The question about the name the parents of the deceased was first required to be asked as of 1906 - however many Clerk's continued to use old forms for many more years, and of course some Clerk's never bothered to ask the question of the informant - the informant may not have known the details anyway (such as Doctor's). I can tell you from first hand knowledge when my grandfather died in 1967 my aunt filled out the death registration at the funeral home in west end Toronto. The Friday night before his funeral, I, as a ten year old kid having just gotten the genealogy bug, asked to see Grandpa's Death Registration form from the funeral director. He showed it to me, and the spaces for the father and mother's names and places of birth had lines drawn through them. I said to him words to the effect that "Oh, I can tell you grandpa's parent's names and places of birth." The response was, "Oh well, I filled in the form, and that's ok sonny". Somewhat put off by his treating me so indifferently, I asked my Aunt about her not recording her grandparent's name's etc. [and may I add here that my aunt is, shall I say "diplomatically challenged"]. Her response was |"What the hell do you mean that I did not record the names! The stupid so and so undertaker never asked me those questions!!!! Where is the stupid bugger...." So, my Aunt found the Funeral Director and they had an involved one sided "chat". Thank God no other families were in the funeral home that evening! His response to my aunt was, "Oh, those details do not matter, and as a policy we at this funeral home never ask those questions." Needless to say that a new death registration form was then completely filled out for my grandfather! So, this was a rather long story but it does show the mind set of some people in the funeral profession some 60 years after the regulations had first been put in place! In memory of my maternal grandfather - William George Long - born 1894 Hackney, London, England, died 1967 Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Year of immigration to Canada still unknown, and possibly can only be answered with details contained in the still not released 1911 census. Cheers! Brian J. Brian Gilchrist, 1969 - 2004: 35 Years research experience at The Archives of Ontario. Genealogical and Archival research analyst, Box 74503, 270 The Kingsway, ETOBICOKE, Ontario M9A 5E2 [email protected] "I have the reputation of being fearless and decided, and whether correct or not, it saves me much trouble." - written by the Honourable and Right Reverend John Strachan, 1st Anglican Bishop of Toronto in 1846. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan B Currie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 2004 Feb 18 11:49 PM Subject: [ONT-Cemeteries] RE: Obtaining death certificates > Hi Betty, > > By this time in my genealogy studies, I should have obtained some > certificates from Ontario--but I haven't. > > If you go to the Ontario government site at > http://www.cbs.gov.on.ca/mcbs/english/4UMPCQ.htm you will know as much as I > do. > > Their descriptions of entitlement to documents seem rather vague. In BC, > death certificates are on microfilm and are available to anyone 20 years > after death. Ontario may not be that liberal (small L) and some provinces > actually demand that you give them information that you wouldn't be asking > for if you had it! > > So I'll pass the buck to some knowledgeable person on the list who has gone > through the process with Ontario. > > For future use, I would like to know when or if Ontario death certificates > (or birth/marriage) first identified the origins and parents of the subject > persons. Perhaps the same knowledgeable person can inform us about this. > > Regards, > > Al Currie > Across the way in Surrey, BC > > -----Original Message----- > From: Betty Nelson [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 2004-Feb-18 17:56 > To: Allan B Currie; [email protected] > Subject: Obtaining death certificates > > Once one has the cemetery information, how does one go about obtaining a > death certificate? And is it necessary to prove a relationship to the > deceased? Thanks for any information and help. > I'm a new member of this list. > Cheers! > Betty (Delta, BC) > > > > From there, I would try to obtain death certificates which could provide > > names of parents. Death certificates often include names of death > informants > > who would likely be spouses or younger family members. > > > > > > > ==== CA-ONT-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > Website that goes with this mailing list. > http://ca-on-cemeteries.tripod.com/ > A list of people who will do lookups can be found on the webpage > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >