813 married Sarah unknown look at the names of the children . I have see these names before. maybe from one of you in the group Nancy jane Tarzana , Ca April 1945 P.S. the one in the bold print are in my family line, so far . Hill/Cagle Date: 10/15/1999 10:03:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time From: vixen@gate.net (Jacqueline Bower) To: Njbalmer@aol.com Thanks so much for all the Cagle information. I'm still reading through it to see how it "fits" with my data base. I don't have definitive proof that Andrew Jackson Hill, b. 4/25/1816 in Warren Co., TN is the husband of Eliza Cagle, but it seems very likely based on his name, age and place of birth. I did not have any information on who he married or children, but I would think we should be able to find a marriage record somewhere in Warren Co. I made a research trip to McMinnville, Warren Co., TN about two years ago and found a huge file of HILL information that I copied (it took me two days at the Magnuss Library) and have been going through it ever since. Among some of the papers I found a xerox copy of a thin, stern looking woman with the handwritten notes: "Martha Alice Taylor Cagle Hill; married 1) John David Cagle, married 2) James Calvin Hill. Mother of Isaac Benjamin Jacob Cagle, Andrew Jackson Cagle, Thomas Jefferson Cagle, and Mary Jane Hill." There was no date on the paper, but the name of the researcher was: Linda Lou Campbell, 1576A Hurricane Rd., New Market, AL 35761. Home phone: 205-379-3530, work 205-895-5880. I have never tried to call or write. They may or may not be current numbers. I don't know who James Calvin Hill is or how these Cagles and Hills fit with what I already have. Perhaps you do? The other Cagle information I have in my files is this: John Cagle, b. 1813 TN, married Sarah Unknown. 11 children; 1. James Cagle, b. 1830 2. Leonard Cagle, b. 1831 3. Mary A. Cagle, b. 1833 4. Jacob Cagle, b. 1836 5. Charles Cagle, b. 1838 6. Thomas J. Cagle, b. 1840 7. Elizabeth Cagle, b. 1842 8. John Cagle, b. 1844 9. Abraham Cagle, b. 1845 10. William Cagle, b. 1847 11. Washington Cagle, b. 1850 Son, Thomas J. Cagle, b. 1840 TN, married Rebecca Hill, b. 1848 TN. daughter of Montique Pleasant Hill, b. 1826 TN, d. 1854 Warren Co., TN, and his wife, Sarah "Sally" Taylor, b. 1828 TN. Montique was in turn, the son of Benjamin J. Hill b. 1783 NC, d. May 1852 Warren Co., TN, married Rebecca Wallace, b. 1783 SC. And finally, Benjamin J. Hill, was another of the sons of Isaac Hill Sr., b. 1748 MD, who later settled in Warren Co. TN and is buried on his property there. Then I have another Elizabeth Cagle, no dates of birth/death, who married Asa Hill before 1827 in Warren Co., TN, no dates of birth/death, but I do know this Asa Hill was the son of Asa Hill, Sr., b. June 18, 1799 NC, and Louvisa Hill, b. 1802 GA. Asa Hill, Sr. was the son of Henry John Alexander Hill, b. 1774, d. 1825 and Susannah Swales. Henry John Alexander Hill's father was Isaac Hill, Sr., b. 1748. Asa married his grandfather's (Isaac Sr.) step-daughter, Louvisa Hill, daughter by Wm. Hill, and Lydia White Hill Jones, his grandfather's second wife. Louvisa and Asa were thus, not actually blood related. Do any of these Cagle/Hill unions and names sound familiar to you? I have more on some of them if they fit anywhere you can see. I will start trying to find a marriage record for Andrew J. Hill and Eliza Hill. I do believe this is the Hill you seek. I'll stay in touch. Regards, Jackie

