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    1. Minerva (Minnie) Smith 1857 to1912
    2. chuck murray
    3. Minerva (Minnie) (Gilbert) Smith married James Smith of Georgetown and lived the rest of her life in Georgetown. If any one has information on her or her mother would appreciate hearing from you. I would especially like to hear from her granddaughter Sonny Faye who twenty years ago was living 4 miles south of Georgetown. Have tried to contact Mrs. Faye but her address or phone seems to be changed or maybe she no longer lives there. We both share the same GGGrandfather William Riley Gilbert. I have a lot of new information for her. Thanks for any help, Chuck Murray "chuckmury@hotmail.com" >From: CAELDORA-D-request@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: CAELDORA-L@rootsweb.com >To: CAELDORA-D@rootsweb.com >Subject: CAELDORA-D Digest V99 #63 >Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 10:16:51 -0700 (PDT) > ><< message2.txt >> ><< message4.txt >> ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

    10/06/1999 01:53:51
    1. [CAELDORA] HARRIS, TERRY, GOODPASTURE of Greenwood twp.,CA
    2. Dan Boyle
    3. Hello, I'm new to the list and researching information concerning William and Phebe Baldwin HARRIS of Greenwood twp. Some of their children married TERRY, and GOODPASTURE and lived in Greenwood as well. I find them on the 1860, 1870, 1880 census living in Greenwood. Any information would help. Willing to share information. Dorothy

    10/05/1999 11:02:04
    1. [CAELDORA] [Fwd: {not a subscriber} Blaine]
    2. Edward A. Black, Sr.
    3. Forwarded for BetteMaier@cs.com BetteMaier@cs.com wrote: > Am looking for any information about Wm. H. Blaine and his son James Blaine > in El Dorado County 1850 census. Wm. was murdered according to family legend, > but James stayed in Calif. and started a business. A letter in the Bible > from James says that he "has six Chinamen working for him." Don't know what > kind of business. > <BetteMaier@cs.com> --

    10/03/1999 10:50:55
    1. [CAELDORA] Looking for my father and family
    2. Christ's Earthen Vessels Ministries Inc.
    3. Father William Austin Born in Indiana 1927 or 1928. I can get no info from Vital Records because I do not have Birth date Parents names or anything else. This was all that was on my Birth Certificate. Here is all the info I have. My name is Rev. Dennis Keith Austin I am 44 years old my fathers name is William Austin he would be around his early 70's he has a daughter name Twila she would be around 51 to 53 and a son around my age. He had Curly Auburn hair he lived in and around Monterey Park, California. He worked at a gas station. This info is 44 years old. My mothers name is Barbara Ballenger. He was not married at the time he and my mother had a relationship and when she got pregnant he left. My mother saw him again a year after I was born and he was married and had a little baby with him. If you could be of some help it would be a Blessing. Please contact me one way or the other. I would love to meet my Family Thank you and have a Blessed weekend. In His Grace, Rev. Dennis Austin 7577 Margate Court #104 Manassas, Virginia 20109 1-800-650-3238 Toll Free cevm@erols.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

    09/25/1999 12:15:47
    1. [CAELDORA] Fw: Ancestry California Databases
    2. Norby Family
    3. >This notice from the Ancestry Daily News, 13 September 1999 > >======================================================= >The month of September marks 149 years of statehood for the state of >California, and in honor of this milestone, Ancestry is making its >California databases that are normally available to members only, free to >all visitors this week (until Monday, September 20). To see the entire >list of California databases, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/dailynews/california.htm

    09/13/1999 10:58:01
    1. [CAELDORA] BALCH FAMILY
    2. I am new to this list and am hoping to find some descendants of Harvey Girdine Balch b. abt 1843 NC d. abt 1909/11 (where I don't know) who married Margaret Jane Faubion abt 1866 in Cocke co. Tennessee. I just found out that one of their sons, H. Earl Balch born abt 1877 Cocke Co. TN who married Blanche Bunch lived in Rescue, California in June 1949. As far as I know they had at least one daughter, Juanita but have no other information on this family. I just searched the online county records and found a Harvey Michael Balch who married Mayhew Debra Leonard 14 Oct 1995 & Nina Ann Balch married Jeffrey Paul Gilly 18 Oct 1998. Does anyone know these Balch's who might live in El Dorado County? I am hoping they are my cousins. There also was another son, Ralph O. Balch b. abt 1881 but I have no other information on him. Thank you for any help. Carolyn Whitaker http://members.aol.com/atsissie3/page/index.htm BALCH/FAUBION/WELLS page

    09/10/1999 12:21:07
    1. [CAELDORA] New County list in California...
    2. Edward A. Black, Sr. [& Ruth M. Black]
    3. I am letting people know that a new County List for Genealogical Discussion & research has been started in California from among the lists created in July: CAALPINE [Alpine County]. I expect that as a rural county it may not be as active as some of the others in California, but I believe in time it can be very helpful. Subcribing is by sending an e-mail message with the word "subscribe" as the only word in the body of a message with no subject to: (mail mode): "caxxxxxx-l-request@rootsweb.com" (digest mode): "caxxxxxx-d-request@rootsweb.com" Posting queries is by subscribers is to: "caxxxxxx-l@rootsweb.com" where "caxxxxxx" is the list name ["caalpine"] I would like to announce the startup of this new list so that people with an interest in genealogy in Alpine County can be made aware of it. I hope that you can include a reference to it in th Alpine County GenWeb site. Thanks again. Sincerily, Edward, Sr. --

    09/05/1999 09:30:32
    1. [CAELDORA] City Directory Lookup-1900
    2. Hello, My Grandmother Edith Mote SMITH and her family moved from Lafayette, IN Tippencanoe Co. Sometime after 1899. She was approximately 8 yrs. old at the time. Her father's name was Marcellus L. SMITH and her mother Rosa B. They moved to Placerville, CA. She went to school there and later went to Santa Cruz High School. I know nothing about their life in Placerville. She later went on to become a Consert Singer and I have a few newspaper clippings that says she sang by invitation in Placerville. I would appreciate a city directory lookup for the year of 1900. Would like to know what her father did for a living. Are there anyother search areas in Placerville for this time frame? Thank you Jean Hehn http://pages.prodigy.net/jhubb22/page39.htm

    09/04/1999 12:36:44
    1. [CAELDORA] New SSDI feature at Rootsweb
    2. Norby Family
    3. If you missed the following from the Rootsweb newsletter I think you might find it interesting. It should be a great tool for everyone if we all post notes giving more identification on the listings that we know are ours - might make some new connections and help others eliminate some names in their searches. Just did a couple of mine and another link is provided once you post a post-em that you can view any posted. POST-EMs. Now you can attach a message to any of the more than 61 million records in the Social Security Death Index (SSDI) at RootsWeb by using a "post-em," developed by RootsWeb's own Randy Winch. Some suggested uses: attach notes to the records of your relatives, providing researchers with a direct link to you; add background information on an individual in the database, such as pointers to other records relating to that individual; or add a correction to an incorrect record. Check the records of individuals of interest to you often. Someone recently might have left a note there for you. To add a note to a record, do a search and click on "Post-em" at the end of a record at: <http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi>. Post-ems are a another example of your contributions at work.

    09/03/1999 11:03:08
    1. [CAELDORA] Gold Rush
    2. Kesel
    3. Hi, a man named William Madison Palmer, born 1822 in Buncombe Co NC was cousin to my James Monroe Palmer, born 1823 in Buncombe Co. NC. They both came west for the gold rush and William stayed in El Dorado Co. and James went to Sonoma Co. I am hunting for any family that may still live in the area. I have lots to share and would love meeting some new cousins.

    09/03/1999 09:23:22
    1. [CAELDORA] Placerville Uppertown Cemetery
    2. Bonnie F. Swansbrough
    3. I was in Placerville today looking for a Swansborough grave that I know *was* in Uppertown Cemetery, but could not find the graveyard. A church was moved in 1965 from the area we thought the cemetery was... Can anyone help. I have one day left of vacation to try and find it. We did find Swansboro Country after much u-turning... <g> Thanks in advance. Bonnie Swansbrough bonniefd@earthlink.net

    09/01/1999 10:28:58
    1. [CAELDORA] ANCESTOR GRAVESITE PROJECT
    2. Norby Family
    3. Recently had an email message about a new website. Looks promising so I thought I would share. New site, Ancestory Gravesite Project, consists of gravesite photos that have been submitted from researchers all over the world. This site is for anyone in any country who is interested in contributing to the project. Includes a search engine. http://www.piedmontsoftware.com/graves/ and a link at the bottom - Leave Your Epitaph On The Message Board which leads to a new screen with a text box and the title Messages from the Grave http://www.piedmontsoftware.com/graves/comments.asp

    09/01/1999 03:35:30
    1. [CAELDORA] Clarification - Costs for WWI draft card copies from NARA - Southwest Region
    2. Norby Family
    3. In July, 1997 NARA established an updated fee schedule for services provided to the public. The minimum mail-order fee for photocopies for each WWI Draft card was increased from $6.00 to $10.00, a fee which includes both sides of the card. Patrons need not request that both sides of the card be copied, and patrons need not submit a self-addressed stamped envelope (SASE) with their request. Walk-in customers can make self-service photocopies of the original records for $0.10 per side. Please contact individual regions for their policies regarding microfilm copies. These fees are copying fees only; there is no charge for searches when a record is not located. **At a minimum, the following information is required from the requestor for NARA staff to conduct a search for draft registration cards: o Full name of registrant o Complete home address at the time of registration (to include county) o Name of nearest relative Additional information, if known, which can improve the thoroughness of a search includes: o Birth date o Birthplace o Occupation of registrant NARA, Southeast Region, has provided a request form for these records for a number of years. The forms can be ordered via e-mail (archives@atlanta.gov), telephone (404-763-7383), or in writing (NARA, Southeast Region, 1557 St. Joseph Avenue, East Point, GA 30344). JAMES J. MCSWEENEY, Regional Administrator National Archives and Records Administration, Southeast Region

    08/26/1999 07:18:51
    1. [CAELDORA] SSDI on Rootsweb Now
    2. Norby Family
    3. NEWS AND NOTES AT ROOTSWEB ROOTSWEB ADDS JUNE 1999 SOCIAL SECURITY DEATH INDEX (SSDI). Now you can access the most recent version of the SSDI at RootsWeb <http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi>. Accessible fields include first and last names, date of birth, month and year of death, last residence, last benefit, Social Security Number, and the state where it was issued. You can narrow a search to a particular state, country, city or zip code, or to a particular date of birth or death, by using the Advanced Search Feature. When you find a record of interest, you can automatically generate a printer ready letter to the Social Security Administration requesting a photocopy of the actual application for a Social Security Number (Form SS-5-Social Security Number Record Third Party Request for Photocopy).

    08/20/1999 08:53:17
    1. [CAELDORA] Draft Cards Prior to WWI
    2. Norby Family
    3. >Forwarded From Another List: >M. Dean Hunt >Louisville, KY > > Good Morning everyone: I played hooky from work yesterday and spent the >day at the NARA Branch in Atlanta and it jogged my memory to pass on >some information to everyone. > > Prior to the US's entry into WW1 (approx. 1917-1918) every male between >the age of 18 and 40 was required to register for the draft. The >information found on the card was provided by the individual himself. >The registration cards vary in information depending on the individual >draft board. But by and large the cards include: The full name of the >person (this means first, full middle name, any additional middle names >and last name); the current address of the man; his age; his birthdate >(some include his place of birth); whether he is a US citizen or a >naturalized citizen (some ask if his father was a naturalized citizen >and his father's race); his race; his occupation; where he is employed >(name of employer); address or location of employment; name and address >of his next of kin; some cards ask if the man is married or single and >how many people he supports. The card is signed by the draftee. On the >back of the card his physical description is > noted: Height is broken down by short, medium, tall although some cards >give the > actual height in feet and inches; Build by slim, medium, stout although >some cards list actual weight along with the build; color of eyes and >hair; any deformities or injuries are listed (such as one arm missing, >blind in one eye, etc); the name and address of the draft board and the >date. > > When these original cards were transferred to the East Pointe NARA >branch the LDS spent about 3 years microfilming these cards. There are >hundreds and hundreds of boxes and the LDS opened one box at a time and >filmed them - in state order. However, within each state the cards were >filed by draft board, not by county or by draftee. This makes the >searching of the microfilm difficult to say the least. > >The good news is that the Friends of the National Archives took each box >after it was filmed (and checked) and sorted all of these thousands and >thousands of cards into - state and then COUNTY order and then in >alphabetical order by surname and put then in new boxes. The Friends >deserveall the kudos we can give them for this monstrous task. > > So ... rather than spending hours and hours searching the LDS microfilm >you can order copies of the original cards from NARA. if you know the >county your ancestor lived in between 1917-1918. > > And BTW - Ancestry.com lists WW1 Draft cards in their searchable data >bases, however I know for a fact that there are 22 cards for the surname >WHITE found in McIntosh Co, OK and Ancestry only gave me 4 of them so >don't depend on that site. I was told yesterday that some reps from >Ancestry had visited the archives a couple of weeks ago to talk about >filming the cards, took one look at the hundreds and hundreds of boxes >and simply left. > >For copies: Send a letter requesting copy(s) to: > NARA > Southeast Region > 1557 St. Joseph Ave > East Point, GA 30344 > >In your letter be sure to say you want copy(s) of the WWI Draft >application Cards. Include the name of your ancestor and his race, the >state and the county. If you want copies of ALL of the cards with a >given surname, ask them the cost of the copies and send a SASE for them >to let you know the copying cost. In your letter be sure and say you want >a copy of the FRONT and BACK of the card. Be sure to send a SASE for the >return of your copies. > > The cost for the copy is 50 cents - 25 cents for the back and 25 cents >for the front. If you only want one copy send a buck and say the >difference is to be given to the Friends of the Archives, because after >all they did all this wonderful hard work for you <VBG> >

