I am looking for an obit and any information on the following: John J. Richardson b.8/1/1865 in urban Ontario. d. 7/7/1909 wife Catharine Richardson (nee: Burns) b. 11/29/1864 in Montreal. d. ?1922 (said to have passed away in Detroit). Catharine was said to be a registered nurse/mid-wife. Both are said to be burried at Prospect Cemetery in Toronto, but I have no proof of that. One of their sons and his wife are said to be burried with them: William and Gladys Richardson John J. Richardson is said to be the son of: John J. Richardson and Julia Laddell (Leddell, Ladell, Ledell etc.). Any help? Elizabeth Place Beaton

I have seen death registration that are blank except for a date of death and the registration signature. It could also be that the informant did not understand the questions the registrar was asking them. Heather in Orillia "As soon as you are born you have history" Check http://www.rootsweb.com/~onvsr/ for Birth, Marriage & Death registrations. -----Original Message----- From: Sharon J Cadieux [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 9:47 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ONT-Cemeteries] Vital Statistics for Ontario Good morning Jane - Excellent explanation of the system, but I would like to add that 1907 as the first year for parents' names on death certificates cannot be considered as a certainty. Actually I think I might have seen them on some slightly earlier, but I KNOW they are sometimes not on forms much later. I suppose it depended on whether the local registrar was using the most current forms, or older ones, but often I have seen the place for parents names simply left blank. A few years ago I thought I was going to get the names of a greatgreat grandmother's parents from the death registration for her twin sister who died in 1913. When the film came in, imagine my disappointment when the names were not on it! It could also be that the informant registering the death didn't know, but I also believe that some local registrars simply didn't bother about that particular piece of information - when you see several registrations together, from the same registrar, without the parents names that is the most logical conclusion. I have in front of me a death registration I copied at the local FHC Tuesday of this week - it is for a death in 1917 and the names of the parents were not included. My files contain 3,500 copies of birth, marriage and death registrations - 850 are deaths. Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Watt" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 9:28 AM Subject: [ONT-Cemeteries] Vital Statistics for Ontario > Just for everyones information I'll give a short bit on what is available > for Ontario. Births 1869-1906, Marriages 1869-1921 and Deaths 1869-1931, if > I remember correctly, 1907 is the first year they ask for a persons parents > names and birthplaces on the death registration. There are indexes to the > above vital statistics, you find the person you are looking for, make note > of the registration number and year in which the event was registered, then > go to another book to find out what reel number that particular registration > is on. All registration films are available through your local library on > inter library loan, in Canada. Elsewhere the films can be ordered in to your > local Family History Library (LDS). Any dates after the above have to be > ordered, check the Ontario Archives site http://www.archives.gov.on.ca on > how to do that. Every year another year is released, so this year we will > get births for 1907, deaths for 1932 and marriages for 1922. I hope I have > explained this so everyone can understand. > Jane in Cooksville (Mississauga) Ontario, Canada > ----- Original Message ----- ==== CA-ONT-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== Website that goes with this mailing list http://ca-on-cemeteries.tripod.com/ Do you have a list of cemeteries that you have transcripts? Contact [email protected] ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Good morning Jane - Excellent explanation of the system, but I would like to add that 1907 as the first year for parents' names on death certificates cannot be considered as a certainty. Actually I think I might have seen them on some slightly earlier, but I KNOW they are sometimes not on forms much later. I suppose it depended on whether the local registrar was using the most current forms, or older ones, but often I have seen the place for parents names simply left blank. A few years ago I thought I was going to get the names of a greatgreat grandmother's parents from the death registration for her twin sister who died in 1913. When the film came in, imagine my disappointment when the names were not on it! It could also be that the informant registering the death didn't know, but I also believe that some local registrars simply didn't bother about that particular piece of information - when you see several registrations together, from the same registrar, without the parents names that is the most logical conclusion. I have in front of me a death registration I copied at the local FHC Tuesday of this week - it is for a death in 1917 and the names of the parents were not included. My files contain 3,500 copies of birth, marriage and death registrations - 850 are deaths. Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Watt" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 9:28 AM Subject: [ONT-Cemeteries] Vital Statistics for Ontario > Just for everyones information I'll give a short bit on what is available > for Ontario. Births 1869-1906, Marriages 1869-1921 and Deaths 1869-1931, if > I remember correctly, 1907 is the first year they ask for a persons parents > names and birthplaces on the death registration. There are indexes to the > above vital statistics, you find the person you are looking for, make note > of the registration number and year in which the event was registered, then > go to another book to find out what reel number that particular registration > is on. All registration films are available through your local library on > inter library loan, in Canada. Elsewhere the films can be ordered in to your > local Family History Library (LDS). Any dates after the above have to be > ordered, check the Ontario Archives site http://www.archives.gov.on.ca on > how to do that. Every year another year is released, so this year we will > get births for 1907, deaths for 1932 and marriages for 1922. I hope I have > explained this so everyone can understand. > Jane in Cooksville (Mississauga) Ontario, Canada > ----- Original Message -----

