Hello list, I would like to ask about the above name connection in AR. My grandmother was a GREEN born 1880 in Boone Co., AR. Her mother was a HILL and her grandmother was TABITHA ANN CAGLE. I am looking for a connection to why THOMAS GREEN would have left Alabama for AR and live there for about 7 years and I wonder if some of the CAGLE's were in AR doing 1870-188. I haven't found any GREEN family that I can tie them to so I thought I would look for the HILL or CAGLE connection. Now that I have rambled on, I hope I made sense to all on the list. Thanks, Mollie Charles Pawlik [email protected]

While in Southeast Missouri, my wife came across a "Application For License To Mary" for a Miss Martha Cagle age 15. She was to Mary a John H. Powel of Morehouse, Mo, age 21. By her being under the leagal age of consent (18) she needed parental consent. Her father is shown to be George Cagle, of Scott Co; Mo. This document was dated 10th. of July 1920. If anyone on our list is related to this family I would be happy to let you have this copy. Earl Cagle [email protected] "Join The Cagle List Today"

My grandmother was also a Hill so I've been doing a little research on her line. I know there were Hill's in Arkansas from this line. I'd be happy to share what little info I have and to connect you with a couple of others who might be able to help you. Contact me directly at [email protected] if you're interested. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "WALTER PAWLIK" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 4:02 PM Subject: [CAGLE] CAGLE/GREEN > Hello list, > > I would like to ask about the above name connection in AR. My grandmother was a GREEN born 1880 in Boone Co., AR. Her mother was a HILL and her grandmother was TABITHA ANN CAGLE. I am looking for a connection to why THOMAS GREEN would have left Alabama for AR and live there for about 7 years and I wonder if some of the CAGLE's were in AR doing 1870-188. > > I haven't found any GREEN family that I can tie them to so I thought I would look for the HILL or CAGLE connection. Now that I have rambled on, I hope I made sense to all on the list. > Thanks, > Mollie Charles Pawlik > [email protected] > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Thanks Earl for that information. You will have better luck from Genealogical Societies or Archives (State) or from a local Historian. If the folks will pass them on. I would like to see a list of all Genealogical Societies that all are aware of with emails or webs addresses but would have to be sure to list area. Bettye Vann Knight

Melva David Cagle posted your family on the 10 of Sept b in Tenn. If you did not catch it please send me an email. It was a list of census records from John G Cagle's Book The Cagle Census of the South. Bettye Vann Knight [email protected]

Back a couple of years ago my wife & I attempted to get a copy of her grandparents marriage license. My wife had been told they were married in Benton Co; Mo; and the date. We sent a letter to the County Clerk and got a reply back in about a week. The lady said there was no marriage record for them. So we thought that her info. on them may have been wrong as to the County they married in. We tried several other surrounding Counties, with no luck. My wife made a trip to Benton Co; Mo; and after a few minutes searching she found their marriage license. Someone had not even bothered to look. I understand that many counties are short staffed and don't have the time for lookups. All this person needed to do is be honest and say they didn't have the time for our lookup. So an answer to this that will at least help is the "Random Acts Of Genealogical Kindness" website : http://raogk.org/ My wife and I are volunteers for Pike Co; Mo. I encourage all of you to sign up for this great site. You are only charged for actual expenses such as copies, postage etc. We have helped people all over the United States, and one request from Canada. So take a few minutes of your time and visit this site. Also don't give up because the record you thought didn't exist, may be in a dusty vault. Earl Cagle [email protected] "Join The Cagle List Today"

Hi Cagle list here is a few reference notes for John "Dutchman" Cagle maybe this will help the new Cagle members. LaMona Will Source: 18 May 1798 written and filed in Moore County, NC, Will Book "A" page 199. Judging from the 1799 Will Of John Cagle, filed in Moore Co., NC, which names his wife Catharina and ten children, and from the known birthdates of these children, which range from the 1750s to the 1790s, it is evident that John must have been married twice. However, it remains unclear if the daughter of Dorotha Elizabeth Sides(Sitz) to whom he was married at the time of the 1770 Power of Attorney, was his first wife or his second wife. One possibility is that he first married a Miss Sides (Sitz)(given name unknown) in the 1750s, and that she was the mother of his older set of children and was still alive in 1770 at the time of the Power of Attorney; then, after her death, John was married to Catharina (surname unknown), who was the mother of his younger set of children, who were still minors at the time of his 1799 Will. A second possibility is that John was married first to Johanetta Hart in Pennsylvania in 1754, and soon migrated to North Carolina, where he began to appea! r in NC records in 1755, on the Tax List of old Orange Co., NC. After the birth of children Jacob, Elizabeth, George and Mary in the 1750s and 1760s, she died at an unknown date, after which John was married to Catharina "Caty" Sides, daughter of Dorotha Elizabeth Sides(Sitz). Catharina, if this theory is correct, was married to John by 1770, and was the mother of his six youngest children, Henry, Susanna, John, William, Dorety, and Margaret, the last five of which were still minors in 1799. It might be speculated that two of these children -- Henry and Dorety (Dorothy) -- were named after John Henry Sides and Dorotha Elisabeth Sides, parents of Catharina. Below is a chart illustrating this second possiblity. Any additional evidence which is found regarding these relationships will be published in the JOURNAL. Moore Co, NC 1799 , Will Book A, page 49 (199) John Cagle's Will In the name of God Amen. I, John Cagle of Moore county, being sound and perfect mind and memory blessed by god do this Eighteenth day of May in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and ninety Eight make and publish this my last will and testament in manner following that is to say - First I give and bequeath to Cathrine Cagle My beloved wife My Land and plantation my stock of Horses Cattle & Hoggs all the Household furniture, by her freely & quickly and peaceably to be possest till my sons come of age , John Cagle and William Cagle, John, my son John Cagle shall have one hundred and fifty acres of Land lying on the south side of Cabbin Creek and my son William Cagle shall have one hundred and twelve acres in the fork of Cabbin Creek and Bear Creek the plantation I am now living on . After his Coming of age my wife Cathrine Cagle shall have ten acres in what part she pleases of the said old plantation as long as she lives or remains my Widow and after wards it shal! l belong to my son William Cagle and he also shall have thirty Eight Acres of land lying by the meeting house by him free to be possessed and enjoyed Also my daughters Susanna Cagle, Dorety Cagle, and Margaret Cagle, shall have the Horses Cattle Hogs and all the household furniture shall be diveded among them three Equally after my wife Cathrine Cagle's deceased By them freely possed and enjoyed I also give to my beloved Children Jacob Cagle, & Elizabeth Gilmore & George Cagle & Mary Melton and Henry Cagle Everyone of them to have the sum of twenty shillings to be paid out of my Estate & I do here by utterly Disallow Revoke & disannul all and every other former testaments Wills & legacies Bequeathed and executors by me in any wise before this time named Will and bequeathed and executors by me in any wise before this time named Will and bequeathed ratifying & confirmed this and no other to be my last Will and testament in witness where of I have herunto set my hand and seal the day and year first above written I do hereby appoint his Bartholmew Dunn John X Cagle Seal George Cagle as executors Mark Will book A, Page50 signed Sealed published pronunced and declared Be this said John Cagle as his last will & testament in presence of us the Subscrbers that is to say- William Smith his Bartholomew X Dunn Moore County, May Term 1799 his Mark the above will was duly proved in open George X Cagle Court by the oaths of Bartholomew Dunn Mark and George Cagle and was ordered to be recorded A McBryde CC John Cagle's will as it appeared on pages 156-157 in Cagle Family in the South to 1850, Vol. 1, NC, by John G. Cagle, 1883. LaMona Phillips P. O. Box 426 Wasco, CA 93280

Stanly News and Press Sunday, September 14, 2003 Graves Relocated Huneycutt markers moved because of highway widening Some of the families of the late John Asbury Huneycutt and Sylvia (Silvy) Cagle Huneycutt were on hand recently to witness the relocation of their ancestors' graves. The graves had to be moved because of the widening of Highway 24/27 near Liberty Hill Church. John and Sylvia Huneycutt were buried in the yard of Cromer and Polly Burris when they died in the late 1870s. The Huneycutts had raised a large family in this area, nine boys and three girls. Most of the family remained in western Stanly and even today a very large number of the descendants still reside within a few miles of the homeplace. At one time, John purchased 100 acres between Red Cross and Stony Run Creek. Records show that he sold for $1 the land for the original Liberty Hill Primitive Baptist Church to be built on. Grave plots were set aside for John and Sylvia to be buried in the cemetery at the church, but until the state required that the graves be moved, they remained in the Burris yard. A fieldstone marker, engraved with the information on John, was the only proof that they were buried there. Information passed down through the generations verifed that John and Sylvia were both buried there. John was born May 19, 1803, and died Oct. 11, 1878. The search is ongoing to find the birth and death date of Sylvia. She was still alive at the time of her husband's death. Sylvia was the daughter of Charles Robert (Jan. 25, 1786- April 9, 1864) and Elizabeth Miranda Springer Cagle (Jan. 14, 1789 - Sept. 11, 1861) and granddaughter of George and Rebecca Cagle. Some of the descendants are having a tombstone erected using the fieldstone embedded into it with the information engraved so future generations can locate and identify their ancestors. A special fund has been set up to pay for the cost of the marker. Any descendant of John and Sylvia Huneycutt who would like to help with a donation may contact Ned Huneycutt, Anabel Speight or Joel Huneycutt at Locust Lumber Company. *** John and Sylvia's children were: George Washington, William Riley, Charles McKinley, Jack (John) Timothy, Fannie Caroline, Asbury Franklin, Ephiram E., Zebulon "Ebbin" M., Sylvia Symara, Mariah Priscilla, Levi Pressley and Eli Filmore. "Family heritage is so important in our lives. We all want to know where we came from and by preserving this bit of history, we are preserving for our future generations to have the information necessary to keep track of their family background," a spokesperson for the project said. ==== NCSTANLY Mailing List ==== Visit the Stanly Co. Genealogy page at www.eskimo.com/~lcsims

Hi everyone Charles and Susannah Cagle (Charles son of Jacob 1755, and Susannah daughter of George 1750. Children: 1.Elizabeth Cagle Moffett (none know of this line) 2,Margaret Cagle Russell (a few in this line) 3.Rebecca Cagle Carmack (quite a few from one family member) 4.Mary Elizabeth Jane "Eliza" Cagle Hill (none know of this line) 5.Littleton Young Cagle (a couple in this line) 6.David Benjamin Cagle (quite a few in this line) 7.Henry Edward Cagel (lot of family members in this line-this is my family line) Love NancyJane

Hi Everyone Charles Cagle February 11, 1780 NC to November 04, 1843 TN and Susannah Cagle 1781 NC to 1851 Warren County, TN. Children: Elizabeth Cagle Moffett, Margaret Cagle Russell, Rebecca Cagle Carmack, Mary Elizabeth Jane "Eliza" Cagle Hill, Littleton Young Cagle, David Benjamin Cagle, Henry Edward Cagle. (the one's in the bold have family members who have Hemochromatosis. David Benjamin & Henry Edward Cagle have the most family members with this. There is also one other Cagle family group that has this in it but we do not have this one connected as of yet. Just thought I would right to tell you two more of my family with the gene for Hemochromatosis. One more daughter and my grand daughter have it. This makes every one of my 4 daughters have this and only 6 out of 11 of my grandchildren have been tested and 2 have it so far. HEREDITARY HEMOCHROMATOSIS Hereditary Hemochromatosis,[HH] is a genetic condition of iron overload affecting approximately 1 out of 200-300 people, with 1 in 8-10 people being carriers. It is 100% fatal if not diagnosed early & treated aggressively, yet with early diagnosis & treatment, one can expect a normal life span. Disclaimer: I am NOT a physician. I am a registered nurse, and a wife and a mother, with a special interest in HH, due to the fact that my family has been diagnosed with it. Therefore; while I have spent many hours researching information on HH, please realize that the advice & links presented here should be discussed with your family physician! I applaud the many doctors who are willing to maintain an open & communicative relationship with their patients, in order to develop the best healthcare plan possible! Cindy Munn RN In this table you will find many of the organs/systems that may be affected by Hereditary Hemochromatosis, as well as the symptoms or problems that may be associated with HH. These are resources, urls, articles, etc. which I have located in my research on HH. I have attempted to somewhat "categorize" them & place them under their corresponding symptoms/problems in this table. If you click on these sections, [they should be highlighted in orange] it will take you to resources that I have found which are related to that particular topic.If anyone finds any missing links, or knows of a resource which I might want to add to my list, please let me know! HEART Chest pain, shortness of breath, fatigue, arrythmias [irregular heartbeats] rapid pulse, cardiomegaly, congestive heart failure [CHF] heart attack < 50 yrs. old LIVER Cirrhosis, [even if you are not a drinker!] liver cancer, hepatoma, elevated liver enzymes, liver failure, abdominal pain or tenderness, especially in the right side. ENDOCRINE specific to the PANCREAS Cancer of the pancreas, insulin resistance, diabetes, "bronze diabetes" ENDOCRINE specific to the REPRODUCTIVE SYSTEM Hypogonadism, decreased libido, impotence, irregular menses, early menopause, infertility, sterility ENDOCRINE specific to THYROID &/or PITUITARY Hypothyroidism, always feeling cold, hair loss or early graying, fatigue Psychological disorders, depression, confusion, memory loss JOINTS Arthritis & pain in the joints, often seen in the knees, hips & the first 2 fingers, joint replacements, CPPD, psuedogout, RA IMMUNE SYSTEM Frequent infections, flus, colds, weakened immune system. Info. on the Vibrio vulnificus virus found in seafood which can be deadly to those with HH. SKIN Rusty or gray tone to the skin, golden tan color, rashes or skin changes, hair loss, porphyria cutanea tarda [PCT] In addition to all of the above, it may even be [mis]diagnosed as: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome [CFS] Fibromyalgia [FM] Lupus, Leukemia Rheumatoid Arthritis[RA] DepressionClick here to read more about HH associated with fatigue, weakness, muscle pain, depression. What does iron do to the BRAIN? Alzheimers or Parkinson's, strokes, seizures Click on the individual box to see more information pertaining to these topics as associated with iron overload or HH. Are the eyes & ears affected? Other HH groups, organizations Basic stats & information Other metals, copper, etc. Blood bank information Phlebotomies, guidelines, supplies Children & HH Radiology, CT scans, MRI's, etc. CME, Medical resources, hospitals Searches on hemochromatosis Dietary considerations, alcohol Secondary iron overload DNA testing labs, HFE articles Thallassemia, Iron loading Anemia Hepatitis & Iron, NASH To screen or not? The pros & cons Lab tests, meanings, etc. TV, Magazine, Newspapers, Books Other cancers

Melva do you know where Issac Robert married? If so the County records might have some information. Where was he in 1900? In what ever county he married his parent might have resided there. I would read that entire census. and see who lived next door etc. You have to do that on microfilm at Libraries. I would contact any County Historical Societies of the area. I would write a probate judge of the area and ask if there where any Historians of the county they were aware of. and ask them to give your letter of inquiry to them and include a self addressed envelope stamped.I would check military records. Genfourm.com has lots of area Message boards with folk searching. Just suggestions. Bettye V Knight

Thank you Betty Lee for posting the marriages at your disposal. I would think this is what the list should primarily be. Sharing of documentation information as well as quires. Bettye Vann Knight [email protected]

Thought some one on the list might find some info here. Warren County Tennessee Marriage Records 1852-1900 Annie Cagle to H.J. Earls Rites 2-26-1893 By J.J. Meadows, JP B.S. Cagle to Mary C. Smartt Rites 4-12-1882 By W.J. Haden, M.G. Benjamine Cagle to Lucinda Smith Rites 12-31-1860 By G.P. Moffitt, J.P. Bettie Cagle to Thomas J. Scruggs Rites 8-11-1875 By J.P. Hill, J.P. C.T. Cagle to Nannie Rogers Rites 12-31-1891 By J.J. Meadows, J.P. E.J. Cagle (bride) to Asa Hill Rites 8-15-1860 By J.L. Brown, M.G. Elard Cagle to Nancy Smith Issued 8-31-1867 License not returned Emdine Cagle to Jarvis D. Knight Rites 6-27-1852 By Thomas Brown, J.P. H.M. Cagle to Laura Low Issued 8-17-1860 License not returned Iarley(?) Cagle to Franky Taylor ( Frances F.) Issued 4-18-1859 License not returned Isaac Cagle to Laura Curtis Issued 4-16-1888 License not returned Jacob Cagle to Arringee J. Brown Rites 12-22-1859 By J.L. Brown, M.G. John D. Cagle to Martha Taylor Rites 9-9-1863 By J.L. Brown, M.G. Leonard Cagle to Martha Stepp Rites 10-10-1886 By N.B. Brown, M.G. M.A. Cagle to William Scruggs Rites 12-20-1883 By N.B. Brown, M.G. Maggie Cagle To J.J. McCormack Rites 10-7-1895 By W.M. Milstead, M.G. Martha A. Cagle to James C. Hill Issued 8-23-1873 License not returned Mary Cagle to Francis Sutton Issued 3-18-1873 License not returned P.A. Cagle to Sarah Nunnelley Rites 11-5-1871 By J.M. Castleman, J.P. Polly Ann Cagle to William Smith Rites 4-1-1859 By J.L. Brown, M.G. Preston A. Cagle to Sousanah Haynes Rites 12-21-1856 By Clemma Sullivan,M.G. Russel Cagle to Laura Williams Rites 9-13-1878 By J.P. Hill, J.P. Stirling Cagle to Nannie Stokes Rites 9-24-1899 By A.L. Comer, M.G. Thomas Cagle to Kansas Breshears Rites 12-17-1891 By G.P. Moffitt, M.G. Thomas J. Cagle To Rebecca Hill Issued 8-2-1867 License not returned. Hope this will help some one else out there. Betty Lee

Thanks, Angie and Doyle. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [CAGLE] Re: Leonard Kegell the Immigrant This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cagle Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0JH.2ACEB/669.2 Message Board Post: John, You can try this website that Doyle Chambers has "http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/7886/". He has alot of Cagle information on it, and the sources also. I have used it alot to find information on. Any questions, you can email me at [email protected] Thanks, Angie ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cagle Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/0JH.2ACEB/669.2 Message Board Post: John, You can try this website that Doyle Chambers has "http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/7886/". He has alot of Cagle information on it, and the sources also. I have used it alot to find information on. Any questions, you can email me at [email protected] Thanks, Angie