Earl, This Paul Cagle was born in N.C. and grew up in Tn. He was the son of Robert Cagle a brother to the Paul Cagle that went to Mo. Paul married Sarah Kate Tipton d/o William and Margaret Tipton. The child in the census is Elizabeth born in 1826 or 27. In the 1840s they were in Madison Co Ms and were in Attala Co for the remainder of their lives.I have watched the list for mention of them but never saw anything. His daughter Adaline married Amos T. Allen and they were my gg grandparents. Thanks, Yvonne Simpson

List Sorry that I sent my Fox census page to the Cagle list. The Clear Creek area of KY is where the Fox, my g-grandfather, that married Laura M Cagle came from. I just fishing for relatives. Jay Childress

Hello List, The 1830 McNairy Co; Tn; census has just been uploaded to rootsweb. There was one Cagle family, as shown below. Cagle, Paul was listed in the 20-30 age bracket. His wife was also listed in the 20-30 age bracket. They also had a daughter listed in the 0-5 bracket. Anyone have any additional data on this family? Earl

Does anyone know where in Brecknock Twp. Berks Co, Leonhart had land. The reason I ask is the Berks Co has posted 1876 land maps with owners names and among the names is the Kachel name. For those of you who might want to take a look the URL for the maps is below. Just select the one for Brecknock. I have tried to check others but I was getting cross-eyed!!!! The Kachle I found is just above School District #2. It also looks like other Kachel's just east of the Kinti Pinnacle but they were harder to read. Possible descendents residing on the land???? URL: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/berksp/twps.htm Tom Cagle

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------12E5ABE522549217116BB80A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To Earl and List The attached letter I sent to Mary Jane a few days ago addressing the point of you latest note about two marriages for H.P. Cagle. Jay Childress --------------12E5ABE522549217116BB80A Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Message-ID: <38034A05.11F73F41@icx.net> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 10:47:33 -0400 From: Joseph Childress <tndrjay@icx.net> Reply-To: tndrjay@icx.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nancy Jane Balmer <Njbalmer@aol.com> Subject: Cagles Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello again Several weeks ago we were discussing the family of Henry P Cagle and perhaps him having more than two wives. It may well be that at least one more or perhaps even two more wives can be found in the new Missouri Marriage Index site. I had Henry P as being married to Catherine Stokes and of her being the mother of my g-grandmother Laura M. Cagle b c1778 in IL. My cousin Rhonda, a younger daughter of Laura's last living child, told me that her Mom was not sure if Laura's father was a Stokes or a Warner. She said it may be the other way around. In the new site we find H.P. Cagle m Catherine Warner 8 24 1865. This fits with the gap in the birth of his children as the 1870 census has a 7 year period of no births. The county of the marriage, Johnson Co., is the same location where Henry P's brother Isaac R. was found living in 1880. Moreover there are a couple of marriages for Isaac R. in the new index. Besides Catherine there is a marriage for H. P. Cagle to Mary J. Cagle on 4 2 1864. Did he perhaps remarry the first wife, Mary Priest, who was the mother of the son James. It seem there must have been at least three marriages, but could have even been a 4th. I feel comfortable assigning the last five children to Catherine Warner and the 4 children Joseph to John to an unknown wife. Regards Joseph "Jay" Childress --------------12E5ABE522549217116BB80A--

