This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GW.2ADE/995.1 Message Board Post: I found a John P Flowers born July 30, 1964 in Madera County, Ca Mothers maiden name was Simmons. You can look for more info at this site below and maybe the brothers are also on there. This site lists Ca births from 1905-the late 90's. http://www.vitalsearch-ca.com/gen/ca/_vitals/cabiygen.htm Also I am in Madera Co and I will look and see if he is in the phonebook, Tracy