Just for everyones information I'll give a short bit on what is available for Ontario. Births 1869-1906, Marriages 1869-1921 and Deaths 1869-1931, if I remember correctly, 1907 is the first year they ask for a persons parents names and birthplaces on the death registration. There are indexes to the above vital statistics, you find the person you are looking for, make note of the registration number and year in which the event was registered, then go to another book to find out what reel number that particular registration is on. All registration films are available through your local library on inter library loan, in Canada. Elsewhere the films can be ordered in to your local Family History Library (LDS). Any dates after the above have to be ordered, check the Ontario Archives site http://www.archives.gov.on.ca on how to do that. Every year another year is released, so this year we will get births for 1907, deaths for 1932 and marriages for 1922. I hope I have explained this so everyone can understand. Jane in Cooksville (Mississauga) Ontario, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: Allan B Currie <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 11:49 PM Subject: [ONT-Cemeteries] RE: Obtaining death certificates > Hi Betty, > > By this time in my genealogy studies, I should have obtained some > certificates from Ontario--but I haven't. > > If you go to the Ontario government site at > http://www.cbs.gov.on.ca/mcbs/english/4UMPCQ.htm you will know as much as I > do. > > Their descriptions of entitlement to documents seem rather vague. In BC, > death certificates are on microfilm and are available to anyone 20 years > after death. Ontario may not be that liberal (small L) and some provinces > actually demand that you give them information that you wouldn't be asking > for if you had it! > > So I'll pass the buck to some knowledgeable person on the list who has gone > through the process with Ontario. > > For future use, I would like to know when or if Ontario death certificates > (or birth/marriage) first identified the origins and parents of the subject > persons. Perhaps the same knowledgeable person can inform us about this. > > Regards, > > Al Currie > Across the way in Surrey, BC > > -----Original Message----- > From: Betty Nelson [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 2004-Feb-18 17:56 > To: Allan B Currie; [email protected] > Subject: Obtaining death certificates > > Once one has the cemetery information, how does one go about obtaining a > death certificate? And is it necessary to prove a relationship to the > deceased? Thanks for any information and help. > I'm a new member of this list. > Cheers! > Betty (Delta, BC) > > > > From there, I would try to obtain death certificates which could provide > > names of parents. Death certificates often include names of death > informants > > who would likely be spouses or younger family members. > > > > > > > ==== CA-ONT-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > Website that goes with this mailing list. > http://ca-on-cemeteries.tripod.com/ > A list of people who will do lookups can be found on the webpage > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

At Bill Martin's site http://my.tbaytel.net/bmartin/index2.htm, you will find very helpful information and instructions on obtaining copies of BMD registrations. Have a look around his site - great info. There are microfilms with early death registrations 1869-1931 that can be borrowed through Inter Library Loan from the Archives of Ontario site http://www.archives.gov.on.ca/english/index.html. Click on Genealogy Research and follow the links. Some local Family History Centres have the index films which would cut out one step in the process. I hope this helps, ...Pat Living in the Past Lane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan B Currie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 9:49 PM Subject: [ONT-Cemeteries] RE: Obtaining death certificates > Hi Betty, > > By this time in my genealogy studies, I should have obtained some > certificates from Ontario--but I haven't. > > If you go to the Ontario government site at > http://www.cbs.gov.on.ca/mcbs/english/4UMPCQ.htm you will know as much as I > do. > > > >

In my one & only foray into obtaining a death certificate in Ontario, I recall the following. Cost- approx $25.00 Information- date of death,-place of death, if female, maiden name- father's name. There are 2 forms of certificates. The "short" one is easily obtained. The "long" form, which provides details of the cause of death can only be obtained if permission is given by the closest living next-of-kin. In my case, I was it so I just certified that as fact.Took about 3 weeks to arrive. All details should be on the website. Regards Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan B Currie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 11:49 PM Subject: [ONT-Cemeteries] RE: Obtaining death certificates > Hi Betty, > > By this time in my genealogy studies, I should have obtained some > certificates from Ontario--but I haven't. > > If you go to the Ontario government site at > http://www.cbs.gov.on.ca/mcbs/english/4UMPCQ.htm you will know as much as I > do. > > Their descriptions of entitlement to documents seem rather vague. In BC, > death certificates are on microfilm and are available to anyone 20 years > after death. Ontario may not be that liberal (small L) and some provinces > actually demand that you give them information that you wouldn't be asking > for if you had it! > > So I'll pass the buck to some knowledgeable person on the list who has gone > through the process with Ontario. > > For future use, I would like to know when or if Ontario death certificates > (or birth/marriage) first identified the origins and parents of the subject > persons. Perhaps the same knowledgeable person can inform us about this. > > Regards, > > Al Currie > Across the way in Surrey, BC > > -----Original Message----- > From: Betty Nelson [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 2004-Feb-18 17:56 > To: Allan B Currie; [email protected] > Subject: Obtaining death certificates > > Once one has the cemetery information, how does one go about obtaining a > death certificate? And is it necessary to prove a relationship to the > deceased? Thanks for any information and help. > I'm a new member of this list. > Cheers! > Betty (Delta, BC) > > > > From there, I would try to obtain death certificates which could provide > > names of parents. Death certificates often include names of death > informants > > who would likely be spouses or younger family members. > > > > > > > ==== CA-ONT-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > Website that goes with this mailing list. > http://ca-on-cemeteries.tripod.com/ > A list of people who will do lookups can be found on the webpage > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Ontario is definitely not as liberal as BC with respect to issuing copies pf death certificates. A few years ago I applied to get my gr. grandmother's death certificate. At the ripe old age of 50 I had to get a note from my 75 year old father to obtain the certificate for a lady who died in her 80's about 55 years ago. The first time I ever had to get a note from my father!! Cheers! Pat --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.588 / Virus Database: 372 - Release Date: 2/13/2004

Hi Lorie - thanks for the offer. I am looking for protestant DAWSON in Maidstone. Specifically John Wilson d. abt 1910 Evelyn (Deslippe) d. July 15, 1974 Lura Belle (McIelwain) d. 1950's? Ralph Forest d. May 30, 1983 Arthur d. Mar 23, 1951 Mildred d. July 5, 1979 Thanks Chris in Edmonton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorie Begin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 5:12 PM Subject: [ONT-Cemeteries] Essex County Cemeteries > Hi Everyone: > > Just to let you know.............I have all the printed cemetery records for Essex County, that have been published up to this date. There are a few in Windsor, which are not yet published, but these are mostly the newer ones. > > I am willing to do lookups, but need to know whether Protestant or Catholic, and need an approximate place. Pls. be as specific as possible. Also pls don't ask for e.g. " All the Smiths". Don't have time for that. > > Lorie > > > > ==== CA-ONT-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > Website that goes with this mailing list. > http://ca-on-cemeteries.tripod.com/ > Would you like to be a part of it? > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Looking for information on John and Eva McCarthy buried in Our Lady of Mount Carmel Cemetery Flamborough west. Thanks C _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca

Hello, I am hoping SKS on this list may have the Bronte, Village Trafalgar, Halton Cemetery Transcriptions. I have found the following on the OCFA and would so greatly appreciate the following look-ups. Thank-you Lori RIBBLE Anthony Bronte, Village Halton Trafalgar HP-TR1 RIBBLE Charles C. Bronte, Village Halton Trafalgar HP-TR1 RIBBLE Elizabeth Bronte, Village Halton Trafalgar HP-TR1 RIBBLE John Bronte, Village Halton Trafalgar HP-TR1 RIBBLE Nancy Ann Bronte, Village Halton Trafalgar HP-TR1 RIBBLE William Bronte, Village Halton Trafalgar HP-TR1 RIBBLE Wm. Bronte, Village Halton Trafalgar HP-TR1 SMITH Elizabeth Bronte, Village Halton Trafalgar HP-TR1 SMITH J. C. (?) Bronte, Village Halton Trafalgar HP-TR1