Cagle BETHEL MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH No.2 - Winston Co., AL South of Haleyville, Winston County, Al. on Hwy 13 turn left on county road 28 go 1 mile turn right. Go about .8 mile church is on the right. CAGLE, inf. son of Mr. & Mrs. Westley Cagle B&D 4/15/1924 CAGLE, Dovie Sarah 2/5/1915 - 7/25/1961 CAGLE, James Athel 5/29/1907 - 12/27/1995 CAGLE, Harve son of Malisie Oliver Cagle 1905 - 1/24/1926 CAGLE, Herman T. son of Mr. & Mrs. Westley Cagle 3/10/1929 - 8/12/1929 CAGLE, James Westley 2/3/1902 - 6/5/1984 CAGLE, Lucille 8/22/1926 - 1/8/1988 CAGLE, Margete 12/23/1867 - 3/30/1926 CAGLE, Mary Viola 2/9/1906 - 7/19/1963 NEW PROSPECT BAPTIST CHURCH - Winston Co., AL North east of Haleyville, Winston County, Al. on Hwy 195. Turn at the New Prospect Church sign. The sign is on the north west side of the road. East Side CAGLE, inf. baby 2/22/1915 CAGLE, Helen Janet 2/2/1926 - 4/29/1926 CAGLE, John 1818 - 1886 CAGLE, John I. 1/6/1818 - 3/26/1888 CAGLE, Johney 3/6/1858 - 10/10/1858 CAGLE, M. Exa 11/25/1890 - 3/27/1972 CAGLE, M.J. 5/17/1824 - 12/30/1912 CAGLE, S.D. wife of M. Cagle 8/27/18?? - 2/8/1921 Bethel Cemtery (part 1) _ Colbert Co., AL Bethel also known as Old Bethel Cemetery in Colbert County Alabama 15 Cagle Lavina Sep. 11, 1827 Nov. 8, 1872 Wife of John Cagle ROCKY SPRINGS CEMETERY, JACKSON COUNTY, ALABAMA ROY G. CAGLE 9-27-1921 5-30-1979 PVT US ARMY WWII LILLIE M. CAGLE 3-19-1919 N/A UNION GROVE MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH - Winston Co., AL >From Double Springs, Winston County, Al. go west on Hwy 278 for 6.6 miles, turn right on county road 20. Cemetery is less than a mile. West side of Road by the Church CAGLE, E.F. 12/25/1860 - 12/27/1943 CAGLE, M.E. 11/4/1854 - 10/5/1927 Nancy Jane Tarzana, CA April 1945

Hi Cagle cousins, Maybe someone here canm help this lady. I only have the one Stokes so far in my database, and having recently lost all my source data, cannot help her much yet. My paper files are still intact but it takes awhile to re-enter 6700 research notes. (g) PS: RootsWeb is offering free UNLIMITEED webspace to all comers. I have already set up a mirror website for the gathering place. ========================================================= FREE UNLIMITED Web space at RootsWeb! >Any subject: genealogy, computers, pets! Get your Freepages account today: >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi ============================================================ Best wishes to all, Doyle ============================================================ >From: DelanieJ@aol.com >Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 18:15:24 EDT >Subject: Levene Stokes >To: dwchambers@mindspring.com >X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 > >Greetings! Was looking at your Genealogy files and came across Levene STOKES >married to John Cagle. Can you tell me about her? I'm a descendant of >William Henry STOKES of Winston Co., AL. He's the brother to James Stokes of >Marion County. They were raised in Warren County, TN. THey are the sons of >Thomas STOKES who moved from GA to TN. The STOKES and CAGLES moved together >a lot. Thomas came to Warren Co., TN along with the Hills & Lovetts it >appears. > >I'm wondering if Lavena might be a sister to William & James. I've never run >across her before. I'd love to know what you know about her, where you came >across her surname, etc. > >Below is the outline for Thomas STOKES in case that helps any. We know that >William, James & Alfred are sons of Thomas. We're pretty darn sure that >Allen & Young are too. There might be another son, Loyd as well. > >Descendants of Thomas Stokes > > 1 Thomas Stokes b: Bet. 1770 - 1775 >.. +Unknown b: Bet. 1780 - 1790 in SC >....... 2 Allen? Stokes b: April 01, 1800 in GA >........... +Susan Goodwin >....... 2 James Stokes b: Abt. 1810 in GA >........... +Milly Cagle b: Abt. 1810 in NC >....... 2 UnknownF2 Stokes b: Bet. 1810 - 1815 >....... 2 William Henry Stokes b: September 08, 1813 in GA >........... +Mary Margaret Cagle aka: Polly b: 1818 in NC >....... *2nd Wife of William Henry Stokes: >........... +Mary b: 1841 in SC >....... 2 Alfred B. Stokes b: 1815 in Warren Co., TN >........... +Mary M. b: 1823 in NC >....... 2 Young Stokes b: Abt. 1816 >........... +Barbara Gross b: Abt. 1810 in North Carolina, USA >....... 2 UnknownF1 Stokes b: Bet. 1816 - 1820 >....... 2 Henry? Stokes b: Abt. 1820 in TN >........... +Mary A. b: 1825 in GA >....... 2 UnknownF4 Stokes b: Bet. 1820 - 1825 >....... 2 UnknownM7 Stokes b: Bet. 1825 - 1830 >....... 2 UnknownF5 Stokes b: Bet. 1826 - 1830 > > >Delanie Alcorn-Jones >Colleyville, TX > > > Family site: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/7886 Gendex Site: http://www.my-ged.com/sterkkn