Both lived to a ripe old age - all I can figure out is both wives had these names in their family and wanted to use them. There was however, 30 plus years between the 2 sons. And you're right, it is uncommon. ssm ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Speight" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 7:59 PM Subject: RE: [CAGLE] theories > Not uncommon for a 2nd child to bear name of older child provide the > older child of the same name was deceased. > > -----Original Message----- > From: william chumney [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 3:06 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CAGLE] theories > > > > > > I may have missed it but, as yet, I have seen no proof that Robert Cagle > Jr, who married Anna Gullory, is the son of Robert Cagle Sr, the son of > Leonard Cagle. Lee and several others still list this relation in their > files, while all my investigation indicates he is not his son. > > Part of my proof is as follows: > > From the Decatur County Tn Chancery Court Enrolling Docket, Vol. 1 pp > 98-99 The Bill of Complaint of Roger Gibson a Resident of Henderson > County, Tennessee against Paul Cagle, a resident of the State of > Mississippi and Robert Cagle Jr a resident of the State of Arkansas. > > Respectfully shows that on the first day of April 1856, there was > granted by the State of Tennessee to Robert Cagle Senior 110 acres of > land lying and being in Decatur County by Grant No 15380, in Range 8 and > Section 1. > > Beginning at a Stake with a Spanish oak pointer 60 Poles West of the S. > E. Corner of an Entry for 200 acres in the name of John S. Taylor, Runs > South 132 Poles to a doubled bodied white walnut, mulberry and maple. > Thence East 134 Poles to a Stake. Thence North 132 Poles to a white > walnut, Thence West to the Beginning. > > Complainant further shows that after said Land was so Granted the said > Robert Cagle Senior died, leaving the Defendants Paul Cagle, Robert > Cagle Junior, David Cagle, H. C. Cagle and Elizabeth Cagle, who has > intermarried with Porter Gibson, his only Children and Heirs at Law. > > Complainant further shows that after the death of the said Robert Cagle > Sr, the said David Cagle and the said Elizabeth and her Husband, Porter > Gibson sold and conveyed their Respective interests ad shares in the > said 110 acres of Land to the said H. C. Cagle and afterwards the said > H. C. Cagle sold and conveyed all his interest and share in said Land to > Complainant and thereby Complainant has become the owner and is entitled > to three-fifths of said tract of Land. > > Complainant further shows that it would be manifestly to the advantage > and interest of the parties interested in said land to have the same > sold for Partition and that the same is so situated & is of such nature > that it cannot be portioned without manifest injury to the parties > interested without a sale thereof. > > Please note that the complaint states the five listed are Robert Cagle > Sr's only children and Heirs at Law. The Robert Cagle Jr listed was born > about 1805 in Moore County NC., died in 1875 Richwoods TW Izard County > Ark. > > I know that we have found that our Cagle ancestors did some odd things > but I have not found where any named two of their sons the same name. > Sure would have been entertaining if they had. > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Prepare to be entertained - Joseph Jacob Cagle of Hall County Ga had son William James Thomas Monroe by his first wife and son William Thomas by his second wife. One was "Roe" and the other was "Bill" , but both were William and both were Thomas. SSM ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 3:24 PM Subject: Re: [CAGLE] theories > In a message dated 9/11/03 2:06:51 PM Central Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > I know that we have found that our Cagle ancestors did some odd things > > but I have not found where any named two of their sons the same name. > > Sure would have been entertaining if they had. > > > > > > One has to be very careful about names that are shown as "Sr." and "Jr." My > father was John B. Kent, III and I am John B. Kent, IV, but I have > consistently called myself John B. Kent, Jr. since I was a young child. I have a nephew > who is John B. Kent, V. The first John B. Kent in my line was born about 1812 > in Ga., but he has cousins also named John B. Kent. So...confusion can really > cause problems when there are a bunch of people living in the same time > period who might have the same name and who might choose to use the "Sr." and > "Jr." names to identify themselves from parents. > > Jno > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Not uncommon for a 2nd child to bear name of older child provide the older child of the same name was deceased. -----Original Message----- From: william chumney [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 3:06 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CAGLE] theories I may have missed it but, as yet, I have seen no proof that Robert Cagle Jr, who married Anna Gullory, is the son of Robert Cagle Sr, the son of Leonard Cagle. Lee and several others still list this relation in their files, while all my investigation indicates he is not his son. Part of my proof is as follows: From the Decatur County Tn Chancery Court Enrolling Docket, Vol. 1 pp 98-99 The Bill of Complaint of Roger Gibson a Resident of Henderson County, Tennessee against Paul Cagle, a resident of the State of Mississippi and Robert Cagle Jr a resident of the State of Arkansas. Respectfully shows that on the first day of April 1856, there was granted by the State of Tennessee to Robert Cagle Senior 110 acres of land lying and being in Decatur County by Grant No 15380, in Range 8 and Section 1. Beginning at a Stake with a Spanish oak pointer 60 Poles West of the S. E. Corner of an Entry for 200 acres in the name of John S. Taylor, Runs South 132 Poles to a doubled bodied white walnut, mulberry and maple. Thence East 134 Poles to a Stake. Thence North 132 Poles to a white walnut, Thence West to the Beginning. Complainant further shows that after said Land was so Granted the said Robert Cagle Senior died, leaving the Defendants Paul Cagle, Robert Cagle Junior, David Cagle, H. C. Cagle and Elizabeth Cagle, who has intermarried with Porter Gibson, his only Children and Heirs at Law. Complainant further shows that after the death of the said Robert Cagle Sr, the said David Cagle and the said Elizabeth and her Husband, Porter Gibson sold and conveyed their Respective interests ad shares in the said 110 acres of Land to the said H. C. Cagle and afterwards the said H. C. Cagle sold and conveyed all his interest and share in said Land to Complainant and thereby Complainant has become the owner and is entitled to three-fifths of said tract of Land. Complainant further shows that it would be manifestly to the advantage and interest of the parties interested in said land to have the same sold for Partition and that the same is so situated & is of such nature that it cannot be portioned without manifest injury to the parties interested without a sale thereof. Please note that the complaint states the five listed are Robert Cagle Sr's only children and Heirs at Law. The Robert Cagle Jr listed was born about 1805 in Moore County NC., died in 1875 Richwoods TW Izard County Ark. I know that we have found that our Cagle ancestors did some odd things but I have not found where any named two of their sons the same name. Sure would have been entertaining if they had. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

My husband and his younger brother are both named Thomas. Mom really liked the name, I guess! ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Speight" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 4:59 PM Subject: RE: [CAGLE] theories > Not uncommon for a 2nd child to bear name of older child provide the > older child of the same name was deceased. > > -----Original Message----- > From: william chumney [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 3:06 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CAGLE] theories > > > > > > I may have missed it but, as yet, I have seen no proof that Robert Cagle > Jr, who married Anna Gullory, is the son of Robert Cagle Sr, the son of > Leonard Cagle. Lee and several others still list this relation in their > files, while all my investigation indicates he is not his son. > > Part of my proof is as follows: > > From the Decatur County Tn Chancery Court Enrolling Docket, Vol. 1 pp > 98-99 The Bill of Complaint of Roger Gibson a Resident of Henderson > County, Tennessee against Paul Cagle, a resident of the State of > Mississippi and Robert Cagle Jr a resident of the State of Arkansas. > > Respectfully shows that on the first day of April 1856, there was > granted by the State of Tennessee to Robert Cagle Senior 110 acres of > land lying and being in Decatur County by Grant No 15380, in Range 8 and > Section 1. > > Beginning at a Stake with a Spanish oak pointer 60 Poles West of the S. > E. Corner of an Entry for 200 acres in the name of John S. Taylor, Runs > South 132 Poles to a doubled bodied white walnut, mulberry and maple. > Thence East 134 Poles to a Stake. Thence North 132 Poles to a white > walnut, Thence West to the Beginning. > > Complainant further shows that after said Land was so Granted the said > Robert Cagle Senior died, leaving the Defendants Paul Cagle, Robert > Cagle Junior, David Cagle, H. C. Cagle and Elizabeth Cagle, who has > intermarried with Porter Gibson, his only Children and Heirs at Law. > > Complainant further shows that after the death of the said Robert Cagle > Sr, the said David Cagle and the said Elizabeth and her Husband, Porter > Gibson sold and conveyed their Respective interests ad shares in the > said 110 acres of Land to the said H. C. Cagle and afterwards the said > H. C. Cagle sold and conveyed all his interest and share in said Land to > Complainant and thereby Complainant has become the owner and is entitled > to three-fifths of said tract of Land. > > Complainant further shows that it would be manifestly to the advantage > and interest of the parties interested in said land to have the same > sold for Partition and that the same is so situated & is of such nature > that it cannot be portioned without manifest injury to the parties > interested without a sale thereof. > > Please note that the complaint states the five listed are Robert Cagle > Sr's only children and Heirs at Law. The Robert Cagle Jr listed was born > about 1805 in Moore County NC., died in 1875 Richwoods TW Izard County > Ark. > > I know that we have found that our Cagle ancestors did some odd things > but I have not found where any named two of their sons the same name. > Sure would have been entertaining if they had. > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

In a message dated 9/11/03 2:06:51 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > I know that we have found that our Cagle ancestors did some odd things > but I have not found where any named two of their sons the same name. > Sure would have been entertaining if they had. > > One has to be very careful about names that are shown as "Sr." and "Jr." My father was John B. Kent, III and I am John B. Kent, IV, but I have consistently called myself John B. Kent, Jr. since I was a young child. I have a nephew who is John B. Kent, V. The first John B. Kent in my line was born about 1812 in Ga., but he has cousins also named John B. Kent. So...confusion can really cause problems when there are a bunch of people living in the same time period who might have the same name and who might choose to use the "Sr." and "Jr." names to identify themselves from parents. Jno