Hi Kim, Yes your Gowland family is buried in Brampton Cemetery, Chinguacousy Township, Cemetery No. 16, Brampton, Peel County. They read as follows: 1192 - Thomas GOWLAND d. June 6th in his 78th year Sarah Ann SHORT b.w.o. Thomas GOWLAND d. Dec 26 1918 aged 63 years William McCURDY April 20 1890 - Oct 3 1961 n.w. Jessie GOWLAND March 16 1888 - Aug 30 1974 1206 - George ROBINSON d. Feb 4 1920 aged 75 years h.w. Elizabeth HUNTER d. May 7 1924 aged 75 years Henry ROBINSON d. Aug 17 1962 aged 76 years h.w. Adeline GOWLAND d. Dec 22 1961 aged 80 years George Hunter ROBINSON d. April 15 1894 aged 23 yrs 6 mos Lavina BELLAS w.o.t.a. & Jas SANDERSON d. May 4th 1902 aged 38 yrs 3 mos Louisa ROBINSON d. Jan 20 1899 aged 17 years 1250 - James GOWLAND Dec 11 1853 - Oct 18 1933 h.w. Hannah WESTLAKE July 3 1860 - Aug 15 1948 Albert Miller SMITH June 14 1879 - Sept 19 1941 h.w. Sarah Jane GOWLAND Oct 15 1881 - Nov 15 1934 1374 - William J. GOWLAND 1883 - 1941 h.w. Sarah E. 1883 - 1973 1809 - James Blanchard DIXON March 11 1850 - Feb 12 1936 h.b.w. Fanny GOWLAND Feb 26 1852 - May 22 1927 Fanny Louisa DIXON March 28 1878 - April 5 1962 2280 - Thomas Arthur GOWLAND Sept 14 1879 - Nov 8 1957 h.b.w. Catherine Christina CAMERON July 10 1882 - Dec 13 1956 2292 - Herbert GOWLAND Aug 27 1896 - Dec 11 1948 b.h.o. Alma M. COWTON 2494 - Mary Elizabeth GOWLAND Feb 11 1885 - Feb 12 1958 b.w.o. Robert Francis ARMSTRONG Aug 29 1878 - Jan 17 1962 2579 - Gladys E. WILLIAMSON April 20 1897 - July 13 1961 b.w.o. Thomas Frederick GOWLAND May 10 1890 - (blank) 2847 - Emerson St. Clair SWITZER Dec 16 1899 - May 20 1964 b.h.o. Clara Grace GOWLAND July 27 1899 - (blank) Hope this helps, Adeline Hi list, I am looking for cemetery transcriptions or tombstone pictures (anything!) of my gr-gr-grandparents, who are buried in the Brampton Cemetery. They are: Thomas Gowland b. Oct. 23, 1845 d. June 6, 1923 and his wife, Sarah Ann Gowland (nee Short) b. Aug. 14, 1856 d. Dec.26, 1918 A look-up a while back showed there were GOWLANDs buried in the Brampton Cemetery, Lot 6, Blk A&C, Plan BR13, Conc IE, Chinguacousy Township. And I believe this may be Thomas and Sarah. I do have Thomas' obituary from the Brampton Conservator, but would like to find Sarah's as well. I appreciate the help anyone can provide. With thanks, Kim --------------------------------- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals

Jen & Peter wrote: >Could some kind soul please look up >Charles Henry MORGAN >wife Mary Etta nee HUGHES >they are listed in OCFA in Dresden cemetery. >Also if there are any children on nearby stone? One known child Bertha Pearl > There is a C.H. Morgan too #1947 MORGAN / C. H. MORGAN / died Feb. 1, 1916 aged 65 years / his wife Mary. E. MORGAN / died July 7, 1925 aged 60 years Rhoda MORGAN / died Feb. 29, 1936 #1946 MORGAN / Virgil / 1916 -1963 Wilfred / 1918 - 1923 #4611 MORGAN / Charles H. / 1923 - 1968 Donna I. 1931 - blank #4612 MORGAN / husband / Thomas V. / MORGAN 1883 - 1952 / wife / Lois McNEILAGE / 1907 - 1966 / At rest >(Below also in OCFA) >James Bressett and wife Ida Jane nee Hughes > #1108 In memory of / Father / James BRESSETT 1853 - 1899 #1109 In memory of / Mother / Ida BRESSETT 1868 - 1951 >Thomas Bressett and wife Ella nee Hughes >children? > > #3976 BRESSETT / Thomas / Nov. 18, 1864 - June 8, 1911 / Ella May / Oct. 1 1871 - May 12, 1942 Gone but not forgotten [No children ] -- Bob === Robert Neil Chatham-Kent, ON [email protected]