Jay & List, There were two marriages listed for, Henry P.Cagle. Illinois State Marriage Database CAGLE, H P WARNER, CATHERINE JOHNSON 08/24/1865 A/ 486 CAGLE, H P CAGLE, MARY J JOHNSON 04/02/1864 A/ 377 Does anyone on the list know who Mary J.Cagle, was? This Illinois marriage database was a real find. Wish some other states would do this also. Earl

Hi List, Nancy Jane, and Rhonda I just got back from the McClung research center here in Knoxville and I found something that may be of interest. As the 1870 and 1880 census had Henry P Cagle's wife Catherine as being born in Tennessee, I wanted to look at the 1850 census to see if there was a Warner family who would have a child Catherine of about 5 years of age. I found in the index the following: 659-847 Marion Co, TN Warner, James 38, Eliza 34, Anna 14, John 16, Thomas 12, Mary 10, Melinda 6, Cathanne 4, Ruth, Sarah 7/12 Parents born in Ireland. I am having the microfilm reproduced so I can see it better. Marion Co like Warren Co, were so many of the Cagle's lived, is in the southern part of middle TN. I do not know if this 4 yo Cathanne could be the 25 yo Catherine in 1870 and the 37 yo Catherine in 1880, but it is worth following. There was no James Warner in TN in 1860 so the family moved or lost a husband. The migration patters out of this area is into AL and westward to MS, AK, MO and for the Cagles, IL can be included. I looked for James in AK and MO but not MS, as yet, nor info available in IL, only Chicago. I will go to the original census the next chance I get to see if any of the 3 James I found have a matching family that could have ended up in Johnson Co., IL in 1865 where Henry P is suppose to have married Catherine. Rhonda, if you are going to find an American Indian connection with Catherine it may well be on the Stokes, maternal side. Jay Childress

Hi!! Cagle cousins here is recent up date on the Cagle Reunion that was October 10, 1999 at Ozark, AR I did not go there was 1600 miles to travel. However I called. There #s was down by near 50 people. The reason a Cagle cousin died there in Ozark the 9th the day before. So the Reunion could not be enjoyed by all. I hope all of you have a good day. LaMona

Hi!! This is LaMona a Cagle on line I descend from old henry Cagle who died 1802 Moore County, NC don't feel bad about having an uncle by the name uncle Pink so did my husband his name was Charles Pickney and the called him uncle pink. I had rather be called uncle Pink than Sue. LaMona

