I forgot to give you my contact info <g> I hope you have a good day I am Jim Rader 916-366-6833 my web site is www.rader.org email me at jim@rader.org My Bio (as of Aug 2005 I am available most evenings and most days except Thursday and Friday) Jim Rader specializes in the Rader "one-name-study", collecting all people with that surname or a variation on it. Self Published "First attempt to collect all of the Rader/Roder/Rotter families in America" 1992 and "Second attempt to collect all of the Rader/Roder/Rotter families in America" 1995. That That book is now a Legacy data Base with over 80,000 individuals. Active in Genealogy on Prodigy before the WWW in 1993. Owner and Host of www.rader.org Genealogy web site since January 1997 Teacher of Computers and Genealogy at Folsom Cordova Adult Education for the past 6 years Lecturer on Internet and Genealogy at local Genealogy groups and LDS seminars for many more years. Classes for fall are on my web at http://www.rader.org/classes/my_classes.htm