Hello I was wondering if anyone possibly had the transcriptions for the following person. I am trying to find what became of the woman who was married to a cousin of my Mother's. He was killed during WW1 and she remarried. Dean, Luella Hillcrest, Tara Cemetery Bruce County, Arran Twp. BG- Thank you for any help. Carol Lylyk Calgary

If possible could I please have the MI from these. Surname Given Name Cemetery County Township Reference EWART Alexander Everton Wellington Eramosa WW-4294 EWART Ellen Everton Wellington Eramosa WW-4294 your time is greatly appreciated, thank you, Sandra

Dear Listers I am hoping that you will be able to help me with my query as I have, in the past, written to the Cemeteries Division at London City Hall, Ontario but have received no reply. I am trying to trace the burial place of my great, great grandmother who died in London, Ontario on 10 March 1875. Her name was Charlotte Elizabeth BAILEY, wife of Solomon BAILEY from England. I believe that she may have been buried in the Wesleyan Methodist's Cemetery, which was known as Salter's Grove. A fellow genealogist in Ontario made a visit to the local Family History Society for me and found out that the cemetery no longer exists - it was destroyed to make way for a parking lot! According to the information in the record book there were "no burial records found" for Salter's Grove. However, the historian on duty said that, by law, City Hall has to make a note of all the persons buried in the cemetery before the graveyard is demolished. I wonder whether anyone would know if a list of people buried in Salter's Grove exists. Of course, she may have been buried elsewhere and for this reason I would be grateful if you could tell me of any other likely Methodist cemeteries in and around London, Ontario. I would be grateful for any help or advice, no matter how small. Many thanks. Fay Bennett Cambridge, England

Hi Muriel, This Charlotte "Lottie" Edna POST is the daughter of George Ridley POST and Sarah Agnes ROLLINS. If she is of any interest to you I may be able to add a bit of info. ...Pat Living in the Past Lane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon J Cadieux" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 6:49 AM Subject: Re: [ONT-Cemeteries] Obituary for Charlotte/Lottie Brown Post. > > Belleville Mausoleum > Charlotte "Lottie" Edna Post, 1892-1971; wife of William J. Tuffs > >

Could some kind soul please look up Charles Henry MORGAN wife Mary Etta nee HUGHES they are listed in OCFA in Dresden cemetery. Also if there are any children on nearby stone? One known child Bertha Pearl. Also looking for (in same cemetery) (Below also in OCFA) James Bressett and wife Ida Jane nee Hughes Thomas Bressett and wife Ella nee Hughes children?

Hi Al, It looks like this Charlotte/Lottie Brown Post is not my Charlotte. I'm quite sure she was born in 1878/9 in England. I also goofed a bit when I named her brothers. One was Richard Wm. or Wm. Richard Brown, have seen it both ways, and the other brother was Walter Archibald Brown. I had a "Senior Moment" when I wrote the names of them. Thanks for your help. Muriel

Hello List, Does anyone have the transcriptions for St. Joseph's R. C. in Guelph? I would appreciate a look up for the following person. SWEENEY Margaret St Joseph's Roman Catholic, Guelph Wellington Guelph WW-4321 Thank you. Carol Lee Always searching for in Canada, Ireland, North Dakota,Minnesota A' H E A R N \ O ' H E A R N \ C O N L I N \ D U N N E \ F E R G U S O N \ S W E E N E Y Always searching for in Chicago, IL, Germany; G I E R Z \ A L M \ B O E R N E R \ S T A H L \ H E L D T \ F E I S T N E R --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.592 / Virus Database: 375 - Release Date: 2/18/04

Dear List Members: To say that I am upset over the lack of being able to access the website would be an understatement. I am really sorry, for all the people who went to the website expecting to view it; only to see the message "Temporarily Unavailable The Tripod page you are trying to reach has exceeded its bandwith limit. It will be available again in a few hours. " I am not pleased with Tripod actions. z:-^( < very big frown) As soon as possible this site will be transfered to a much friendly server. { oh, the good news is, we now have 409 members with 7 of them not a valid e-mail address. Please make sure your e-mail address is correct.} Sheila