For Mary Jane and List Mary Jane has Henry P Cagle living in Cumberland Co. TN in 1900 and dying there sometime after. It is my belief that he was in Whitley Co., KY at the time of the 1900 census. See as follows from the 1900 Whitley Co KY census 141 7 MA 127-130 Fox, James h 10-1878 21 m 6 T T T Coal Miner Laura w 3-1879 21 m6 Ill T T Joseph s 10-1895 4 K T IL Kagle, Have fil 1101827 72 w T NC NC The "fil" stands for father in law and it is his relation to the the head of household, James, and the w indicates that Henry's wife Catherine must have died between 1880 and 1900. Have (Henry P Cagle) is listed as being born in Tennessee and that his parents came form NC as we know Henry father was. He may have died in Cumberland Co but I feel this is a strong indication that Henry P was in Whitley Co KY for the 1900 census. James and Laura's child Mae, b c1915, is still living and she remembers her mother Laura M. Cagle who died Feb. 3 1926 at Westbourne TN. Mae's daughter, Rhonda is my cousin and she will post from time to time. The first person information has been invaluable. Also, I have the 1920 census for James and Laura and it gives Laura's name as Laura M. I have written for the 1910 census and will post both when they are here. . Jay Childress Njbalmer@aol.com wrote: > Hi Jay > > have you found a census for Henry P. Cagle for 1860 for Henry P. , he must > have been married 2nd time with the older children , Catherine was to young > to have these children and Henry P. and & Mary Priest Cagle only had one > child James. This is what I have. I will change my Stokes to Warner , looks > like it would be the correct one to me also, fits right in with the children. > by the way there are two Henry P's the other Henry P. is the son of > Littleton Young Cagle and Lucinda Catherine Ross. but he was not married to a > Mary?? Littleton and Henry P. would have been cousins. > > Descendants of Henry P. Cagle > > Generation No. 1 > > 1. Henry P.5 Cagle (Henry4, Jacob *3, Johan Dewalt "David" Kegel *2, > (Leonhart Kegell ) Leonard *1) was born 1824 in Tennessee. He married (1) > Unknown. He married (2) Mary Priest October 03, 1850 in Lawrence County, > Alabama. He married (3) Catherine Warner August 24, 1865 in Johnson County,. > > Notes for Henry P. Cagle: > 1850 Lawarence Co. AL > Cagle, Isaac R. 34 TN Baptist Clergyman /$100 p.407 > Amanda 27 " > Elizabeth 11 " In School > Martha 9 " " " > Henry 7 " > John 5 " > Matilda 3 " > Cagle, Henry P. 26 TN Laborer (brother of Isaac R.) > Mary 26 " > Dovy M. 24 " (sister of Isaac R. and Henry P.) > > 1860 (MY notes: must have been married to 2nd wife, Unknown, these other > children in census below, there is a gap of five years and and to old to be > Catherine's ) > > 1870 Scott, MO: Moreland Twp, St. Cloud P.O. > Kagle, Henry 39 TN Physician #160/160 > Catherine 25 " > Joseph 13 MO > Martha J. 11 " > Melvile (?) 10 " > John 9 IL > Sarah A. 2 " > Wm. P. 3/12 Mo > > Notes: Henry is believed to have been the son of Henry and Celia Cagle of > Warren County , TN. After Henry Sr. died in 1840s, Celia and family moved to > Lawrence Co., ALA. see 1850 Lawrence , AL 1880 Alexander Co., IL. > > 1880 Alexander , IL. : Precint #14 (E. Capr Girardeau) > Keggle, Henry P. 53 TN TN TN Farmer #106/106 > Catherine 37 " " " Keeping House > Sarah A. 12 IL TN TN At Home > William P. 10 Mo TN TN " " > Luverba E. 6 IL TN TN " " > Charles A. 3 " " " " " > Laura M. 2 " " " " " > > Note; Mary Cagle , 1st wife of Henry P. , in 1860 Lawrence Co. AL, with son > James . Henry and Mary were divorced. (son James living next to Henry P. and > family in the 1880 census, with his family. > (James 28 , was the son of Henry P. by his 1st wife . Henry P. Cagle, was the > son of Henry & Celia Cagle of Warren County, TN, and the brother of Ignatius > W. Cagle, 1812-1889, of Lawrence Co. Mo. and Isaac r. Cagle, of 1870 Johnson > Co., IL. . In 1850, these brothers lived in Morgan & Lawrence Counties, of > Alabama, moved to southern Illinois, then by 1870 was living in Scott > County, Missouri, directly across the river from Alexander Co., OL where he > had moved by 1880. (Late in life, Henry P. returned tothe state of his > birth, and in the 1900 census was living in Cumberland Co., TN. Henry P. died > in 1900 census, not long after census was taken > > Notes for Mary Priest: > 1860 Lawrence County, Alabama; > Heflin, L. S. 37 TN Carpenter > Elizabetn 82 NC > Caigle, Mary 28 AL (divorced wife of Henry P. Cagle ) > James 10 " (son of Henry P. Cagle ) > Priest, Edna 23 " > French, Sarah 18 " > " Ben 19 " > > Notes: Mary as divorced wife of Henry P. Cagle ; see Henry & Mary in 1850 > Lawrence Co. , in home of Isaac R. Cagle, who was Henry's brother. Henry was > in Scott Co., Mo in 1870; by 1880, James had joined Henry in Alexander Co, IL. > (James was actually 8 in 1860, rather than 10, may have been liste twice in > the 1860 census. A query in Ala Valley Leave, March 1969, by Mrs Irene > Morrison, Box 644, Yuba City, Ca, 05991, indicates that James birthdate 13 > Feb. 1852, was listed in census records with the family of Isaaac Priest of > Lawrence Co., AL. On records with the family of Isaac Priest of Lawrence Co, > AL. On Oct 3, 1850, Henry P. Cagle had been married to Mary Priest.) > > Children of Henry Cagle and Unknown are: > 2 i. Joseph6 Cagle, born 1857 in Missouri. > 3 ii. Martha J. Cagle, born 1859 in Missouri. > 4 iii. Melvile Cagle, born 1860 in Missouri. > 5 iv. John Cagle, born 1861 in Illinois. > > Child of Henry Cagle and Mary Priest is: > 6 i. James6 Cagle, born February 13, 1852. > > Children of Henry Cagle and Catherine Warner are: > 7 i. Sarah A.6 Cagle, born 1868. > 8 ii. William P. Cagle, born 1870. > 9 iii. Luverba E. Cagle, born 1874 in Alexander, Illinois. > 10 iv. Charles A. Cagle, born 1877 in Alexander, Illinois. > 11 v. Laura M. Cagle, born 1878 in Alexander, Illinois. > > group who was Celia Cagle's parents???

LaMona wrote: _____________________ New subject: Hi Cagle list. please explain the Tithable in the 1810-40 census I see the head of household being tithed for things. Does this mean Taxed. What things are considered Tithable. LaMona ______________________ LaMonna & List, In one of my favorite website folders, I have a genealogical dictionary. According to this source, below defines Tithable. As to what was taxed at one time slaves, crops, buildings etc. Tithable- Taxable; a person who owes tax to a specified jurisdiction. Earl

OOPS, sorry Shirley! :-) In a message dated 10/12/99 6:01:03 PM Central Daylight Time, Scg2331 writes: << I had an uncle named Pinkney (given name). We called him Uncle Pink. Shirley G. >>

In a message dated 10/12/1999 2:32:05 PM Central Daylight Time, SIBLING3@aol.com writes: << If you were a man with a middle name of Pinkney, >> I had an uncle named Pinkney (given name). We called him Uncle Pink. Shirley G.

New subject: Hi Cagle list. please explain the Tithable in the 1810-40 census I see the head of household being tithed for things. Does this mean Taxed. What things are considered Tithable. LaMona

We'll probably never know. If you were a man with a middle name of Pinkney, would you tell? :-) Laurie In a message dated 10/12/99 2:00:45 PM Central Daylight Time, Njbalmer@aol.com writes: << Hi group In Henry P's name , do you think the P. stands for Pinkney. ?? MilleyCagle Stokes, Henry's older sister named one of there children Pinkney. >>

Hi group In Henry P's name , do you think the P. stands for Pinkney. ?? MilleyCagle Stokes, Henry's older sister named one of there children Pinkney. Nancy jane

Hi List Can any of you cousins tell my why so many of my incoming messages end up in other that a "page form". i.e. Most messages look like a letter on a page, while a few come in where you need to scroll to the the right for what seems like the width of several normal pages in order to read them. Those messages in question may only be three lines long, but would perhaps be 12+ lines on a normal letter size lay out. Maybe some of you "computer heads" can tell me what can be done to avoid sending or receiving messages in this form. It is difficult if you want to make copies for a personal file. Thanks Jay Childress