    08/19/1999 11:41:43
    1. [CAELDORA] Guide to Tracing Family Trees Update
    2. Norby Family
    3. RootsWebÂ’s Guide to Tracing Family Trees (http://www.rootsweb.com/~rwguide/) currently has 9 lessons available. They deal with different subjects, including: -- Getting started -- Death records -- Marriage records -- Birth records -- Effective queries -- Spelling (or perhaps misspelling is better) Each of the lessons is just a couple of pages long, however, and in addition to the subject itself, they include: -- Links to useful sites on RootsWeb -- Links to useful sites on the Internet -- A list of useful books on the subject

    08/18/1999 11:24:12
    1. [CAELDORA] Archived messages
    2. Norby Family
    3. Did you know that you can search the archives of this mailing list for previous messages you might have missed? http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl When prompted for the list name type in the name - as an example, Kern county mailing list would be : CAKERN-L or a surname list such as WELTON-L At the next prompt, type in the surname or whatever else you might want to find that might have been discussed previously

    08/15/1999 11:32:47
    1. [CAELDORA-L] GILBERT,WHITLEY,SMITH 1850's
    2. chuck murray
    3. Does anyone have any information on a Whitley family who came to Sonora area about 1851. There was two sisters, one of which married William Riley Gilbert and had two childdren born in Sonora. Arbella born in 1853 who married and moved back east and Minerva who married Jim Smith of Georgetown. She died in Georgetown in 1912. She is buried next to her husband Jim Smith and 1/2 brother Granville J Gilbert who died in 1909. I have been working on William Riley Gilbert since about 1958. Most of the early information came from comments made by my mother Beulah Minerva (Osborne) Murray, my grandmother Lotta May (Gilbert) Osborne and a interview with my great uncle William Elmer Gilbert in 1962. Also Mrs Sunny Faye of Georgetown in 1979 and her sister Mrs. Bell in Fresno in 1980. William R. Gilbert was born in Tenn. on 7-16-1816. The census of Clark township, Johnson Co. Ark. of 1850 shows W. R. Gilbert, his wife Mary C, four sons, James W Gilbert born 4-24-1837, Granville J Gilbert born 3-13-1839, Robert M Gilbert born 5-2-1840 all three in Tenn.. The fourth son Licurgus Gilbert was born 7-4-1847 in Ark.. According to an interview with William E. Gilbert, (grandson of William R. Gilbert taken in 1962), William R. Gilbert ran a store in Snellings and later in Sonora. He gave out too much credit staking miners and went broke. William R. Gilbert moved to the area around Chinese Camp, married one of the Whitley sisters. That his first wife (who he thought was a Woodside), lived around Oakdale. William R. Gilbert had two daughters by the Whitley sister. Arbella born 1-10-1857 and Minerva born 1-16-1857 probably in Sonora. Arbella married and went back east. Minerva married Jim Smith of Georgetown. She died in 1912 in Georgetown and is buried there along side her husband and 1/2 brother Granville Gilbert who died in 1909. William R. Gilbert married two more times and one of his later sons is my great grandfather Jefferson Davis Gilbert born at Crimea House in 1861. I have many pictures, quite a few stories and facts that I would be happy to share with other cousins. Hope this is of interest to someone, Chuck Murray "chuckmury@hotmail.com" _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com

    08/09/1999 03:19:42
    1. [CAELDORA-L] Missing Links and Rootsweb Review Postings
    2. Norby Family
    3. For those interested in the what's happening at rootsweb.com and other news that's genealogy related, you can subscribe easily to the following newsletters, MISSING LINKS AND ROOTSWEB REVIEW by following the directions at the bottom of this message. I've been sharing what I thought was of interest from these two newsletters. I was asked to consolidate my messages by someone (too many duplicate posts) on more than one of the county lists. But, since I've only shared a small amount of info from these newsletters, and I don't know what is really of interest to everyone, I'd like to suggest that if you found the postings useful and would like to read more, please subscribe yourself to the weekly mailing. Here's how: TO SUBSCRIBE OR UNSUBSCRIBE from MISSING LINKS and ROOTSWEB REVIEW, send e-mail that says only SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE) in the message area to: <Rootsweb-Review-L-request@rootsweb.com>

    08/08/1999 10:09:30
    1. [CAELDORA-L] GenSeeker
    2. Norby Family
    3. ROOTSWEB INTRODUCES GENSEEKER, a new search engine that accesses almost all sites at RootsWeb and many genealogical sites elsewhere on the Web. These searches are more than three times faster than they were before we upgraded the CPU and disk subsystem. Access GenSeeker at <http://seeker.rootsweb.com/>. The amount of material accessed by GenSeeker is huge and will grow quickly as this search engine indexes an ever-increasing number of Web sites. Try GenSeeker often to find new items of interest. GenSeeker is a good example of your contributions at work to make free genealogical data accessible on the Web.

    08/06/1999 09:01:02